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Re: Low fat vs low carb [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #15262357 12/02/24 10:03 PM
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Low fat is a myth, you need all the good fats you can get. I eat a load of good fat everyday, I weigh 206. All my blood work came back perfect and T levels are high. Read Genius Foods. It explains it better than I can. I eat 6 eggs a day and smother them in olive oil, eat at least one avacado a day if not two, and take fish oil.

I disagree on calories too, calories are stored energy, I eat probably 4,000 to 5000 calories a day but in a 6 hour window. Fasting between noon and 6 am. I do a 3 day fast every three months. as long as they are good calories and you do some form of excersize, you are good.

Most people make this way too complicated. Eat the way nature intended. Stay away from processed foods. Eat healthy, drink in moderation, drink lots of water. Its not really that hard. Fad diets will make you lose weight but it won't stay off.

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I agree. And everyone is different and yet the same.

I routinely eat grease. I eat eggs and sausage every morning. For dinner, say, I cook ground beef. I use the 70/30 stuff. Once fried I add it to whole kernel corn with a some onions. The grease and all gets poured into the corn. Simmered a bit and served like that. Tonight is chicken thigh, skin on. I'll simmer it with a can of tomatoes. 1/8 cup white rice. It's a quick 30minute meal.

Dessert is a big fat Fugi apple and peanut butter. I'll eat 1/3rd a small jar with the fruit. I go through peanut butter quick. I'm the guy buying the biggest jar the store sells. I do treat myself. Ill add 4 chocolate covered malted milk balls to the dessert bowl.

And I myself never go past 2000 calories a day. That's my personal limit. I can't do take out anymore. Besides tasting synthetic. It'll make me sick.

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Re: Low fat vs low carb [Re: Der Vorsteher] #15262438 12/02/24 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Der Vorsteher
Low fat is a myth, you need all the good fats you can get. I eat a load of good fat everyday, I weigh 206. All my blood work came back perfect and T levels are high. Read Genius Foods. It explains it better than I can. I eat 6 eggs a day and smother them in olive oil, eat at least one avacado a day if not two, and take fish oil.

I disagree on calories too, calories are stored energy, I eat probably 4,000 to 5000 calories a day but in a 6 hour window. Fasting between noon and 6 am. I do a 3 day fast every three months. as long as they are good calories and you do some form of excersize, you are good.

Most people make this way too complicated. Eat the way nature intended. Stay away from processed foods. Eat healthy, drink in moderation, drink lots of water. Its not really that hard. Fad diets will make you lose weight but it won't stay off.


4-5k daily? What exercise and frequency? You are fortunate to apparently have a very high metabolism. I’m 6’3” 228, athletic and do 4x cardio weekly for a 600cal daily burn plus free weights twice a week. On average, I eat about 1700 net cal (anything I want) daily to currently maintain a 500 cal deficit - my maintenance is 2200. Today, for example: McD Sausage Biscuit (patty and bottom only) for breakfast; DQ extra crispy fries for lunch; apple snack; and Whataburger Spicy Chicken Sandwich (no sauce) after the gym; and 1/2 a healthy fiber bar about an hour before bed. Occasionally, a tablespoon of Jif…

Re: Low fat vs low carb [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #15262468 12/03/24 12:35 AM
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I say low calories...low carbs and you fix it all together. When your body needs fuel pre or post workout..fuel it up.


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Re: Low fat vs low carb [Re: wsimpson] #15262480 12/03/24 01:04 AM
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Low fat is a myth, you need all the good fats you can get. I eat a load of good fat everyday, I weigh 206. All my blood work came back perfect and T levels are high. Read Genius Foods. It explains it better than I can. I eat 6 eggs a day and smother them in olive oil, eat at least one avacado a day if not two, and take fish oil.

I disagree on calories too, calories are stored energy, I eat probably 4,000 to 5000 calories a day but in a 6 hour window. Fasting between noon and 6 am. I do a 3 day fast every three months. as long as they are good calories and you do some form of excersize, you are good.

Most people make this way too complicated. Eat the way nature intended. Stay away from processed foods. Eat healthy, drink in moderation, drink lots of water. Its not really that hard. Fad diets will make you lose weight but it won't stay off.


4-5k daily? What exercise and frequency? You are fortunate to apparently have a very high metabolism. I’m 6’3” 228, athletic and do 4x cardio weekly for a 600cal daily burn plus free weights twice a week. On average, I eat about 1700 net cal (anything I want) daily to currently maintain a 500 cal deficit - my maintenance is 2200. Today, for example: McD Sausage Biscuit (patty and bottom only) for breakfast; DQ extra crispy fries for lunch; apple snack; and Whataburger Spicy Chicken Sandwich (no sauce) after the gym; and 1/2 a healthy fiber bar about an hour before bed. Occasionally, a tablespoon of Jif…


I lift 4 days a week and walk on Fridays. Ice bath twice a week. I'm not a big believer in "metabolism" per se.


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Re: Low fat vs low carb [Re: Mark Perry] #15262513 12/03/24 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Perry
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I've totally stalled and reached my limit of low carbing. Going to a low fat diet for a change. Sure is a different mindset.



