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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39 [Re: Harleydude] #15371028 04/06/25 09:46 PM
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Used to be a FatBoy. Sold it when I moved back out to Midland. You will get crushed by oil field trucks on a bike. Not worth the risk to me out here. It was fun though!

I would imagine. I've heard that the roads are pretty dangerous out there. I just bought a 2024 RG, and just got finished building it out. I'm retired 55. It's all I do. Ride, fish, over and over.

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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39 [Re: Barrett] #15371036 04/06/25 09:53 PM
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There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up
And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid.

I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore.

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Originally Posted by James Walston
Originally Posted by Barrett
There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up
And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid.

I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore.


Just stock floridas......

Re: Kyle Hall 16.39 [Re: James Walston] #15371039 04/06/25 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by James Walston
Originally Posted by Barrett
There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up
And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid.

I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore.



You do realize that a SAL fish is just a Florida strain largemouth, right? They aren’t breeding large males with the females, they are just breeding any FL male with these fish. The program is a crock.

Re: Kyle Hall 16.39 [Re: grout-scout] #15371080 04/06/25 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by James Walston
Originally Posted by Barrett
There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up
And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid.

I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore.



You do realize that a SAL fish is just a Florida strain largemouth, right? They aren’t breeding large males with the females, they are just breeding any FL male with these fish. The program is a crock.


Not all SAL’s are pure Florida strain.

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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by James Walston
Originally Posted by Barrett
There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up
And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid.

I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore.



You do realize that a SAL fish is just a Florida strain largemouth, right? They aren’t breeding large males with the females, they are just breeding any FL male with these fish. The program is a crock.

According to tpwd, all males are offspring of Sals and used for brooding.

Re: Kyle Hall 16.39 [Re: James Walston] #15371108 04/06/25 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by James Walston
Originally Posted by Barrett
There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up
And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid.

I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore.


Lake Houston has never received a stocking of sharelunker fry. It has never produced a sharelunker, therefore has never received a share of the fry.

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Originally Posted by Walls
Originally Posted by James Walston
Originally Posted by Barrett
There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up
And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid.

I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore.


Lake Houston has never received a stocking of sharelunker fry. It has never produced a sharelunker, therefore has never received a share of the fry.


Houston has received Lone Star Bass starting in 2022. Pure Florida bass spawned from Legacy class bass.

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Originally Posted by B.K.S.
If that’s what happened I would not be surprised in the least. Also the guide just got sponsored by 6th so I’m sure there is a need to push those baits real hard. When it comes to the traveling circus can you really believe anything. Wasn’t there some questions on whether that 17lbr was snagged or not a couple of years ago?



You better be careful talking about Conn. He will fight you at the ramp. All 5 feet 4 of him.


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If that’s what happened I would not be surprised in the least. Also the guide just got sponsored by 6th so I’m sure there is a need to push those baits real hard. When it comes to the traveling circus can you really believe anything. Wasn’t there some questions on whether that 17lbr was snagged or not a couple of years ago?



You better be careful talking about Conn. He will fight you at the ramp. All 5 feet 4 of him.


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Re: Kyle Hall 16.39 [Re: JackMason] #15371291 04/07/25 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JackMason
Originally Posted by Walls
Originally Posted by James Walston
Originally Posted by Barrett
There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up
And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid.

I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore.


Lake Houston has never received a stocking of sharelunker fry. It has never produced a sharelunker, therefore has never received a share of the fry.


Houston has received Lone Star Bass starting in 2022. Pure Florida bass spawned from Legacy class bass.


Lone Star bass are not spawned from Legacy class bass. They are spawned from broodfish produced from Legacy class bass. So, maybe better than plain jane Florida's, but not straight from a teener either. Kind of a one-off.

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Originally Posted by tmd11111

Not all SAL’s are pure Florida strain.



Don’t they have to be something like 90% FL strain to be bred into the program? I remember Falcon fish being rejected because they were too much northern strain.

Re: Kyle Hall 16.39 [Re: grout-scout] #15371342 04/07/25 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Originally Posted by James Walston
Originally Posted by Barrett
There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up
And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid.

I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore.



You do realize that a SAL fish is just a Florida strain largemouth, right? They aren’t breeding large males with the females, they are just breeding any FL male with these fish. The program is a crock.

You're entitled to say that, but, I'll think and trust that TPWD are the subject matter experts.

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Originally Posted by Walls
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Originally Posted by Barrett
There was one year not too terribly long ago where they killed the piss out of them. I’m just saying it’s strange to me they snagged this one up
And broke their own rules. Plus the fish was yanked off a bed while In the process of spawning. We literally intervened with Mother Nature. I think that’s stupid.

I get what you are saying. But would you agree, or disagree that the program does do good by spreading and strengthening the genetics in other Texas lakes. Take Lake Houston for example. Before about 1998, the bass in Lake Houston were on average small and the Tuesday night tournaments were a 35-40 boat deal and the bags were less than 15-17lbs. TPWD has made about 6 stockings of sharelunker fry in that lake and it has slowly improved. Tuesday night tournaments are now in the 19-25lb range and 8-9lb bass are not uncommon on that lake anymore.


Lake Houston has never received a stocking of sharelunker fry. It has never produced a sharelunker, therefore has never received a share of the fry.

Yes, it has. At least 5 times since 1998. I was physically present twice in the 2000's when they did. 2002-2003, 2010-2013. The point of the program is to spread the genetics to all Texas lakes.

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Originally Posted by James Walston

You're entitled to say that, but, I'll think and trust that TPWD are the subject matter experts.



Then you should actually do some research on the program, because you currently don’t understand it.



Is this the lake your claiming was stocked with SAL in the 2000’s?


https://tpwd.texas.gov/fishboat/fish/action/stock_bywater.php?WB_code=0368

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