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Re: MLF Toyota Series [Re: J.H.S.] #15381829 04/21/25 10:52 PM
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I can’t take any story seriously, if they don’t know the difference between a “stripper boat” and a “striper boat”. Just saying…Mike

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Re: MLF Toyota Series [Re: J.H.S.] #15381836 04/21/25 11:03 PM
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He hasn’t said a darn thing which is smart and probably the advise his attorney gave him.

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The dude in the nitro must have been hauling butt, notice zero damage to the bow of the boat, yet the motor was knocked off. Had the boat completely on pad and the impact appears to start at the keel.

Also, is the Attorney who is representing the MLF angler the same Joe Durham who was involved in the controversy over hole sitting and harassment in a BASS Open a couple years back?

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Re: MLF Toyota Series [Re: B.K.S.] #15381840 04/21/25 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by B.K.S.
Not sure I’m buying the buoy is to blame, if he was close enough to get thrown into the CC boat, then he was too close to start with.


completely agree safe distance was not given to the boat sitting still he mad a judgement call and it cost 3 people there lives. real pathetic to blame on a missing or wrong buoy
with all the electronics we have these days he new the risk and did not care to slow down or give them room

Re: MLF Toyota Series [Re: grout-scout] #15381841 04/21/25 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
I can’t take any story seriously, if they don’t know the difference between a “stripper boat” and a “striper boat”. Just saying…Mike

100% agree! I wonder where the stripper boats have been hanging out when I am on the lake? Do you listen for the music or look for the lights?

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Originally Posted by Harleydude
Originally Posted by grout-scout
I can’t take any story seriously, if they don’t know the difference between a “stripper boat” and a “striper boat”. Just saying…Mike

100% agree! I wonder where the stripper boats have been hanging out when I am on the lake? Do you listen for the music or look for the lights?



First indication is cheap flower scented skank juice perfume. Catch a whiff of that and then start looking for disco balls, strobe lights and poles stick up in the air. grin


Or, so I have been told by a friend! roflmao

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Originally Posted by grout-scout
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I can’t take any story seriously, if they don’t know the difference between a “stripper boat” and a “striper boat”. Just saying…Mike

100% agree! I wonder where the stripper boats have been hanging out when I am on the lake? Do you listen for the music or look for the lights?



First indication is cheap flower scented skank juice perfume. Catch a whiff of that and then start looking for disco balls, strobe lights and poles stick up in the air. grin


Or, so I have been told by a friend! roflmao

What about glitter? Or is that just from the crappie bits?

Re: MLF Toyota Series [Re: grout-scout] #15381859 04/22/25 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
I can’t take any story seriously, if they don’t know the difference between a “stripper boat” and a “striper boat”. Just saying…Mike

Starting to sound like it was Joe Pool or Lewisville. roflmao


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Originally Posted by Harleydude
Originally Posted by grout-scout
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I can’t take any story seriously, if they don’t know the difference between a “stripper boat” and a “striper boat”. Just saying…Mike

100% agree! I wonder where the stripper boats have been hanging out when I am on the lake? Do you listen for the music or look for the lights?



First indication is cheap flower scented skank juice perfume. Catch a whiff of that and then start looking for disco balls, strobe lights and poles stick up in the air. grin


Or, so I have been told by a friend! roflmao

What about glitter? Or is that just from the crappie bits?



Oh, you’re being silly Sir. Everyone knows that the glitter is in the stripper skank body spray. That way when they rub against you, your spouse can see the glitter trail and smell skank on you.


Or, so I have been told by a friend…Mike

Re: MLF Toyota Series [Re: Douglas J] #15381962 04/22/25 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Douglas J
The dude in the nitro must have been hauling butt, notice zero damage to the bow of the boat, yet the motor was knocked off. Had the boat completely on pad and the impact appears to start at the keel.

Also, is the Attorney who is representing the MLF angler the same Joe Durham who was involved in the controversy over hole sitting and harassment in a BASS Open a couple years back?

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I don’t think anyone is disputing that fact that he was trimmed out which is over 50.

Re: MLF Toyota Series [Re: DanXB-21] #15382010 04/22/25 03:23 AM
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... that doesn't work in stained water or low light conditions...


Well, the incident we're all talking about neither was an issue... Dan


lol the speculation is wild. Have you seen that specific spot in the same conditions? You don't know what can or can't be seen if not

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Originally Posted by dramabeats
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... that doesn't work in stained water or low light conditions...


