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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: WAWI]
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03/10/25 12:53 PM
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I don't know about Autism. But vaccine injury is a real deal. In less than 10 days after a round of pre-k vaccines. Rue lost all of her motor skills. She layed in a catatonic state for at least a year. The only factor through a process of elimination was the shots she had gotten. My wife started researching. After a few months of detox baths. She came out of the catatonic state. She still can't walk or talk. Nine years later. Tack on seizures, breathing issues, severe chronic stomach issues, the inability to initiate a bowel movement, among a whole laundry list of other problems. Don't dare bring it up a Children's though. They go into super protective mode to cover their own behinds. Only one neurologist has even come close to admitting there is a link. Off the record of course. Because one can't soil the reputation of the great and corrupt Children's Hospital system. But off the record he said there are certain genetic markers that if present, can be problematic when it comes to vaccines. Naturally they aren't going to do genetic testing on every child. It's a very expensive process. Rue has had all.of testing available. While going down her chart. He didn't outright say that she showed those genetic markers. His poker fave was terrible. We could read it on his facial expressions as he went down the chart. This doctor was the head of the neurology department. He's no longer in that position. Disappeared like a fart in a hurricane shortly after that. Never mind that her childhood was stolen from her and our lives have been turned upside down for almost a decade. Never mind that she probably won't even see her 20th birthday. As long as the reputation of Children's stays in tact and they keep collecting money for ALL the damaged kids out there. Nothing to see here. Just move along. Call me anti-vax all you want. I wasn't, but I am now. It's real easy to point fingers when you haven't had to deal with the consequences for 10 years. When you haven't 'been mocked by medical professionals at a vastly respected institution like Children's. The medical industry is just as corrupt and filthy as politics. It's all about the money. Our health doesn't matter. The health of our kids and grandkids doesn't matter. Just the bottom line. You will never ever never find a doctor that will go on the record against another doctor short of something ridiculous. And the bar for any type of malpractice requires another doctor to do so. The bar for what's required of a doctor can be very very low. Don't think of them as scientists, mechanics is a more accurate definition. They follow guidelines because they are protected in doing so. Our situation ended in the loss of a child that never should have happened. The wagon circling was instant. A nurse would whisper in your ear that something wasn't done correctly or that wasn't supposed to happen, a doctor will raise an eyebrow or suggest something he would have done different but generally speaking hell will freeze over before a doctor takes a strong position against another doctor. They take care of their own. This can be said of attorneys, LEOs and other professions also. Self preservation for the most part. you protect me and I’ll protect you
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: 921 Phoenix]
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03/10/25 01:26 PM
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WAWI
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I don't know about Autism. But vaccine injury is a real deal. In less than 10 days after a round of pre-k vaccines. Rue lost all of her motor skills. She layed in a catatonic state for at least a year. The only factor through a process of elimination was the shots she had gotten. My wife started researching. After a few months of detox baths. She came out of the catatonic state. She still can't walk or talk. Nine years later. Tack on seizures, breathing issues, severe chronic stomach issues, the inability to initiate a bowel movement, among a whole laundry list of other problems. Don't dare bring it up a Children's though. They go into super protective mode to cover their own behinds. Only one neurologist has even come close to admitting there is a link. Off the record of course. Because one can't soil the reputation of the great and corrupt Children's Hospital system. But off the record he said there are certain genetic markers that if present, can be problematic when it comes to vaccines. Naturally they aren't going to do genetic testing on every child. It's a very expensive process. Rue has had all.of testing available. While going down her chart. He didn't outright say that she showed those genetic markers. His poker fave was terrible. We could read it on his facial expressions as he went down the chart. This doctor was the head of the neurology department. He's no longer in that position. Disappeared like a fart in a hurricane shortly after that. Never mind that her childhood was stolen from her and our lives have been turned upside down for almost a decade. Never mind that she probably won't even see her 20th birthday. As long as the reputation of Children's stays in tact and they keep collecting money for ALL the damaged kids out there. Nothing to see here. Just move along. Call me anti-vax all you want. I wasn't, but I am now. It's real easy to point fingers when you haven't had to deal with the consequences for 10 years. When you haven't 'been mocked by medical professionals at a vastly respected institution like Children's. The medical industry is just as corrupt and filthy as politics. It's all about the money. Our health doesn't matter. The health of our kids and grandkids doesn't matter. Just the bottom line. You will never ever never find a doctor that will go on the record against another doctor short of something ridiculous. And the bar for any type of malpractice requires another doctor to do so. The bar for what's required of a doctor can be very very low. Don't think of them as scientists, mechanics is a more accurate definition. They follow guidelines because they are protected in doing so. Our situation ended in the loss of a child that never should have happened. The wagon circling was instant. A nurse would whisper in your ear that something wasn't done correctly or that wasn't supposed to happen, a doctor will raise an eyebrow or suggest something he would have done different but generally speaking hell will freeze over before a doctor takes a strong position against another doctor. They take care of their own. This can be said of attorneys, LEOs and other professions also. Self preservation for the most part. you protect me and I’ll protect you That doesn't make it right..... my point is don't be Naive about doctors and do some due diligence on who you are chosing to treat you and your family. Pro tip, I'd start by looking at their degree, if it's from university of Monteray, Mexico he probably wasn't at the top of his class.
