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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: rickys]
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02/04/25 09:09 PM
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Lone_Wolf
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I honestly can't think of anything I have purchased that I saw a pro using or promoting somewhat recently. Youtube sways my purchasing more than anything these days. I honestly don't see any value sponsoring a "PRO" in fishing unless they have a really big social media presence, and most don't. PRO's living off sponsorship money is going to be a thing of the past soon I believe. PRO's will be kids being paid by their mommy's and daddy's. That's where it's headed, and I'm good with that.
I thought about buying some Spro rock crawlers after hearing them being talked up on a podcast recently, but after looking at some I was out. Just pattern them after some of the old wiggle wart colors and I would be all in, I don't like the way the finish on those things looked at all.
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: Lone_Wolf]
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02/04/25 10:35 PM
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tmd11111
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I honestly can't think of anything I have purchased that I saw a pro using or promoting somewhat recently. Youtube sways my purchasing more than anything these days. I honestly don't see any value sponsoring a "PRO" in fishing unless they have a really big social media presence, and most don't. PRO's living off sponsorship money is going to be a thing of the past soon I believe. PRO's will be kids being paid by their mommy's and daddy's. That's where it's headed, and I'm good with that.
I thought about buying some Spro rock crawlers after hearing them being talked up on a podcast recently, but after looking at some I was out. Just pattern them after some of the old wiggle wart colors and I would be all in, I don't like the way the finish on those things looked at all. Spro's Rock Crawlers are legit.
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: nfhbass]
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02/05/25 02:50 AM
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petro
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Petro, you aren’t influenced in any way? You don’t read a fishing magazine, articles online, anything?
There is a pile of good information available on YouTube that isn’t junk, you should check it out.
Nope. I get all my info and baits from Mark Perry.
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: petro]
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02/05/25 03:24 AM
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nfhbass
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Petro, you aren’t influenced in any way? You don’t read a fishing magazine, articles online, anything?
There is a pile of good information available on YouTube that isn’t junk, you should check it out.
Nope. I get all my info and baits from Mark Perry. Haha, that’s who influences you
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: petro]
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02/05/25 03:57 AM
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Mark Perry
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Petro, you aren’t influenced in any way? You don’t read a fishing magazine, articles online, anything?
There is a pile of good information available on YouTube that isn’t junk, you should check it out.
Nope. I get all my info and baits from Mark Perry. Thank goodness you never listen to me. You just catch them Saturday and I'll be the net man.... 
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: Mark Perry]
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02/05/25 12:06 PM
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petro
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Petro, you aren’t influenced in any way? You don’t read a fishing magazine, articles online, anything?
There is a pile of good information available on YouTube that isn’t junk, you should check it out.
Nope. I get all my info and baits from Mark Perry. Thank goodness you never listen to me. You just catch them Saturday and I'll be the net man....  Lol! I’m sure we’ll both catch them good Saturday. Youtube not needed.
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: beartrap]
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02/05/25 12:38 PM
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ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
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I don't figure it will ever go away; probably in it's current form, YES. Make the field fit the money; as some folks on here have pointed to, yes I'd think that for sure. It's never been a game where someone could make a living just on winnings alone with maybe the exception of the handful that have won the Bassmasters Classic. Agree that all participants will have to be really good at marketing; not just the products they represent, but themselves as well. Had to add something: I just wondered if the sanctioning bodies need to set things up kind of like NASCAR and have teams that pull in the sponsorships and those teams go out a recruit the best fishermen so you get the best, not someone with deep pockets necessarily.
Last edited by ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50); 02/05/25 01:05 PM.
2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: beartrap]
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02/05/25 01:18 PM
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BMCD
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very rarely do i buy a bait what i watch on you tube, Maybe <1% of the time. So if they get those results over 1million views. that id 5 to 10k sales of a bait.
Funny Bassmaster, Toyota series, BPT, if you read there top baits from the report. then go to tackle warehouse they will be sold out.
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: Mark Perry]
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02/05/25 02:16 PM
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Jeeper92
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Will have to give that a listen but when they say the numbers are down...is that from covid high numbers or is that from 2019? Covid was a boon to the sport and really wasn't sustainable. You force people not to travel, play lots of sports, do things indoors...things like fishing/golf are going to spike.
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: Jeeper92]
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02/05/25 02:40 PM
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Mark Perry
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Will have to give that a listen but when they say the numbers are down...is that from covid high numbers or is that from 2019? Covid was a boon to the sport and really wasn't sustainable. You force people not to travel, play lots of sports, do things indoors...things like fishing/golf are going to spike. Numbers have been trending down minus COVID for 20 years. They use real numbers from credible sources to show it.