Well, the incident we're all talking about neither was an issue... Dan


lol the speculation is wild. Have you seen that specific spot in the same conditions? You don't know what can or can't be seen if not


Actually there's video from another competator of the exact spot 20 minutes prior. Sunshine and clear sky's.........

Re: MLF Toyota Series [Re: J.H.S.] #15382107 04/22/25 12:26 PM
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This is an interesting thread. Here are a few of my opinions;

1. Buoys should either be properly maintained or not exist. Official buoys installed by a federal agency such as the ACOE shouldn’t be spread out whichever way the wind blows IF they are. I agree you can’t mark every hazard, nor should every hazard be marked, however there is a distinct difference between a government agency installing signage and the general public tying a bleach bottle to the top of a stump. I agree, especially today, that the majority of boats don’t need or use most navigational buoys, especially those to warn of hazards. All of this to say, if the buoys were not properly placed and maintained and he did run aground and lost control like some have speculated, the boater with a lawyer might “get out of this” in court, not saying it’s right, but plenty of folks get out of things in court this way.

2. Most of us would be best off waiting to get our news regarding all things bass fishing from this cerebral tackle fella, he’s a straight shooter. His earlier videos are worth a watch also, particularly his bed time stories. If you haven’t checked him out, you should, and while you’re there don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe. I wonder if he posts on here.

3.IF the boater was distracted I’m not at all surprised this happened, and that more of this doesn’t happen. A few years back I was driving in the middle lane minding my business and some kid hit me like I was participating in some sort of nascar race. He was behind me like Dale Earnhardt, the intimidator, one second he wasn’t there, the next second I see him in my mirror drilling me in my rear quarter panel, sent my truck and I into a spin before I even fully knew what was happening, I collided with the guard rail going 70. He admitted to me and the cops that he was speeding and on his phone, honest with his stupidity at least, thought it was admirable.

This is not a young vs old problem. I see people of all ages, shapes, and sizes driving the roads with their phone up to their steering wheel, distracted, very distracted, and these same people get get in boats and are distracted easily there too. The problem starts in the cars we drive, and you fix it with law enforcement. If law enforcement prioritized public safety, they would drop heavy $$ citations on people texting and driving, it wouldn’t be a secondary offense like it is most places today

I’ll part with one more suggestion. Instead of not allowing tiller handle boats in tournaments REQUIRE them. They’re safer and you’ll know when you’re distracted. The original reason tillers weren’t allowed, I’ve been told was because they didn’t allow space for a co angler, since those are gone, everyone needs to get in a tiller. Safer, more reliable, and if you get the right one you’ll be hard pressed to ever spear a wave again. All of my PB fish have come from my tiller boat, 13 pound bass, public water, out of little tin boat, don’t think you need a glitter rocker to catch big fish or compete in tournaments, especially if everyone else is in smaller boats.

Out of respect for those involved I will refrain from speculating, and will be following to see the facts and formulate further opinion.

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Originally Posted by nfhbass
This is an interesting thread. Here are a few of my opinions;

1. Buoys should either be properly maintained or not exist. Official buoys installed by a federal agency such as the ACOE shouldn’t be spread out whichever the wind blows IF they are. I agree you can’t mark every hazard, nor should every hazard be marked, however there is a distinct difference between a government agency installing signage and the general public tying a bleach bottle to the top of a stump. I agree, especially today, that the majority of boats don’t need or use most navigational buoys, especially those to warn of hazards. All of this to say, if the buoys were not properly placed and maintained and he did run aground and lost control like some have speculated, the boater with a lawyer probably “gets out of this” in court, not saying it’s right, but plenty of folks get out of things in court this way.

2. Most of us would be best off waiting to get our news regarding all things bass fishing from this cerebral tackle fella, he’s a straighter shooter. His earlier videos are worth a watch also, particularly his bed time stories. If you haven’t checked him out, you should, and while you’re there don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe

3.IF the boater was distracted I’m not at all surprised this happened, and that more of this doesn’t happen. A few years back I was driving in the middle lane minding my business and some kid hit me like I was participating in some sort of nascar race. He was behind me like Dale Earnhardt, the intimidator, one second he wasn’t there, the next second I see him in my mirror drilling me in my rear quarter panel, sent my truck and I into a spin before I even fully knew what was happening, I collided with the guard rail going 70. He admitted to me and the cops that he was speeding and on his phone, honest with his stupidity at least, thought it was admirable.