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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03/10/25 03:47 PM
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TFF should put their best research scientists on this immediately.
"..The pleasantist angling is to see the fish Cut with her golden oars the silver stream, And greedily devour the treacherous bait. Bill Shakespeare
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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03/10/25 03:54 PM
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Yeah this seems like something that should be considered and studied for sure.
Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards. - Soren Kierkegaard
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: RickS.]
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03/10/25 05:10 PM
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I don't know about Autism. But vaccine injury is a real deal. In less than 10 days after a round of pre-k vaccines. Rue lost all of her motor skills. She layed in a catatonic state for at least a year. The only factor through a process of elimination was the shots she had gotten. My wife started researching. After a few months of detox baths. She came out of the catatonic state. She still can't walk or talk. Nine years later. Tack on seizures, breathing issues, severe chronic stomach issues, the inability to initiate a bowel movement, among a whole laundry list of other problems. Don't dare bring it up a Children's though. They go into super protective mode to cover their own behinds. Only one neurologist has even come close to admitting there is a link. Off the record of course. Because one can't soil the reputation of the great and corrupt Children's Hospital system. But off the record he said there are certain genetic markers that if present, can be problematic when it comes to vaccines. Naturally they aren't going to do genetic testing on every child. It's a very expensive process. Rue has had all.of testing available. While going down her chart. He didn't outright say that she showed those genetic markers. His poker fave was terrible. We could read it on his facial expressions as he went down the chart. This doctor was the head of the neurology department. He's no longer in that position. Disappeared like a fart in a hurricane shortly after that. Never mind that her childhood was stolen from her and our lives have been turned upside down for almost a decade. Never mind that she probably won't even see her 20th birthday. As long as the reputation of Children's stays in tact and they keep collecting money for ALL the damaged kids out there. Nothing to see here. Just move along. Call me anti-vax all you want. I wasn't, but I am now. It's real easy to point fingers when you haven't had to deal with the consequences for 10 years. When you haven't 'been mocked by medical professionals at a vastly respected institution like Children's. The medical industry is just as corrupt and filthy as politics. It's all about the money. Our health doesn't matter. The health of our kids and grandkids doesn't matter. Just the bottom line. I am sorry for all that you've gone through --- I can't imagine . I agree with what your saying . I will add two things -- I had three months of crazy reactions to my Phizer shots --- left eye blindness for three days and no explanation on what happened . Right arm pain that was insane --- which then developed into a massive bursa sac issue( same arm as the shots ) . Then Shingles . I had a meeting with our Dr back in December --- she's been my main Dr for 20+ years . She always believed in all the vaccines . When she asked my wife and I if the nurse asked us to get " boosted " --- my wife went on a tirade . The Dr closed the door --- and told us that the CDC advised Kaiser that all the Covid shots were 100% useless in preventing COVID but they still want to " sell " the shots . She also told us that she no longer believed in ANY vaccines and would never recommend them to anyone
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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03/10/25 06:25 PM
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FWIW austism has increased the same amount in countries where they don't receive all of these vaccinations. We really don't know what the cause is but I do not believe it to be vaccines.
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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03/10/25 06:53 PM
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Those Amish kids are fine.
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: doctorb]
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03/10/25 06:57 PM
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FWIW austism has increased the same amount in countries where they don't receive all of these vaccinations. We really don't know what the cause is but I do not believe it to be vaccines. Which countries?
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: Bass-N-Buck Master]
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03/10/25 08:58 PM
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Those Amish kids are fine. Try again almost 400 cases of measles has been confirmed in Amish communities in 121 days.
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: Bass-N-Buck Master]
#15351731
03/10/25 09:18 PM
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Those Amish kids are fine. I’m not so certain about that.
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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03/10/25 09:33 PM
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Any study to help figure it out is good. Pesticides, preservatives, all the chemicals we're exposed to, etc... combination of things?
Everything should be on the table.  And when a link is found between autism and cell phone usage? Or WiFi? Or air conditioning? Or something else that is pervasive in our everyday lives? That's when it gets real. Tell people they have to give up something like that and let's see what happens.
"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin." - Samuel Adams
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: doctorb]
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03/10/25 10:16 PM
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FWIW austism has increased the same amount in countries where they don't receive all of these vaccinations. We really don't know what the cause is but I do not believe it to be vaccines. 5G
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: Texan Til I Die]
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03/10/25 10:17 PM
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Any study to help figure it out is good. Pesticides, preservatives, all the chemicals we're exposed to, etc... combination of things?
Everything should be on the table.  And when a link is found between autism and cell phone usage? Or WiFi? Or air conditioning? Or something else that is pervasive in our everyday lives? That's when it gets real. Tell people they have to give up something like that and let's see what happens. A lot of women are getting buried with their cell phones. No way they'll give them up while they're still kicking, or Yacking I should say.
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
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03/10/25 10:18 PM
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FWIW austism has increased the same amount in countries where they don't receive all of these vaccinations. We really don't know what the cause is but I do not believe it to be vaccines. 5G 6g will be better… 
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Re: New vaccine vs autism study
[Re: grandbassslayer]
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03/10/25 10:21 PM
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FWIW austism has increased the same amount in countries where they don't receive all of these vaccinations. We really don't know what the cause is but I do not believe it to be vaccines. Which countries? don't worry --- the studies in those countries were done by the vaccine companies --it's all good .
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