If you get a chance maybe ask your PCP if they can recommend a nutritionlist. Some insurance policies pay for it much like a yearly physical etc.

Your health is way too important to trust to bro science. Respectfully some incorrect information has been shared on tbis thread. No two bodies are the same. It's not always a one size fits all approach.



A calorie is not just a calorie. A nutritionist can work off your personal health history and get you on the right track.


100% but I would suggest a dietitian rather than a nutritionist. Most PCP's will refer to a dietitian rather than a Nutritionist. The difference in the State of Texas is licensure. 3rd party insurance will not pay for a nutritionist BUT there are some billing codes a dietitian can get reimbursed for. Anyone can get an online certificate and call themselves a 'Nutritionist'. Dietitians have the educational pedigree and state license to back it up. Science vs. marketing and lack of substance.


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Re: Low fat vs low carb [Re: 1oldbassguy] #15305853 01/18/25 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 1oldbassguy
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Originally Posted by Bigbob_FTW
I've totally stalled and reached my limit of low carbing. Going to a low fat diet for a change. Sure is a different mindset.



If you get a chance maybe ask your PCP if they can recommend a nutritionlist. Some insurance policies pay for it much like a yearly physical etc.

Your health is way too important to trust to bro science. Respectfully some incorrect information has been shared on tbis thread. No two bodies are the same. It's not always a one size fits all approach.



A calorie is not just a calorie. A nutritionist can work off your personal health history and get you on the right track.


true statement for sure . Go get a DEXA scan and find out where your fat is and what total % it is . If it's visceral fat ( around your organs ) --- you should do everything possible to lose it quickly . Best way to be healthy is for your organs to be functioning at a high level . I removed all sugars from my diet January 2024 , also , no fast starches ( pasta , rice , breads , cooked potatoes ) lost 13% of my total weight without even trying . The results are amazing to how I feel --- and I don't miss the sugars ( that took about 30 days )


THIS
Working for a large company for many years I watched a lot of fat men and women on every kind of the fad diets you have ever ever heard of. Pretty much every one of them gained the weight back when they got off the diet if the year.

The only one that works is the one you stay on as a lifestyle change.

QUIT eating sugar and white processed food as Mark said . It is poison

Eat all the fruit, veggies and meat as you want. Quit eating the wrong sheet


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Not much action on this site but I have started eating a very high protein diet at least on weekdays.

mornings - protein shake (39 grams), greek yogurt parfait with banana's and strawberries (28 or so), protein bar (15)
Lunch - pretty much BBQ plate or sandwich
Evenings - protein shake before workout and after workout with another parfait

Down from low 240's to 226-228

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Originally Posted by Marion Morrison
Not much action on this site but I have started eating a very high protein diet at least on weekdays.

mornings - protein shake (39 grams), greek yogurt parfait with banana's and strawberries (28 or so), protein bar (15)
Lunch - pretty much BBQ plate or sandwich
Evenings - protein shake before workout and after workout with another parfait

Down from low 240's to 226-228


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Re: Low fat vs low carb [Re: Bigbob_FTW] #15384092 04/24/25 08:49 PM
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Biggest thing that helped me lose 35 lbs in 4 months was reducing sugar, carbs and alcohol intake. Also ate more lean meats like chicken vs sausage type fatty meats. I eat LOTS of frozen fruit with no sugar added. My cholesterol dropped 50 points in 4 months, triglycerides cut in half in the same period. We’re not high to begin with though.

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Originally Posted by learnin to fish
Biggest thing that helped me lose 35 lbs in 4 months was reducing sugar, carbs and alcohol intake. Also ate more lean meats like chicken vs sausage type fatty meats. I eat LOTS of frozen fruit with no sugar added. My cholesterol dropped 50 points in 4 months, triglycerides cut in half in the same period. We’re not high to begin with though.


congrats --- it must feel amazing to lose that much .
My wife lost 30lbs ( from 151 to 121 ) after her stroke ---in about 9 months .
All from eliminating any forms of sugar , fast carbs ( pasta , cooked potatoes , breads ) . No chemicals at all ---all whole organic foods . Meats are not bad for you if it's clean and if you chew it really good . Most people don't chew meat's good at all ---that creates a lot of bad bacteria in the gut .
reducing inflammation is more important that weight loss ---but they usually go hand in hand .
Sugars , HFC's and fast carbs are also really bad for your blood --- it spikes your A1C ( dumping glucose into your blood ) which also damages your red blood cells

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Thanks! I feel great, knees and feet don’t hurt like they used to. I have lots more energy as well. Very hard to eat healthy when traveling. thankfully my job has kept me home quite a bit since I changed the way I was eating, makes it much easier eating healthy at home vs trying to eat healthy on the road.

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I used low fat, aka the Larry North diet, years ago. I lost a lot of weight but it made my hair fall out. Guess I'd rather be pudgy with hair than skinny and bald.

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Originally Posted by reeltexan


I used low fat, aka the Larry North diet, years ago. I lost a lot of weight but it made my hair fall out. Guess I'd rather be pudgy with hair than skinny and bald.

roflmao


Ha, I'm pudgy and bald roflmao

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