This isn’t not a young vs old problem. I see people of all ages, shapes, and sizes driving the roads with their phone up to their steering wheel, distracted, very distracted, and these same people get get in boats and are distracted easily there too. The problem starts in the cars we drive, and you fix it with law enforcement. If law enforcement prioritized public safety, they would drop heavy $$ citations on people texting and driving, it wouldn’t be a secondary offense like it is most places today

I’ll part with one more suggestion. Instead of not allowing tiller handle boats in tournaments REQUIRE them. They’re safer and you’ll know when you’re distracted. The original reason tillers weren’t allowed, I’ve been told was because they didn’t allow space for a co angler, since those are gone, everyone needs to get in a tiller. Safer, more reliable, and if you get the right one you’ll be hard pressed to ever spear a wave again. All of my PB fish have come from my tiller boat, 13 pound bass, public water, out of little tin boat, don’t think you need a glitter rocker to catch big fish or compete in tournaments, especially if everyone else is in smaller boats.

Out of respect for those involved I will refrain from speculating, and will be following to see the facts and formulate further opinion.


The issue I have seen first hand with buoys, one time came very close to getting me run over in broad daylight on granbury, is people who aren't experienced and familiar confuse boat lane buoys with hazard buoys. There is a rock pile on PK that comes very close to surface depending on lake level, I have seen it out of the water. I can't count how many boats I have seen come out of the marked lane and run right over the top of it. I'm 100 percent sure they think it's the lane. On granbury there is a similar situation, it has multiple buoys around it and an orange floating marker. I had a boat run within 5 feet of the nose of my boat WOT with me trying to wave him off, and flipping him off the last 20 yards. He circled back and I showed him what he ran over and he couldn't believe it. The boat lane marker was 75 yards away. Nevermind he shouldn't have ran that close to me to begin with. If he had hit the rocks a foot under the surface he could easily have launched into me. And yes he was new with a boat, new on the lake and thought it was boat lane.

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Originally Posted by nfhbass
This is an interesting thread. Here are a few of my opinions;

1. Buoys should either be properly maintained or not exist. Official buoys installed by a federal agency such as the ACOE shouldn’t be spread out whichever way the wind blows IF they are. I agree you can’t mark every hazard, nor should every hazard be marked, however there is a distinct difference between a government agency installing signage and the general public tying a bleach bottle to the top of a stump. I agree, especially today, that the majority of boats don’t need or use most navigational buoys, especially those to warn of hazards. All of this to say, if the buoys were not properly placed and maintained and he did run aground and lost control like some have speculated, the boater with a lawyer might “get out of this” in court, not saying it’s right, but plenty of folks get out of things in court this way.

2. Most of us would be best off waiting to get our news regarding all things bass fishing from this cerebral tackle fella, he’s a straight shooter. His earlier videos are worth a watch also, particularly his bed time stories. If you haven’t checked him out, you should, and while you’re there don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe. I wonder if he posts on here.

3.IF the boater was distracted I’m not at all surprised this happened, and that more of this doesn’t happen. A few years back I was driving in the middle lane minding my business and some kid hit me like I was participating in some sort of nascar race. He was behind me like Dale Earnhardt, the intimidator, one second he wasn’t there, the next second I see him in my mirror drilling me in my rear quarter panel, sent my truck and I into a spin before I even fully knew what was happening, I collided with the guard rail going 70. He admitted to me and the cops that he was speeding and on his phone, honest with his stupidity at least, thought it was admirable.

This is not a young vs old problem. I see people of all ages, shapes, and sizes driving the roads with their phone up to their steering wheel, distracted, very distracted, and these same people get get in boats and are distracted easily there too. The problem starts in the cars we drive, and you fix it with law enforcement. If law enforcement prioritized public safety, they would drop heavy $$ citations on people texting and driving, it wouldn’t be a secondary offense like it is most places today

I’ll part with one more suggestion. Instead of not allowing tiller handle boats in tournaments REQUIRE them. They’re safer and you’ll know when you’re distracted. The original reason tillers weren’t allowed, I’ve been told was because they didn’t allow space for a co angler, since those are gone, everyone needs to get in a tiller. Safer, more reliable, and if you get the right one you’ll be hard pressed to ever spear a wave again. All of my PB fish have come from my tiller boat, 13 pound bass, public water, out of little tin boat, don’t think you need a glitter rocker to catch big fish or compete in tournaments, especially if everyone else is in smaller boats.

Out of respect for those involved I will refrain from speculating, and will be following to see the facts and formulate further opinion.

I always thought a Lund pro v guide with a 250 tiller on the back would be a sweet setup. Tons of room. Tillers would never work as hardly anyone makes them- sponsors pays the bills.
The advantage I guess is your aren’t trimming out- maybe have trim limiters on the boats- I’m sure that’s a semi easy thing to figure out.

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