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Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Barrett] #15342270 02/26/25 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrett
DO AWAY WITH THE NO INFO RULE. Everybody and their dog knows the young cats are all getting information thats how they are able to compete bodies of water so large it takes more years than they have been alive to be competitive and learn. Its damn near impossible to not break this rule... just do away with it. They all break it. Every single of one of them somehow someway.

This is ignorant- you are claiming the young guys are all cheating- is that you Randy?

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Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: grandbassslayer] #15342279 02/26/25 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
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DO AWAY WITH THE NO INFO RULE. Everybody and their dog knows the young cats are all getting information thats how they are able to compete bodies of water so large it takes more years than they have been alive to be competitive and learn. Its damn near impossible to not break this rule... just do away with it. They all break it. Every single of one of them somehow someway.

This is ignorant- you are claiming the young guys are all cheating- is that you Randy?



No I dont hide behind a screen name. My name is Barrett. Im claiming the young guys are getting info.

Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Lone_Wolf] #15342290 02/26/25 08:26 PM
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No more commie johnston cheaters on st lawrence, no more lee livesay on fork, no more swindle,howell,or the countless others on gville. How about murray? How many live around it? Is brandon lester close enough to knoxville to get dq’d from classic?

Piss on bass and it’s dei tournament director!


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Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Lone_Wolf] #15342292 02/26/25 08:29 PM
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Say what u will about Scott Martin… but that’s how a man handles his bidness. Herron could learn a thing or two from ole Scooter.


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Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Lone_Wolf] #15342305 02/26/25 08:45 PM
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I think when B.A.S.S. got drug by the olds last year for trying to remove the no info rule B.A.S.S. decided to go scorched earth no exemption to the rule.

Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Barrett] #15342309 02/26/25 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrett
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DO AWAY WITH THE NO INFO RULE. Everybody and their dog knows the young cats are all getting information thats how they are able to compete bodies of water so large it takes more years than they have been alive to be competitive and learn. Its damn near impossible to not break this rule... just do away with it. They all break it. Every single of one of them somehow someway.

This is ignorant- you are claiming the young guys are all cheating- is that you Randy?



No I dont hide behind a screen name. My name is Barrett. Im claiming the young guys are getting info.


They don't need to get info. They pre-practice and stand on the trolling motor for days at a time with livescope

Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Tx Tree Grower] #15342315 02/26/25 08:55 PM
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Which is what should have happened last week. The angler should have fessed up before hand.




This doesn't pass the smell test either. So the tournament isn't here yet. He reported it before the tournament......Soooo why is it a DQ? So either the rule is way to restrictive or ol Scott is fudging the truth about what really happened. Which one is it? I just don't see how dock talk falls under the no info rule when you don't engage in it. I would assume everyone that has ever fished any number of tournaments has had something similar to this happen. In the tackle store, at the cafe, hell even passing by a dock on the lake and someone starts talking about a fish they caught yesterday. It's literally unavoidable at times. My guess is there is more to the story. If not these guys better go into isolation 30 days before every tournament.




Explain what doesn't pass a "smell test" with Martin? It seems self explanatory,

"Martin admitted to having a conversation with a local angler about conditions at certain locations on Lake Okeechobee after the no information period was in effect. Due to the infraction, Martin has been disqualified from the 2025 Champion Power Equipment Bassmaster Elite on Lake Okeechobee and has been assessed a fine."


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Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Lone_Wolf] #15342317 02/26/25 08:57 PM
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Why are they fining Scott Martin when he self-reported it, and before the event? The DQ is harsh enough. I understand a fine if you don't self-report, but this is where they start to lose me. He did everything the right way and the penalty is the same as if he got popped on a polygraph after the tournament. They are incentivizing guys to not self-report and take a chance at not getting caught.

Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Lone_Wolf] #15342320 02/26/25 09:01 PM
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Maybe scott isn’t commie enough to fit bassmaster’s dei practices?


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Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: buda13] #15342321 02/26/25 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by buda13
Say what u will about Scott Martin… but that’s how a man handles his bidness. Herron could learn a thing or two from ole Scooter.


He admitted to it, owned it, and took his lumps. He'll be back better than ever.

One thing, according to his video, if I misheard this please let me know, he stated it happened this week and he reported it shortly after.

Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Douglas J] #15342323 02/26/25 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Douglas J
Originally Posted by Tx Tree Grower
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Originally Posted by Mark Perry

Which is what should have happened last week. The angler should have fessed up before hand.




This doesn't pass the smell test either. So the tournament isn't here yet. He reported it before the tournament......Soooo why is it a DQ? So either the rule is way to restrictive or ol Scott is fudging the truth about what really happened. Which one is it? I just don't see how dock talk falls under the no info rule when you don't engage in it. I would assume everyone that has ever fished any number of tournaments has had something similar to this happen. In the tackle store, at the cafe, hell even passing by a dock on the lake and someone starts talking about a fish they caught yesterday. It's literally unavoidable at times. My guess is there is more to the story. If not these guys better go into isolation 30 days before every tournament.




Explain what doesn't pass a "smell test" with Martin? It seems self explanatory,

"Martin admitted to having a conversation with a local angler about conditions at certain locations on Lake Okeechobee after the no information period was in effect. Due to the infraction, Martin has been disqualified from the 2025 Champion Power Equipment Bassmaster Elite on Lake Okeechobee and has been assessed a fine."


I think there is a difference between “dock talk” and “DOCK TALK”. Sure someone might ask them how they fishing was, or how it went. Its another thing to let the conversation continue and start talking about which creek has the best grass, locations of good fresh brush piles, or something else more detailed then just the run of the mill vague talk.

Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Lone_Wolf] #15342332 02/26/25 09:18 PM
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If I was Scott I would be first one on water and hole jumping like a bandit.


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Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Lone_Wolf] #15342343 02/26/25 09:26 PM
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Looks like bass is going to have to clear the record books. kvd’s wins most certainly were due to information, like anyone else who won consistently including Roland.


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Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Mulejockey1] #15342360 02/26/25 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulejockey1
Looks like bass is going to have to clear the record books. kvd’s wins most certainly were due to information, like anyone else who won consistently including Roland.


This is how I see it. All of them benefited from info and still do.

It doesn’t give anyone that big of an advantage. If it did, they would have won every event not just most of the events, haha

Re: Elite series DQ St. Johns 2025 [Re: Lone_Wolf] #15342370 02/26/25 09:52 PM
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IMHO BASS needs to call up both Herren and Scott martin,,apologize for overreacting and reinstate them...redo the rules to where you have to ask for fishing info about a lake within 30 days of the tourny to be disqualified....

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