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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: James Walston]
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04/07/25 12:40 PM
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There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid. I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore. Lake Houston has never received a stocking of sharelunker fry. It has never produced a sharelunker, therefore has never received a share of the fry. Yes, it has. At least 5 times since 1998. I was physically present twice in the 2000's when they did. 2002-2003, 2010-2013. The point of the program is to spread the genetics to all Texas lakes. https://tpwd.texas.gov/fishboat/fish/action/stock_bywater.php?WB_code=0368I respectfully disagree. It wasn't stocked at all in 2002-2003, nor 2010-2012. 2013 it received regular Florida strain bass. You know you can look this stuff up right?
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: grout-scout]
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04/07/25 01:14 PM
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James Walston
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Grout, Yes, I did know you could look it up. I was wrong on my memory range. It wasn't 2010-2012, it was 2013. The stocking truck that I saw at the marina In the early 2000's walked into the marina and said he was dropping bass off and wanted to access the property between the marina and bridge. I guess I was wrong. Does your weenie feel bigger now? Congrats, you won the contest. 
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: Brian Spagnola]
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04/07/25 01:14 PM
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Congrats to Kyle and to the angler. Fish of multiple life times, happy for both of them.
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: Brian Spagnola]
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04/07/25 01:26 PM
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James Walston
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I respectfully disagree. It wasn't stocked at all in 2002-2003, nor 2010-2012. 2013 it received regular Florida strain bass. You know you can look this stuff up right? [/quote] You're right, and yes I did know. I was working off memory, and I was mistaken on the first date range, as explained to the other member above. I was a year off, on the second date range. All of that has been years ago, and I was working off memory. I applaud your mild correction, unlike someone above you.
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: GMTK]
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04/09/25 04:53 AM
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Sdfish
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Congrats to Kyle and to the angler. Fish of multiple life times, happy for both of them. Agreed
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: James Walston]
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04/09/25 10:32 AM
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Grout, Yes, I did know you could look it up. I was wrong on my memory range. It wasn't 2010-2012, it was 2013. The stocking truck that I saw at the marina In the early 2000's walked into the marina and said he was dropping bass off and wanted to access the property between the marina and bridge. I guess I was wrong. Does your weenie feel bigger now? Congrats, you won the contest.  Nope, but quit acting ignorant and like you know what you’re talking about. You have argued multiple times in the thread with people and were wrong everytime. You still don’t realize the difference between FL strain and the SAL fish.
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: grout-scout]
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04/10/25 12:47 AM
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James Walston
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Grout, Yes, I did know you could look it up. I was wrong on my memory range. It wasn't 2010-2012, it was 2013. The stocking truck that I saw at the marina In the early 2000's walked into the marina and said he was dropping bass off and wanted to access the property between the marina and bridge. I guess I was wrong. Does your weenie feel bigger now? Congrats, you won the contest.  Nope, but quit acting ignorant and like you know what you’re talking about. You have argued multiple times in the thread with people and were wrong everytime. You still don’t realize the difference between FL strain and the SAL fish. Actually, dirtbag, I wasn't completely wrong. I see you on other posts being a complete [censored] as well. Must suck to be you!
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: James Walston]
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04/10/25 01:09 AM
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grout-scout
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Actually, dirtbag, I wasn't completely wrong. I see you on other posts being a complete [censored] as well. Must suck to be you!
 Lol, every single thing you have written in this entire thread was wrong. A man that trust the experts, but doesn’t even know what a ShareLunker offspring is.  Only an Ahole to the ignorant, by the way. Respect is given to people that deserve it.
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: Brian Spagnola]
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04/10/25 01:20 AM
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Don't make me update the "Hurt feelings report"!
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
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04/10/25 01:25 AM
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Don't make me update the "Hurt feelings report"!

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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: grout-scout]
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04/10/25 01:39 AM
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James Walston
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Actually, dirtbag, I wasn't completely wrong. I see you on other posts being a complete [censored] as well. Must suck to be you!
