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Re: Texas Senate passes anti Solar and Wind Bill [Re: Spiderman] #15378960 04/17/25 03:24 PM
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COAL - drill baby drill. Or whatever they do to get coal out of the ground. Mine baby mine, maybe!


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Re: Texas Senate passes anti Solar and Wind Bill [Re: Jman] #15378964 04/17/25 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jman
COAL - drill baby drill. Or whatever they do to get coal out of the ground. Mine baby mine, maybe!


The infrastructure is In place in Wyoming for all the coal you want. There is enough to run this country at 2000 demands for 2000 years.
The cheapest cleanest coal in America

Just call them and put in your order they are waiting

Re: Texas Senate passes anti Solar and Wind Bill [Re: Spiderman] #15378965 04/17/25 03:32 PM
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Economics (initial installation + maintenance cost, repair, battery recycle/replacement, payout, etc.) is absolutely salesman & poor decision ($$). Put $$ in bank CD & come out way ahead to pay for electricity!! Furthermore, most of wind & solar materials are made from petroleum products.

Re: Texas Senate passes anti Solar and Wind Bill [Re: Jman] #15378986 04/17/25 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jman
COAL - drill baby drill. Or whatever they do to get coal out of the ground. Mine baby mine, maybe!


We only have a few coal plants left. Martin Creek and Welsh are still operating. Maybe the Trump administration and the common sense it is demonstrating in terms of energy will allow them to keep operating. We already froze 250 Texans to death in February of 2021 with our idiotic reliance on windmills and solar, which froze up and/or don't work when it's cloudy/snowy and the wind isn't blowing.

By the way, I'm probably finished fishing in January when big government regulation finally succeeds in closing the last coal plant. Y'all can have trying to get bass to eat in 40 degree water.

Re: Texas Senate passes anti Solar and Wind Bill [Re: Spiderman] #15379026 04/17/25 04:50 PM
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I do design work for inverters and optimizers in the solar industry . Solar pays for itself in the long run . Here is an example ---next door neighbor . Out of pocket total approx $17K . 12 panels , one Tesla power wall .
He had it installed on an 8 year old roof . His monthly PGE bill is less that $25 mo average . I have the same exact house layout . my average bill is now about $320 /mo .
My neighbor will be equal to my put of pocket in approx 6 years after install .
He doesn't have to worry about price increases , when my power goes out --his is still on . We don't have hail ---so no worry about panels getting broken .
His Tesla --- and solar roof saves him an additional $300 on buying gas .
When I need a new roof ---100% going to install solar
The new panels coming out in two years will be approx 400 watts power each

Re: Texas Senate passes anti Solar and Wind Bill [Re: Razorback] #15379029 04/17/25 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Razorback
Originally Posted by Jman
COAL - drill baby drill. Or whatever they do to get coal out of the ground. Mine baby mine, maybe!


We only have a few coal plants left. Martin Creek and Welsh are still operating. Maybe the Trump administration and the common sense it is demonstrating in terms of energy will allow them to keep operating. We already froze 250 Texans to death in February of 2021 with our idiotic reliance on windmills and solar, which froze up and/or don't work when it's cloudy/snowy and the wind isn't blowing.

By the way, I'm probably finished fishing in January when big government regulation finally succeeds in closing the last coal plant. Y'all can have trying to get bass to eat in 40 degree water.

He has heard you. But it is only a 2 year exemption.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-co...-zeldin-2cd9f2697b5f46a88ab9882ab6fd1641

Re: Texas Senate passes anti Solar and Wind Bill [Re: Rayzor] #15379050 04/17/25 05:38 PM
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Start spending money on power sources that really work. Solar and wind is a fantasy right now.



Renewable sources produce about 25% or our energy currently. Imagine Texas with 25% less in August.

What would you do differently?


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They gotta take care of their fossil fuel buddies

Re: Texas Senate passes anti Solar and Wind Bill [Re: reeltexan] #15379062 04/17/25 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by reeltexan
Originally Posted by Rayzor
Start spending money on power sources that really work. Solar and wind is a fantasy right now.



Renewable sources produce about 25% or our energy currently. Imagine Texas with 25% less in August.

What would you do differently?


I wouldn't have put in place idiotic and destructive regulations that effectively closed the Monticello, Fairfield, and Pirkey plants in East Texas. Monticello alone powered something like 450,000 homes. We never had brownouts and blackouts before we became "enlightened" by the Church of Global Warming and started cutting off our noses to spite our faces. I've lived in East Texas my entire life and spent countless days on power plant lakes. My mom lived within sight of the Pirkey plant stack. I could almost walk to the Daisy Bradford well site that brought in the East Texas oilfield. I live probably eight miles as the crow flies from a refinery. Amazingly enough, my parents lived to be old folks despite the evil, killer powerplants and oil operations around them. My wife's mother recently died at 90. Her stepdad is about to turn 99 and is still kicking. I'm still here, along with deer and possums and dogs and cats and birds...and fish living in those powerplant lakes. Amazing, I know.

Re: Texas Senate passes anti Solar and Wind Bill [Re: reeltexan] #15379085 04/17/25 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by reeltexan
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Start spending money on power sources that really work. Solar and wind is a fantasy right now.



Renewable sources produce about 25% or our energy currently. Imagine Texas with 25% less in August.

What would you do differently?

Well the renewable nonsense, replaced our proven coal burning plants. When you remove proven coal burning plants and replace with windmills powered by liberal farts and hot air, you get what we current have.

Re: Texas Senate passes anti Solar and Wind Bill [Re: reeltexan] #15379099 04/17/25 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by reeltexan
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Start spending money on power sources that really work. Solar and wind is a fantasy right now.



Renewable sources produce about 25% or our energy currently. Imagine Texas with 25% less in August.

What would you do differently?


I would do coal, lignite, nuclear energy. Then we don’t have to worry about weather that impacts solar and wind.

Why did we go solar and wind anyway?


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Texas went about 30% solar and wind.
For most of Texas it makes sense. Most of Texas gets over 300 sunny days a year and over 300 windy days a year. When we have the least amount of wind (summer)….we have the most sun.

Also necessity….nuclear power plants get voted out of town time and time again.
There was a big push for nuclear power in the 90s; but most places voted no thank you.


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Originally Posted by CCTX
Texas went about 30% solar and wind.
For most of Texas it makes sense. Most of Texas gets over 300 sunny days a year and over 300 windy days a year. When we have the least amount of wind (summer)….we have the most sun.

Also necessity….nuclear power plants get voted out of town time and time again.
There was a big push for nuclear power in the 90s; but most places voted no thank you.


I don't know why we don't use nuclear as a more viable option. I can understand the hesitancy with regard to Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, and Fukushima, but it seems that with the technology we have today, it does seem an option.

Three mile island was a stuck valve. Chernobyl was a fire containment error. Fukushima was a lack of containment also.

"These are the only major accidents to have occurred in over 18,500 cumulative reactor-years of commercial nuclear power operation in 36 countries" per https://world-nuclear.org/informati...-plants/safety-of-nuclear-power-reactors

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Fukushima was due to flooding . Pumps failed and they could not cool the reactor . All created by a once in a lifetime Tsunami .
There were tons of open contracts to a company in Japan --they had previously purchased Westinghouse . After Fukushima , all those global contracts were cancelled . The entire world went against any new reactors within 30 days .

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