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Re: Colony Ridge Update [Re: nfhbass] #15342298 02/26/25 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nfhbass
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There were several anglo - operated lawn services where I worked. The libs just don't want you to know about that; they get confused when confronted by the truth.


That was my point, white guys will happily ride around on a riding lawn mower. That’s easy work.

No one is doing their due diligence to ensure they aren’t hiring an illegal migrant. If you need weeds pulled, and you see a sign for someone advertising to pull weeds, you are going to call them, make a deal, and they’re going to pull weeds if you hire them.

If they barely speak English and show up with a crew of 5 that don’t speak English you aren’t going to tell them to leave.

If they only take cash, you are going to pay cash, and the weeds are getting pulled.

You also aren’t a criminal if you paid them, and they were illegal. That’s ridiculous. Nobody is asking, nobody is telling, anywhere, this isn’t a left v right thing, it’s reality, many Mexicans are willing to
Do more for less, illegal or legal.


You are a criminal if you knowingly hire an illegal. Personally I believe you are a criminal if you believe you may be hiring an illegal.


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Originally Posted by Mulejockey1
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Originally Posted by Jim Ford
There were several anglo - operated lawn services where I worked. The libs just don't want you to know about that; they get confused when confronted by the truth.


That was my point, white guys will happily ride around on a riding lawn mower. That’s easy work.

No one is doing their due diligence to ensure they aren’t hiring an illegal migrant. If you need weeds pulled, and you see a sign for someone advertising to pull weeds, you are going to call them, make a deal, and they’re going to pull weeds if you hire them.

If they barely speak English and show up with a crew of 5 that don’t speak English you aren’t going to tell them to leave.

If they only take cash, you are going to pay cash, and the weeds are getting pulled.

You also aren’t a criminal if you paid them, and they were illegal. That’s ridiculous. Nobody is asking, nobody is telling, anywhere, this isn’t a left v right thing, it’s reality, many Mexicans are willing to
Do more for less, illegal or legal.


You are a criminal if you knowingly hire an illegal. Personally I believe you are a criminal if you believe you may be hiring an illegal.


And how would you know? I don’t think illegal migrant workers are advertising that they’re illegally here.

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Yes; but it is a significant factor establishing Texas as the second highest GDP revenue generating state in the nation…..and not the other southern states. Mississippi and Arkansas are at the very bottom of per capita GDP generation in the USA.


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Originally Posted by nfhbass
Originally Posted by Mulejockey1
Originally Posted by nfhbass
Originally Posted by Jim Ford
There were several anglo - operated lawn services where I worked. The libs just don't want you to know about that; they get confused when confronted by the truth.


That was my point, white guys will happily ride around on a riding lawn mower. That’s easy work.

No one is doing their due diligence to ensure they aren’t hiring an illegal migrant. If you need weeds pulled, and you see a sign for someone advertising to pull weeds, you are going to call them, make a deal, and they’re going to pull weeds if you hire them.

If they barely speak English and show up with a crew of 5 that don’t speak English you aren’t going to tell them to leave.

If they only take cash, you are going to pay cash, and the weeds are getting pulled.

You also aren’t a criminal if you paid them, and they were illegal. That’s ridiculous. Nobody is asking, nobody is telling, anywhere, this isn’t a left v right thing, it’s reality, many Mexicans are willing to
Do more for less, illegal or legal.


You are a criminal if you knowingly hire an illegal. Personally I believe you are a criminal if you believe you may be hiring an illegal.


And how would you know? I don’t think illegal migrant workers are advertising that they’re illegally here.


^ I would never asked anyone if they were illegal. But true story my mother in law was an illegal alien that had been in the US 40 years when I knew her. My circa 1990 girlfriend was an illegal from Brazil as were her two daughters. They eventually all became citizens.

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Originally Posted by Mulejockey1
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I know many here like to hire or enslave them, may want to check and see if their registration is up to date in the future flag


Them Illegals are making same wages or more than legals in the trades.

lol, no they are not. Why should they be? I love hearing people talk about the quality of work from illegals roflmao. Automatically tells you they don’t know what they are talking about. Their lack of craftsmanship shows in every job they do, remember, you get what you pay for.


I have known hundreds of them working on construction jobs, they get paid same pay or more you would pay legal person. You think they are working for pennies on the dollars then you are lost and don't know what you are talking about.

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Maybe they work with less complaints, fewer benefits, the shift hours others don’t want, and with less of a burden on workers comp claims?

The answer tends to be follow the money.

If the payroll money is the same or higher; there are other costs that are significantly less.



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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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I know many here like to hire or enslave them, may want to check and see if their registration is up to date in the future flag


Them Illegals are making same wages or more than legals in the trades.

lol, no they are not. Why should they be? I love hearing people talk about the quality of work from illegals roflmao. Automatically tells you they don’t know what they are talking about. Their lack of craftsmanship shows in every job they do, remember, you get what you pay for.


I have known hundreds of them working on construction jobs, they get paid same pay or more you would pay legal person. You think they are working for pennies on the dollars then you are lost and don't know what you are talking about.

I have been in my field for over 36 yrs, I know exactly what I’m talking about! It takes two of them to make the equivalent of one American worker. You are telling me they are getting same wages for low skill? Maybe it is you who have no idea what you are talking about.