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: beartrap]
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02/13/25 12:40 AM
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Lone_Wolf
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Good post by NPFL, I hope they suceed,
Story by Brad Fuller | Photos by Tanner & Travis Lyons
Let’s cut through the noise. The professional fishing industry is at a crossroads, and whether we like it or not, the decisions being made today will define the sport for generations to come. Too many people are tiptoeing around hard truths, afraid to upset sponsors, organizations, or the loudest voices in the room. But here at the NPFL, we’re not afraid to ruffle some feathers. So, let’s get real about the state of our sport.
The Death of Pure Competition
Somewhere along the way, professional fishing lost sight of its roots. The days of showing up with a handful of rods, a gut instinct, and a will to win are fading into history. In its place? A technological arms race that’s not just reshaping competition—it’s threatening to gut it entirely.
There’s a hard truth nobody wants to admit: if you strip away all the tech and all the “innovations,” how many of today’s anglers would still be able to compete at the highest level?
The NPFL took a stand by banning forward-facing sonar, not because we’re anti-technology, but because we believe in preserving the essence of competition. Anglers should win based on skill, decision-making, and experience—not who has the deepest pockets or the best electronics engineer in their corner.
At its core, professional bass fishing should be simple: who can go out and catch the biggest five bass? That’s the foundation of the sport, and that’s what fans connect with. The excitement of watching a pro angler grind it out, make key adjustments, and rely on his or her instincts to land the right fish—that’s what keeps the sport authentic and compelling. The more we move away from that, the more we risk losing what makes bass fishing great.
Chasing the Money … and Losing the Soul
Let’s talk about another reality: sponsors in this industry have been dealt a raw hand from all sides. Any major sponsor of any tour struggles to get the return on investment they truly deserve based on the money they’re spending. That’s not just unfortunate—it’s a fundamental reason why this industry has difficulty keeping non-endemic sponsors happy for long. There are exceptions, but many of those relationships have endured because of personal connections between anglers and sponsors more than the leagues themselves fostering strong partnerships.
We know this because we’ve sat in the rooms, heard the stories, and seen firsthand how sponsors have been burned. The NPFL isn’t here to fix every wrong of the past, but we are willing to turn over the first rock or two and start pushing for a better way forward.
Fishing should be about the anglers, the fans, and the thrill of competition. But too often, decisions are being made in boardrooms instead of on weigh-in stages. When tournament formats and rule changes are dictated by what’s most profitable instead of what’s best for the sport, we all lose.
At the NPFL, we built this league with a different philosophy: anglers first. We believe the integrity of the sport comes before corporate interests. If that means bucking industry trends, so be it. We don’t exist to please everyone—we exist to do what’s right for the future of professional fishing.
Fans Deserve Better
Professional bass fishing doesn’t exist without fans. They keep the sport alive, and right now, they’re getting a watered-down version of what fishing should be.
Our job isn’t to dumb down professional fishing to make it more “marketable.” It’s to make professional fishing something worth watching. That means unpredictable competition, high-level execution, and the raw, unscripted drama that only this sport can deliver.
Where We Go From Here
The NPFL was not built to follow. We were built to do what we feel is right. If, for whatever reason, that gets us tagged as leaders, then so be it. Leading means making tough calls, standing by them, and pushing forward no matter how many people tell us we’re wrong.
Look, we aren’t for everyone—that’s what makes all this fun and interesting. You can watch to bring your hate or you can watch to bring your love—as long as you’re watching, that’s all we care about.
Hell, in my opinion, it might very well be the thing that brings all this crashing down. And you know what? That’s okay. I’d rather go down doing things the way they were supposed to be done than cave into the “that’s the way we’ve always done it” rut. I’m not for that, and you shouldn’t be either.
We have drawn the first proverbial line in the sand with the FFS ban. Now we just go be ourselves, let nature take its course, and let the chips fall where they may. If we win, then great. If we lose … well, we regroup and figure it out.
The truth is, professional fishing is at a breaking point. Either we double down on preserving competition, integrity, and the pure thrill of the sport, or we continue down a path where it becomes nothing more than a technology showcase and a corporate playground.
We know where we stand. Do you?
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: beartrap]
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02/13/25 01:09 AM
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grout-scout
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The days of showing up with a handful of rods, a gut instinct, and a will to win are fading into history. In its place? A technological arms race that’s not just reshaping competition—it’s threatening to gut it entirely.
There’s a hard truth nobody wants to admit: if you strip away all the tech and all the “innovations,” Let me get this right. They still allow mega 360 and giant graphs, spot locking trolling motors, power poles and high definition mapping; but they want “gut instinct”. 
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: beartrap]
#15330893
02/13/25 01:14 AM
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Tiltman
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I beg to differ, Professional fishing does exist without fans……it’s called entry fees
They are all professional gamblers nothing more. There cards are just much more expensive
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Re: if professional fishing goes away?
[Re: beartrap]
#15330913
02/13/25 01:27 AM
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WAWI
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So we are saying that all this grow the sport that has crowded the lakes with booger eaters has amounted to nothing
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