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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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03/25/25 02:51 AM
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J.H.S.
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I think a lot of guys here are missing the point. I don’t think we are going to like what this is doing to our fisheries in a few years. Fish are only going to get harder and harder to catch until one day most of our lakes are like fishing Ray Roberts. I’ve seen it change in my 36 years on earth and I know you older guys have too. The fishing pressure has expanded to the entire lake and has grown exponentially. We will eventually grow the sport to much and it will outgrow our resource. So you’re willing to quit fishing so the pressure will be less? No. But I’m also not preaching “grow the sport” which we all know is just a ploy for companies to get rich. The sport was growing at a natural pace until they tried to make it mainstream. It’s just fad at the moment. Like travel baseball, golf, and all that other stuff. The new texhnooogy has brought a whole group of people into the industry and those fish that used to get away from the pressure are no longer able to. It will hurt our industry. And I can tell by your comment you are one of the ones missing the point.
Live Daringly, Boldy, and Fearlessly....Embrace the Challenge So That You May Feel the Exhiliration of Victory.
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
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03/25/25 03:02 AM
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goodman_fishing
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
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03/25/25 01:52 PM
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TxBazzn
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I often ask the Pro FFS in tournaments crowd if there is a red line for them in regard to technology. At what point is it too much? Because if you eventually have a line then you are being hypocritical, and if you don't, then you are an idiot.
I posted a hypothetical on A.I. and guys scoffed like it wasn't reality. I have news for you, the technology is already there, it just hasn't been applied to bass fishing yet. Now that Private Equity owns bass fishing you can bet that its coming. I recently left the PE world and it's all they talk about.
Today's boat is already totally networked. Starlink can be built in, more advanced black box processors are simple to make. A.I. will be in your bass boat.
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: grandbassslayer]
#15362013
03/25/25 02:14 PM
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InTheClear
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All BASS had to do was allow ffs one or two day and not allow it one day and the best fisherman would have won. Could they use SI,DI, Mapping, Power poles and spot lock trolling motors on the non FFS days? You guys don’t have any logic to your arguments. Trying to equate a scope to these other innovations is absolutely moronic!
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
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03/25/25 03:02 PM
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WAWI
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I was for it, the more I think about it i really don't think it's good long term. And yes I have it.....
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: InTheClear]
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03/25/25 03:36 PM
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CCTX
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All BASS had to do was allow ffs one or two day and not allow it one day and the best fisherman would have won. Could they use SI,DI, Mapping, Power poles and spot lock trolling motors on the non FFS days? You guys don’t have any logic to your arguments. Yes, power poles, spot lock, SI, DI, and mapping are tools that assist in the efficiency of finding areas likely to hold bait/fish and then anchor and fish those locations effectively. Live scope is completely different, enabling the user to visualize, track, and target the fish in real time. It's hunting. How popular have hunting tournament trails and hunting tournaments been historically? They haven't.
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: CCTX]
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03/25/25 03:41 PM
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wabash2015
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All BASS had to do was allow ffs one or two day and not allow it one day and the best fisherman would have won. Could they use SI,DI, Mapping, Power poles and spot lock trolling motors on the non FFS days? You guys don’t have any logic to your arguments. Yes, power poles, spot lock, SI, DI, and mapping are tools that assist in the efficiency of finding areas likely to hold bait/fish and then anchor and fish those locations effectively. Live scope is completely different, enabling the user to visualize, track, and target the fish in real time. It's hunting. How popular have hunting tournament trails and hunting tournaments been historically? They haven't. Anyone arguing that spot lock, power poles, SI, DI, or GPS mapping tools are even close to the level of advantage that FFS gives is not arguing in good faith. FFS gives you the ability to look at an individual bass behavior in REAL TIME. It's essentially sight fishing on ALL fish in ANY depth of water. Baseball, NASCAR, Formula 1, etc. have limitations on technology to keep the spirit of competition alive. Formula 1 especially puts limitations on technology that jeopardizes the spirit of the sport. There is no reason that limitations on technology cannot be applied to bass fishing. Simply limit the number of days that FFS can be used in a given tournament, or only allow FFS during practice would be an easy fix to this issue. I believe BASS has sat on this issue for far too long and if they instituted any real limitations on FFS it would kill a large portion of the Elites ability to actually catch fish. Way too many newer Elite anglers cannot cope without FFS.
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
#15362057
03/25/25 03:45 PM
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Harleydude
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
#15362059
03/25/25 03:50 PM
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CCTX
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mapquest
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: WAWI]
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03/25/25 08:48 PM
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bloo_rainger
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Its a time where growing up and learning how to do it now hurts you. Basically not having any previous memories of fishing and only one way to catch them dominates. Pretty wild how fishing is changing. Yup and there is a reality now that everyone should be figuring out. With 20 or so solid scopers in a field a couple of them are gonna land on them. It may not be the same one every week but it's gonna be one of them. If you aren't fishing in a 2 foot deep swamp you aren't gonna beat the scoper portion of the field 95 percent of time. No doubt…
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
#15362218
03/25/25 09:31 PM
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shotgunwilly
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There are 2 different sports, Tournament Bass Fishing and Tournament Livescoping. They’re just mixed together for the time being.
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: WAWI]
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03/25/25 09:52 PM
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tmd11111
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I was for it, the more I think about it i really don't think it's good long term. And yes I have it..... Ok Josh
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
#15362233
03/25/25 09:58 PM
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westxbass82
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Stanley Mitchell, Classic winner in 1981 at 21 years old. I bet he prolly had livescope and many years of experience.
Last edited by westxbass82; 03/26/25 12:24 AM.
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: Rangerkev]
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03/26/25 01:31 AM
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Redwatermelon
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How bout we celebrate a 22 year old that had brain surgery 1 year ago. And yesterday won the Bass Master Classic. It was a fair playing field. Every angler had access to the same equipment and tools and baits. Life is so much more fun when you are celebrating others victory's instead of bashing them. I agree 💯%!! Give the young man credit!!
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Re: so much for years of experience
[Re: beartrap]
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03/26/25 01:45 AM
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B.K.S.
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The loudest voices on here are the scope at any cost crowd, the old man bad crowd, the he’s just being hypocritical crowd. I believe you’re missing the point in the conversation. What are the long term cost? How much technology is too much? A very good point was brought up about every other sport limits something in that sport. Not to take anything away from the young man who won under today’s rules, Congratulations! But that doesn’t mean the sport is healthy for the long term either.
B.K.S.
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