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 Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: Brent S]
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04/06/25 01:24 PM
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When the BASS opens were at Lewisville years ago, he did reach out to and practice with at least one local before the event. I know it wasn't a violation, but it is an example of how he does business. How many in that field didn't he same at the time would you guess. No clue, but odds are he wasn't the only one. If I had to guess, maybe 10 to 15 percent of the field. I think if people really knew what all their favorites did over the years to find magical spots they would have a different opinion of them.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: Mulejockey1]
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04/06/25 01:30 PM
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Chris B
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I'd like to hear the real story on this. The real story is he was trying to see how close he could skirt the rule without breaking it. Have the guy pretend to be talking about water not included in the tournament waters. BS! This is a hit job plain and simple. It will not work out how bass and their blatant cheaters favors. I know one sponsor is pissed and taking names currently, HE is the king of sponsors. A lot of small time sponsors are going to pay the price. Bass will be the ultimate loser in this. He admitted to cheating in his video. Made up some BS about the polygraph guy is out to get him. BASS gave him the softest landing ever for getting caught cheating at the Okeechobee event. I've always liked him but it's pretty obvious he's one of the cheaters the honest anglers are trying to stop.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: Revoman]
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04/06/25 01:34 PM
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wanta10lbbass
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Ok, I'm sure I'll be called a "nuthugger" for this but whatever. Probably by someone defending (maybe a nuthugger themselves) a guy who has already admitted to cheating this season...
How exactly does BASS benefit from this? If this is some big conspiracy against Martin, what's BASS' motivation? Jealousy of his social medial platform? HAHAHAHA....c'mon. If anything BASS benefits from having a guy with that large of following on the tour, he brings more eyes.
And why if he passed the independent polygraph would be nervous about taking BASS' polygraph? A certain amount of people are taking them every event, and nobody else is having problems passing them or reporting issues with how they're administered.
I do think BASS should have to publish the name of the person filing the complaint.
He's had issues over and over....not saying others aren't, but he's obviously living pretty close to the edge pretty often.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: Revoman]
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04/06/25 01:41 PM
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I also agree that a lot of our past heroes and current have got help there's no way they always find the exact sweet spot , to me this whole thing has blew up in their faces Bass , the pros, all of them its a bad look . When I went to the classic a couple weeks ago I felt that I could not even approach the pros for worrying about saying something I shouldn't they need to fix this rule I'm not saying they don't need it but if its unsolicited I don't get it.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: 206champion]
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04/06/25 01:42 PM
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I also agree that a lot of our past heroes and current have got help there's no way they always find the exact sweet spot , to me this whole thing has blew up in their faces Bass , the pros, all of them its a bad look . When I went to the classic a couple weeks ago I felt that I could not even approach the pros for worrying about saying something I shouldn't they need to fix this rule I'm not saying they don't need it but if its unsolicited I don't get it. They should do away with it and make it a free for all.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: wanta10lbbass]
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04/06/25 01:44 PM
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grandbassslayer
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Ok, I'm sure I'll be called a "nuthugger" for this but whatever. Probably by someone defending (maybe a nuthugger themselves) a guy who has already admitted to cheating this season...
How exactly does BASS benefit from this? If this is some big conspiracy against Martin, what's BASS' motivation? Jealousy of his social medial platform? HAHAHAHA....c'mon. If anything BASS benefits from having a guy with that large of following on the tour, he brings more eyes.
And why if he passed the independent polygraph would be nervous about taking BASS' polygraph? A certain amount of people are taking them every event, and nobody else is having problems passing them or reporting issues with how they're administered.
I do think BASS should have to publish the name of the person filing the complaint.
He's had issues over and over....not saying others aren't, but he's obviously living pretty close to the edge pretty often.
He passed because he hired the polygrapher. It’s no different than a defense attorney hiring an expert witness- you think they’ll say something other than what they are supposed to? Ok the flip side BASS could have a rinky dink tester doing a bad job, contrary to the belief of some fans that have a BASS tattoo, it’s not some large organization- this is a niche sport.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: Used2fish]
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04/06/25 01:46 PM
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outfishdya
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BASS and other anglers have always been jealous of Martin's social media presence
There were people who were working hard to stop him both inside and outside of BASS.
Any of these guys with their own cameramen are breaking a rule when the cameraman is on tournament water with them, but BASS lets that slide That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read. His social media presence helps bass. Him leaving hurts them. What an ignorant thing to say. Jealous. Dude go buy a new googan bait and cry. But do it quietly. I don't watch Martin or own any Grogan, but I will quote your personal attack against me here.
Sometimes a bitter man trying to be a better man
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: outfishdya]
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04/06/25 01:55 PM
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Used2fish
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BASS and other anglers have always been jealous of Martin's social media presence
There were people who were working hard to stop him both inside and outside of BASS.
Any of these guys with their own cameramen are breaking a rule when the cameraman is on tournament water with them, but BASS lets that slide That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read. His social media presence helps bass. Him leaving hurts them. What an ignorant thing to say. Jealous. Dude go buy a new googan bait and cry. But do it quietly. I don't watch Martin or own any Grogan, but I will quote your personal attack against me here. Good. Let’s make sure nobody missed your ignorant statement.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: Used2fish]
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04/06/25 01:56 PM
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Chris B
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BASS and other anglers have always been jealous of Martin's social media presence
There were people who were working hard to stop him both inside and outside of BASS.
Any of these guys with their own cameramen are breaking a rule when the cameraman is on tournament water with them, but BASS lets that slide That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read. His social media presence helps bass. Him leaving hurts them. What an ignorant thing to say. Jealous. Dude go buy a new googan bait and cry. But do it quietly. Agreed.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: Revoman]
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04/06/25 02:00 PM
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outfishdya
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What socal media presence did BASS have 5 years ago?
What did Scott have 5 years ago?
I think it is fact he was much bigger on social media
Sometimes a bitter man trying to be a better man
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: Revoman]
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04/06/25 02:17 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: WAWI]
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04/06/25 02:29 PM
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206champion
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I also agree that a lot of our past heroes and current have got help there's no way they always find the exact sweet spot , to me this whole thing has blew up in their faces Bass , the pros, all of them its a bad look . When I went to the classic a couple weeks ago I felt that I could not even approach the pros for worrying about saying something I shouldn't they need to fix this rule I'm not saying they don't need it but if its unsolicited I don't get it. They should do away with it and make it a free for all. I agree.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: WAWI]
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04/06/25 02:37 PM
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rj74955
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I also agree that a lot of our past heroes and current have got help there's no way they always find the exact sweet spot , to me this whole thing has blew up in their faces Bass , the pros, all of them its a bad look . When I went to the classic a couple weeks ago I felt that I could not even approach the pros for worrying about saying something I shouldn't they need to fix this rule I'm not saying they don't need it but if its unsolicited I don't get it. They should do away with it and make it a free for all. I wish they would, it was a big boost to the local economy back in the day lol.
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: outfishdya]
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04/06/25 02:48 PM
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DanXB-21
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What socal media presence did BASS have 5 years ago?
What did Scott have 5 years ago?
I think it is fact he was much bigger on social media And BASS piggybacked off his social media presence... And Matin piggybacked off of BASS social media presence... Both take a hit here... Nothing career ending but a hit for both... Dan
"The problem with having a sense of humor is often that people you use it on aren't in a very good mood"...
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Re: Scott Martin out
[Re: Revoman]
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04/06/25 03:00 PM
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5Redman8
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He has always been one of the biggest information seekers/users. For lake X he would sometimes skirt the rules by asking about the fishing from an info provider about lake Y…..both of them knowing the info was for lake X
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