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F-4 gurus educate me
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04/05/25 06:32 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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We had a reserve wing of F-4D's. The standard loadout was a gun or targeting pod centerline, two inboard drop tanks and munitions outboard. After i left the changed to F-4E's. After they retired them they put one on static display at a local park. I see it has an internal gun, but the munitions racks took like the practice ones and there are no external tanks. What was their "standard" loadout?
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Re: F-4 gurus educate me
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04/05/25 06:57 PM
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Hopefully F4 Gator will reply! 
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04/05/25 08:11 PM
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Lol! 
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Re: F-4 gurus educate me
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04/05/25 08:49 PM
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Actually, it is supposed to read, USNSSYAS. Some folks never get it. Poor zoomies.
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04/05/25 09:00 PM
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My acquaintance who knows F4's is passed away. Nice write up on one of his SE Asia exploits: bit of a long read. https://12tfw.org/curtbriggsstory.pdf
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04/05/25 09:22 PM
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For air to air, our Lakenheath F-4D's usually carried 2 370 gal. fuel tanks on outbd. wing stations. Gun pod on centerline. 4 AIM 7's on the fuselage & 2 Aim 9's on each wing inbd station pylon.
Air to mud configuration was a whole different deal.
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Re: F-4 gurus educate me
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04/05/25 09:25 PM
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For air to air, our Lakenheath F-4D's usually carried 2 370 gal. fuel tanks on outbd. wing stations. Gun pod on centerline. 4 AIM 7's on the fuselage & 2 Aim 9's on each wing inbd station pylon.
Air to mud configuration was a whole different deal.
You are correct. I got the wing loading backwards. I was surprised to see the E with no external fuel.
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04/06/25 12:20 AM
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Actually, it is supposed to read, USNSSYAS. Some folks never get it. Poor zoomies. We’re just looking down at you guys…..at a very high rate of speed I might add…. doing the warheads on foreheads thing.
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04/06/25 02:20 AM
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The answer is "it depends on the mission".
1) Air defense load out in the F-4E was 2 x 370 gallon wing tanks on the outboard pylons, 1 x 600 gallon center line tank, 4 x AIM-9E, 4 x AIM-7E/M & 650 rounds of HEI in the M61A-1 Gatling gun
2) Air to Air load out in the F4E was 4 x AIM-9E, 3 x AIM-7E/M & 650 rounds of HEI in the M61A-1 Gatling gun, and a jammer in the left forward AIM-7 missile well, no tanks so you could pull up to 8 G's
3) Air to ground was normally 2 x 370 gallon wing tanks on the outboard pylons, 4 x AIM-9E on 2 inboard shoulder stations, 3 x AIM-7E/M & 650 rounds of HEI in the M61A-1 Gatling gun, a jammer in the left forward AIM-7 missile well, and 3 x 500lb MK-82's on the 2 inboard pylons. You could also carry and additional 6 x Mk-82's on the center line station. We would swap the jammer to the right forward missile well and carry a Laser designator in the left forward missile well to drop LGB's.
4) F-4G Suppression of Air Defenses load out was 1 x 600 gallon center line tank, 4 x AIM-9E on 2 inboard shoulder stations, 3 x AIM-7E/M, 4 x AGM-88 High Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles (HARM's) and a jammer in the left forward AIM-7 missile well. The center line tank in the F-4G model was stressed to aircraft limits, so you wouldn't have to jettison in a high G situation.
5) You could swap out the 6 MK-82's for 6 x AGM-65 Maverick missiles, or for Mk-83's (750lb) or Mk-84's (1,000Lb) in lessor quantities.
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04/06/25 05:31 PM
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04/06/25 05:34 PM
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Re: F-4 gurus educate me
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04/06/25 06:31 PM
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