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Originally Posted by nfhbass
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Originally Posted by nfhbass
Originally Posted by Jim Ford
There were several anglo - operated lawn services where I worked. The libs just don't want you to know about that; they get confused when confronted by the truth.


That was my point, white guys will happily ride around on a riding lawn mower. That’s easy work.

No one is doing their due diligence to ensure they aren’t hiring an illegal migrant. If you need weeds pulled, and you see a sign for someone advertising to pull weeds, you are going to call them, make a deal, and they’re going to pull weeds if you hire them.

If they barely speak English and show up with a crew of 5 that don’t speak English you aren’t going to tell them to leave.

If they only take cash, you are going to pay cash, and the weeds are getting pulled.

You also aren’t a criminal if you paid them, and they were illegal. That’s ridiculous. Nobody is asking, nobody is telling, anywhere, this isn’t a left v right thing, it’s reality, many Mexicans are willing to
Do more for less, illegal or legal.


You are a criminal if you knowingly hire an illegal. Personally I believe you are a criminal if you believe you may be hiring an illegal.


And how would you know? I don’t think illegal migrant workers are advertising that they’re illegally here.


They don't have a Social Security # is the first way you know. Social Security Administration uses SAVE System from USCIS to check the immigration status of any one who applies. Just like the Texas DPS uses same Federal Government system to check for Immigration status if any one applies for a State ID or Texas Driver Licenses. That is why illegals can't get valid DL in Texas.

They can get a ITIN # from IRS, it has the same # of digits as a Social Security # but the first # starts with a "9".

Mexican Embassy in Dallas will issue them a Government Issued ID Card and they can start working at many places.


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Originally Posted by CCTX
Maybe they work with less complaints, fewer benefits, the shift hours others don’t want, and with less of a burden on workers comp claims?

The answer tends to be follow the money.

If the payroll money is the same or higher; there are other costs that are significantly less.



Correct.

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Originally Posted by CCTX
Maybe they work with less complaints and with less of a burden on workers comp claims?

The answer tends to be follow the money.

If the payroll money is the same or higher; there are other costs that are significantly less.


It is not even close to being the same. Why would anyone pay same rate for low skilled compared to skilled/highly skilled? Everyone knows they are not paid equally, do not pay taxes unless they are drawing welfare like those on work visas, and they send most of their money home therefore hurting our economy. The people who hire them knows exactly why they hire them, it dang sure isn’t for professional results!


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I always ask everyone what their legal status is before every transaction...

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So what happens when an illegal gets hurt or even killed while working for someone? Do the other illegals just drag them off into a ditch somewhere? I mean if they are illegal I’m sure they are not insured, what happens if they destroy your house?


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Originally Posted by Mulejockey1
Originally Posted by CCTX
Maybe they work with less complaints and with less of a burden on workers comp claims?

The answer tends to be follow the money.

If the payroll money is the same or higher; there are other costs that are significantly less.


It is not even close to being the same. Why would anyone pay same rate for low skilled compared to skilled/highly skilled? Everyone knows they are not paid equally, do not pay taxes unless they are drawing welfare like those on work visas, and they send most of their money home therefore hurting our economy. The people who hire them knows exactly why they hire them, it dang sure isn’t for professional results!


That’s just it. It’s not skilled labor that many hire whoever for. Pulling weeds, mowing grass, clearing brush out of an overgrown fence line, pressure washing your driveway. All sorts of chore type work can be done by unskilled labor.

Nobody I know is asking for social security numbers for an unskilled labor job to get done. If a fence is being built, maybe 5 guys show up, 1 legal, 4 illegal. Cash is paid, fence is built, done. Done cheaper.

I wouldn’t hire just anyone to build a house and I do all of the chores around my places myself. But in 30 years I’ll probably hire it done, and I won’t be asking for a social security number, I’ll be asking for a price.

And in 30 years there will be illegal unskilled laborers here, just like there has been for decades.

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So what happens when an illegal gets hurt or even killed while working for someone? Do the other illegals just drag them off into a ditch somewhere? I mean if they are illegal I’m sure they are not insured, what happens if they destroy your house?

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Originally Posted by nfhbass
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Maybe they work with less complaints and with less of a burden on workers comp claims?

The answer tends to be follow the money.

If the payroll money is the same or higher; there are other costs that are significantly less.


It is not even close to being the same. Why would anyone pay same rate for low skilled compared to skilled/highly skilled? Everyone knows they are not paid equally, do not pay taxes unless they are drawing welfare like those on work visas, and they send most of their money home therefore hurting our economy. The people who hire them knows exactly why they hire them, it dang sure isn’t for professional results!


That’s just it. It’s not skilled labor that many hire whoever for. Pulling weeds, mowing grass, clearing brush out of an overgrown fence line, pressure washing your driveway. All sorts of chore type work can be done by unskilled labor.

Nobody I know is asking for social security numbers for an unskilled labor job to get done. If a fence is being built, maybe 5 guys show up, 1 legal, 4 illegal. Cash is paid, fence is built, done. Done cheaper.

I wouldn’t hire just anyone to build a house and I do all of the chores around my places myself. But in 30 years I’ll probably hire it done, and I won’t be asking for a social security number, I’ll be asking for a price.

And in 30 years there will be illegal unskilled laborers here, just like there has been for decades.

Ok, we are talking about two different things. I’m talking about commercial businesses not something that any random middle school or high school student would be happy to do.


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