 Lol, every single thing you have written in this entire thread was wrong. A man that trust the experts, but doesn’t even know what a ShareLunker offspring is.  Only an Ahole to the ignorant, by the way. Respect is given to people that deserve it. I do know what the difference is. SAL offspring is direct. The LS stock is from fry from SAL fish, that are raised to be brood fish, that have fry that are stocked in Texas lakes. They still have the genetics. Where am I wrong? I even conceded that my memory was way off on what I had seen on Lake Houston. Only ignorant people, act like you. But here is where you are dead [censored] wrong. You say the program kills more fish, than the good it does. I sent an inquiry to the SAL program, and this was the response: "Thank you for reaching out and asking for information. Through time we have had over 650 fish transported to TPWD hatcheries for the selective spawning program. In the earlier years, the mortality was higher than it is now and we refined what best practices were for holding big bass in a hatchery setting. Overall we have a 75% survival rate. However, if you look at just the last 4 years, we have had 57 ShareLunkers transported to the hatchery and only had 1 mortality. We continue to improve our big bass care through time. Please remember that when this program started, most anglers were just beginning to think about bass care and catch and release fishing. Much has changed and we continue to get better." In 4 years 1 out of 57 has died. 1. I don't think perfection is attainable, but that's damn close.
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: prosise]
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04/10/25 01:50 AM
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James Walston
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Don't make me update the "Hurt feelings report"!
 That's actually funny. Nah, it's just 2 guys arguing endlessly. I'm guilty.
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
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04/10/25 01:50 AM
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grout-scout
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I do know what the difference is. SAL offspring is direct. The LS stock is from fry from SAL fish, that are raised to be brood fish, that have fry that are stocked in Texas lakes. They still have the genetics. Where am I wrong? I even conceded that my memory was way off on what I had seen on Lake Houston. Only ignorant people, act like you. But here is where you are dead [censored] wrong. You say the program kills more fish, than the good it does. I sent an inquiry to the SAL program, and this was the response: "Thank you for reaching out and asking for information. Through time we have had over 650 fish transported to TPWD hatcheries for the selective spawning program. In the earlier years, the mortality was higher than it is now and we refined what best practices were for holding big bass in a hatchery setting. Overall we have a 75% survival rate. However, if you look at just the last 4 years, we have had 57 ShareLunkers transported to the hatchery and only had 1 mortality. We continue to improve our big bass care through time. Please remember that when this program started, most anglers were just beginning to think about bass care and catch and release fishing. Much has changed and we continue to get better."
In 4 years 1 out of 57 has died. 1. I don't think perfection is attainable, but that's damn close.
There you go again, fool. I wasn’t the one that said that. Can you get anything right? 
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: grout-scout]
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04/10/25 02:02 AM
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James Walston
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I do know what the difference is. SAL offspring is direct. The LS stock is from fry from SAL fish, that are raised to be brood fish, that have fry that are stocked in Texas lakes. They still have the genetics. Where am I wrong? I even conceded that my memory was way off on what I had seen on Lake Houston. Only ignorant people, act like you. But here is where you are dead [censored] wrong. You say the program kills more fish, than the good it does. I sent an inquiry to the SAL program, and this was the response: "Thank you for reaching out and asking for information. Through time we have had over 650 fish transported to TPWD hatcheries for the selective spawning program. In the earlier years, the mortality was higher than it is now and we refined what best practices were for holding big bass in a hatchery setting. Overall we have a 75% survival rate. However, if you look at just the last 4 years, we have had 57 ShareLunkers transported to the hatchery and only had 1 mortality. We continue to improve our big bass care through time. Please remember that when this program started, most anglers were just beginning to think about bass care and catch and release fishing. Much has changed and we continue to get better."
In 4 years 1 out of 57 has died. 1. I don't think perfection is attainable, but that's damn close.
There you go again, fool. I wasn’t the one that said that. Can you get anything right?  I told you my memory was bad  I'll concede that too. It was B_RR_T. I apologize.
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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39
[Re: grout-scout]
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04/10/25 02:06 AM
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Smurfs
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I do know what the difference is. SAL offspring is direct. The LS stock is from fry from SAL fish, that are raised to be brood fish, that have fry that are stocked in Texas lakes. They still have the genetics. Where am I wrong? I even conceded that my memory was way off on what I had seen on Lake Houston. Only ignorant people, act like you. But here is where you are dead [censored] wrong. You say the program kills more fish, than the good it does. I sent an inquiry to the SAL program, and this was the response: "Thank you for reaching out and asking for information. Through time we have had over 650 fish transported to TPWD hatcheries for the selective spawning program. In the earlier years, the mortality was higher than it is now and we refined what best practices were for holding big bass in a hatchery setting. Overall we have a 75% survival rate. However, if you look at just the last 4 years, we have had 57 ShareLunkers transported to the hatchery and only had 1 mortality. We continue to improve our big bass care through time. Please remember that when this program started, most anglers were just beginning to think about bass care and catch and release fishing. Much has changed and we continue to get better."
In 4 years 1 out of 57 has died. 1. I don't think perfection is attainable, but that's damn close.
There you go again, fool. I wasn’t the one that said that. Can you get anything right?  Is this really nffbass undercover?
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