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Outboard Question
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04/22/25 04:39 PM
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Mark C
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Figured I'd get more looks here than in Boats & Motors...
Motor is a 2004 Merc 3.0 liter 200 EFI on a Triton TR-196. Starts and runs great off the trailer but after it's been running a while (20 -30 min) and and you turn it off to fish and it sits an hour or so it will start restart fine, but it bogs and eventually dies trying to get on plane. After it dies it usually won't start again for over an hour.
Thought it was possibly air in the fuel system since a lot of it was original. So far I've replaced lift pump, high pressure fuel pump, all fuel lines, fuel tank fitting and primer bulb. Took it out last night and it did the same dang thing.
Ideas to try? I've about had it with this thing.
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 04:49 PM
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Bob Davis
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Sounds like it's starving for fuel. Is there a vent on the gas cap or in the filler neck? Many years ago I had a Mariner 40HP with a portable fuel tank. If I didn't remember to vent the fuel cap, the boat would run great then eventually die. It was pulling a vacuum on the tank when not vented. I dunno, I'm not a mechanic. Just skatter shooting.
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 04:51 PM
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bradnitro175
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Have same motor 2003 id check the fuel pump inside the vst.if you buy a new one make sure it's a merc part big$$ The aftermarket ones will get hot and boil the fuel.
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 05:00 PM
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BrandoA
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I think Bob is on the right track. Research Outboard Vapor lock. I bet that is your problem
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 05:01 PM
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Mark C
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Have same motor 2003 id check the fuel pump inside the vst.if you buy a new one make sure it's a merc part big$$ The aftermarket ones will get hot and boil the fuel. I did think about the VST. I checked the filter screen on it and it was clean. You're right, OEM isn't cheap.
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 05:04 PM
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Mark C
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Sounds like it's starving for fuel. Is there a vent on the gas cap or in the filler neck? Many years ago I had a Mariner 40HP with a portable fuel tank. If I didn't remember to vent the fuel cap, the boat would run great then eventually die. It was pulling a vacuum on the tank when not vented. I dunno, I'm not a mechanic. Just skatter shooting. The vent is in the filler neck. It seems to be fine as far as I can tell, No problem putting gas in the boat.
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 05:05 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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break out another thousand.
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 05:11 PM
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reeltexan
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carb rebuild
first replace the gas, add some star tron and see if that helps. otherwise, what Bob said ^^
"..The pleasantist angling is to see the fish Cut with her golden oars the silver stream, And greedily devour the treacherous bait. Bill Shakespeare
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 05:13 PM
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Mark C
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carb rebuild
first replace the gas, add some star tron and see if that helps. otherwise, what Bob said ^^
it's fuel injected...
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 05:16 PM
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I have a 2002 doing basically the same thing and it’s had 2 different shops throwing parts at it for 6 months now. Mine definitely isn’t a fuel tank or venting problem, I strapped a 12 gallon auxiliary tank on the back deck and it did the same exact thing. Runs perfect first run off the trailer and the rest of the day it’s a dog.
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 05:16 PM
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reeltexan
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gas these days is the worst. try the flush, it worked earlier this year on mine (also injected)
"..The pleasantist angling is to see the fish Cut with her golden oars the silver stream, And greedily devour the treacherous bait. Bill Shakespeare
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 05:30 PM
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 05:31 PM
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 06:23 PM
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Sounds like vapor lock. replace fuel cap and replace tank vent line and filter. 
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Re: Outboard Question
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04/22/25 06:58 PM
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Chris B
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Hell, just keep throwing parts at it. You’ll find it eventually.
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