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Re: DQ on local or regional level
[Re: Txduckhunter]
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02/28/25 06:57 PM
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Mark Perry
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I have some questions pertaining to this rule...based on a few scenarios...
Lets say Mark Perry is fishing a pro level event at lake X in two days and is in the local tackle store buying some lures. As he puts the lures on the counter, he says to the clerk, "Hey what do the fish like to bite this time of year?" The two of them then have a 3 - 4 minute conversation discussing in full lures, water depths, locations etc. #1 Mark goes on to fish the event in every location they discussed using every lure they discussed in the exact water depth they discussed. #2 Mark goes on to fish the event, however, he never used a single lure, never fished the water depth, nor any of the locations that he discussed with the clerk.
#1 is the very definition of the rule - easy #2 some say still easy and he violated the rule, others say "did he have the conversation to gain some sort of competitive advantage" because if it was just small talk and he didn't use the info then not so easy
Okay, this time as Mark puts the lures on the counter and says nothing. The clerk however says to Mark "those are really good lures you are getting, especially around the 147 bridge pilings and FM113 overpass rip rap fished on a texas rig", before Mark has a chance to say "hey I'm not allowed to receive any information. They have no further conversation.
#1 Mark goes on to fish the event and catches them on texas rig on the 147 bridge pilings (because that was always Mark's game plan even before the tackle shop)
Last one, this time while Mark is looking at the lure selection, he overhears me buying some lures and having a conversation with the clerk about how well the lures were working and the key areas that are productive. Neither the clerk or I have any conversation with Mark. Can he buy and use the lures? If so, can he fish them in those key areas?
All this boils down to my question...Just how easy is it to "set up" one of these guys or make certain aspects off limits to the pro?
(To be clear, I don't believe Mark Perry has or would violate that rule or any other for that matter. Only thing he is guilty of is not sending me a Christmas card or even a thank you note after all the money he won from me over the years!) Please repost with something believable. Mark Perry doesn't ask the counter guy for tips - the counter guys asks Mark for tips. Anyone asking me for tips is really desperate. I don't even trust my own advice.
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Re: DQ on local or regional level
[Re: RKT]
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02/28/25 11:17 PM
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Dubee
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Most local circuits have rules that if you have been DQ'd for failing a polygraph that you are ineligible to fish the circuit. These are tournaments that may only pay around $1,000.00 for a win. However, pro's fishing for 6 figures can have been DQ'd for failing a polygraph and they are still be eligible to fish at the top level. This seems kind of backwards to me. I have never seen that rule in any tournament. Everyone I have ever seen says if you failed a polygraph for cheating
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Re: DQ on local or regional level
[Re: Douglas J]
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03/01/25 01:55 AM
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sprigsss
Extreme Angler
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I don’t believe polygraphs are 100% accurate. While it’s probably the best option to keep most fishermen honest, I won’t judge a man based on polygraph results only.
For Herren, I will wait until he tells his story. I doubt lawyers would be involved if it were cut and dry.
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Re: DQ on local or regional level
[Re: Douglas J]
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03/01/25 02:20 AM
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nfhbass
TFF Team Angler
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Anybody watch Todd’s video today?
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Re: DQ on local or regional level
[Re: nfhbass]
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03/01/25 02:38 AM
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SteezMacQueen
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Anybody watch Todd’s video today? Todd who? Castledine? Hahaha. No.
Eat. Sleep. Fish.
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Re: DQ on local or regional level
[Re: nfhbass]
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03/01/25 03:11 AM
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grout-scout
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Anybody watch Todd’s video today? Did he ramble incoherently for 20 mins, in what could have been said in 3 minutes?
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Re: DQ on local or regional level
[Re: Douglas J]
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03/01/25 03:30 AM
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nfhbass
TFF Team Angler
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I thought it was descent today
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Re: DQ on local or regional level
[Re: Douglas J]
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03/02/25 11:08 PM
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El Skeeter
Pro Angler
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Pro Angler
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If a local or regional angler failed a polygraph test, got disqualified, and then quickly quit while making a vague statement afterward, would they be seen as a "mistreated participant" or as someone who broke the rules and potentially cheated? I think it all depends on the circumstances and how it was communicated to the field. I concur. He touts being a "seasoned veteran" and he must of have understood that being told pertinent info during an off limits period and then not reporting it to the TD could have not been within the rules. It will be interesting if the entire story is told to the public. He thad threatened to not show up for the classic this year, wonder if he will show? If a local or regional angler failed a polygraph test, got disqualified, and then quickly quit while making a vague statement afterward, would they be seen as a "mistreated participant" or as someone who broke the rules and potentially cheated? I think it all depends on the circumstances and how it was communicated to the field. I concur. He touts being a "seasoned veteran" and he must of have understood that being told pertinent info during an off limits period and then not reporting it to the TD could have not been within the rules. It will be interesting if the entire story is told to the public. He thad threatened to not show up for the classic this year, wonder if he will show? Concur Hail Yes
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Re: DQ on local or regional level
[Re: Douglas J]
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03/03/25 05:50 PM
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BrockstaRama
Extreme Angler
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Extreme Angler
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The rule has always been there in one form or another. Just like anything, when rules are enforced after a period of lax enforcement people get caught.
When I am not fishing I am thinking about fishing. And mostly what I should have done differently my last trip! #Brockstarama
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Re: DQ on local or regional level
[Re: Douglas J]
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03/04/25 08:20 PM
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Champion1
TFF Team Angler
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TFF Team Angler
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It said DQ I thought we were gonna compare Dairy Queen dip cones to blizzards, my bad.
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