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Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: nfhbass] #15343542 02/28/25 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nfhbass
I wouldn’t call the kids “dogs” I would call them privileged. Surprising how much parents are willing to fund. More than ever before. I would say may parents are pretty well off, and no way in heck would they have funded a boat, much less supported me to go fish bass tournaments. Haha. No way Jose.

You have no way of knowing if parents fund now more than ever before.

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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
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I wouldn’t call the kids “dogs” I would call them privileged. Surprising how much parents are willing to fund. More than ever before. I would say may parents are pretty well off, and no way in heck would they have funded a boat, much less supported me to go fish bass tournaments. Haha. No way Jose.

You have no way of knowing if parents fund now more than ever before.


You didn’t like my trump impersonation? There are many, many parents. 50, maybe more, probablymore paying big bucks to watch their kid weigh in at an open.

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Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: H2O Seeker] #15343554 02/28/25 02:56 AM
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Has this turned into another, “old man yells at clouds” thread? popcorn

Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: grout-scout] #15343556 02/28/25 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Has this turned into another, “old man yells at clouds” thread? popcorn


All of the problems have been solved here. The folks at bass are reading. It will soon be solved

Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: nfhbass] #15343558 02/28/25 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nfhbass
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I wouldn’t call the kids “dogs” I would call them privileged. Surprising how much parents are willing to fund. More than ever before. I would say may parents are pretty well off, and no way in heck would they have funded a boat, much less supported me to go fish bass tournaments. Haha. No way Jose.

You have no way of knowing if parents fund now more than ever before.


You didn’t like my trump impersonation? There are many, many parents. 50, maybe more, probablymore paying big bucks to watch their kid weigh in at an open.

You or I have no idea who is funding what- and for that matter if a parent has the money than good for them. We used to applaud successful folks in this country but now we just bash them. I’ve never sat around at a weigh in and wondered what the net worth of folks around me is…🤷‍♂️🤦🏼

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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
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Originally Posted by nfhbass
I wouldn’t call the kids “dogs” I would call them privileged. Surprising how much parents are willing to fund. More than ever before. I would say may parents are pretty well off, and no way in heck would they have funded a boat, much less supported me to go fish bass tournaments. Haha. No way Jose.

You have no way of knowing if parents fund now more than ever before.


You didn’t like my trump impersonation? There are many, many parents. 50, maybe more, probablymore paying big bucks to watch their kid weigh in at an open.

You or I have no idea who is funding what- and for that matter if a parent has the money than good for them. We used to applaud successful folks in this country but now we just bash them. I’ve never sat around at a weigh in and wondered what the net worth of folks around me is…🤷‍♂️🤦🏼


I’ve gathered empirical data. I’ve paid attention to how bass fishing has changed over the last 15 years.

Plenty of boats are sold lately with this as the reason “used for high school tournaments and my kid went to college”

I’m not bashing successful people.

I don’t think Trey McKinney is a “dog”, Ben Milliken is a dog. JT Thompkins is not a dog. Justin Hamner is a dog.

Riding on mommy and daddy’s coat tails has always been unpopular. I’m forever thankful that my parents didn’t give out freebies, they helped with school. They’ve offered many times since and I say no, for things like house down payments, I want to fund those things on my own.

I would never in a million years ask my folks for money to fund bass fishing, what’s the ROI on that? Exactly. It’s not a questions of having money or not.

Different mentality I guess. I’ve just seen a lot of folks that don’t find their own way get lost.



Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: Mark Perry] #15343592 02/28/25 04:42 AM
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Well good luck to him. He's going to need it real soon. It shouldn't be no big deal for him.


Anyone that pays attention to competitive fishing can see the OBVIOUS. FFS vs None in bass tournaments wins EVERY time. Lots of playing around with limiting FFS to periods or days by the big boys has clearly exposed the advantage of front lookers, side lookers, rear lookers, shallow-water anchor lookers. Without question.

The only remaining question is how will the tours deal with it after the 2025 season?

Ban it and 80% of these kids that are “such dogs” will be gone the first year. Another 15% the following season. Keep it full time and watch this hobby/sport die by 2030. Won’t be anything but digital content.







Didn't Lowen just win an Elite without FFS and Lane a BPT without it?


I do agree with you that I think more limitations or outright bans are coming sooner rather than later at the pro level.




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Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: H2O Seeker] #15343623 02/28/25 11:00 AM
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This DQ blew up a lot of fantasy rosters. Martin was something like 60% owned last I checked.

Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: H2O Seeker] #15343636 02/28/25 11:53 AM
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He got DQ end of story
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Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: H2O Seeker] #15343639 02/28/25 12:02 PM
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Funny cause a good majority of people were using it on St John's, but many say is was a no scope tournament. Now Lowen did win without it.

I think BASS will approach the FFS debate with the power of scheduling. To get a healthy mix of tournaments where the scope is the main player and a few that its not. Maybe it will open up some lakes they would not consider in the past to meet this mix.

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Much respect for Scott. Good things will come his way.


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Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: rickys] #15343712 02/28/25 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rickys
I saw the video of what happened this morning that's going around. It's not good. lol....


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Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: H2O Seeker] #15343746 02/28/25 02:41 PM
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I am not a tournament fisherman but from an fan looking in this no info rule is childish. Good lord talking fishing is a no no.

Re: Scott Martin DQ'd @ Okeechobee [Re: H2O Seeker] #15343749 02/28/25 02:45 PM
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Sounds like another conspiracy from a certain podcaster that has always been jealous of Martin and was a complete flop in flw. In the video exists bring it out. Sure starting to sound like Scott was setup.


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