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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
[Re: SteezMacQueen]
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McCarthy should stay. He’s got it made here. Yeah, if you don't mind being Jerry's whipping boy, not a bad place to be.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
[Re: CrazyCrappieGuy]
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01/09/25 08:38 PM
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Actually whipping boy is not the right words. Jerry is not a mean guy. He just needs his ego stroked. As a HC, if you want to be effective here, you got to have the confidence to let Jerry be in the limelight and have enough charisma and skins on the wall to over come Jerry to take command of the locker room and establish the right culture.
The Tuna was the only one that could do it. He let Jerry have all the limelight he wanted, but all the players knew who the boss was, and Parcels drove the right culture, made rookies were helmets with no star, and made them fetch him water. But Jerry eventually drove Parcels crazy, he couldn't take it any more.
Jerry is the only GM to have press conference after every game, many times at the same time as the HC, and the reporters feel the need to go to Jerry's. That was the final straw with Jimmy, when Jerry started doing press conferences and saying stuff that the HC should be saying. No amount of money would have kept Jimmy here.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
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01/09/25 08:40 PM
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Mark Perry
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McCarthy should stay. He’s got it made here. Yep. Mediocrity is rewarded and celebrated here by Jerry.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
[Re: Quillback]
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01/09/25 09:36 PM
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Stay - there’s something to be said about continuity at the head coaching level IMHO.
I think I’m the only one in this group that believes if Jerry could write a check for a championship, he would. In other words, he cares about winning, he knows how to win in sports and life and business, he just hasn’t put the correct chess pieces together and made the right moves with them to get over that hump with his football team.
Change the coordinators possibly but give McCarthy another 3 yrs. He’ll get them to a NFC championship game. I agree with all of that. But the problem with Jerry is his leadership, undermining the HC, the glitz culture he has created…. There are GM roles he does very well I think, like managing the cap, the draft…. The cowboys have ranked #1 or #2 in pro bowlers drafted for years now, he stacks the team with talent. Many fail to realize that. https://www.nfl.com/news/dallas-cow...-bowlers-in-last-decade-0ap3000000498924https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...f-pro-bowlers-drafted-over-last-10-yearshttps://www.nfl.com/photos/active-gms-with-best-record-of-drafting-pro-bowlers-0ap3000000481490No telling how many super bowls cowboys would have won if he changed his leadership style, Jimmy would have stayed, and top HCs would be lining up to work for him. All it takes is money and he can get about any coach he wants, same as the players, they all go for the most money, I like a lot of things about Jerry but being the GM of this team is not one of them, he is better suited to just sit up in his suite and have him a bottle of Johnny Walker. I do not believe Will McClay or Stephen are the answer either, although they should share as much of the blame as Jerry, they are all heavily involved with the draft and free agents, but it does all start at the top. There are salary restrictions when it comes to players. If there were not, It would not surprise me to see Jerry spend more on player salaries than just about anyone. One of his problems is trying to manage players under salary cap restrictions, Dak's signing is one glaring example of that, if you overpay for a few players, it leaves you less to dole out to the other players. I meant the free agent players all go to the highest bidders, very few take less money to stay on a team, the head coaches are pretty much the same, if a team is going to pay a coach 3-5 million more a year then that coach is going to take the money, do you blame them ? I sure don't.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
[Re: Quillback]
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01/09/25 09:41 PM
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Stay - there’s something to be said about continuity at the head coaching level IMHO.
I think I’m the only one in this group that believes if Jerry could write a check for a championship, he would. In other words, he cares about winning, he knows how to win in sports and life and business, he just hasn’t put the correct chess pieces together and made the right moves with them to get over that hump with his football team.
Change the coordinators possibly but give McCarthy another 3 yrs. He’ll get them to a NFC championship game. I agree with all of that. But the problem with Jerry is his leadership, undermining the HC, the glitz culture he has created…. There are GM roles he does very well I think, like managing the cap, the draft…. The cowboys have ranked #1 or #2 in pro bowlers drafted for years now, he stacks the team with talent. Many fail to realize that. https://www.nfl.com/news/dallas-cow...-bowlers-in-last-decade-0ap3000000498924https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...f-pro-bowlers-drafted-over-last-10-yearshttps://www.nfl.com/photos/active-gms-with-best-record-of-drafting-pro-bowlers-0ap3000000481490No telling how many super bowls cowboys would have won if he changed his leadership style, Jimmy would have stayed, and top HCs would be lining up to work for him. All it takes is money and he can get about any coach he wants, same as the players, they all go for the most money, I like a lot of things about Jerry but being the GM of this team is not one of them, he is better suited to just sit up in his suite and have him a bottle of Johnny Walker. I do not believe Will McClay or Stephen are the answer either, although they should share as much of the blame as Jerry, they are all heavily involved with the draft and free agents, but it does all start at the top. There are salary restrictions when it comes to players. If there were not, It would not surprise me to see Jerry spend more on player salaries than just about anyone. And that is exactly what Jerry did in the early 90's, many will say that is how he won those super bowls. Even Jerry knew he could not help himself, would out spend everyone, to the point of not being profitable, so he invented the salary cap. After he won his super bowls. Genius.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
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01/10/25 12:51 AM
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Mike built his three 12-4 records in a row largely on the fact that the Giants and Commanders were horrible during that time. That is four easy wins a year for a slightly above average team.
The Cowboys are the most penalized team in the last five years.
Mike is the play caller, all year they were one of the worst at scoring in the red zone.
He rarely schemes a receiver open with his vanilla offense, very little creativity.
He isn't a bad coach but he is not a real good one either. One Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers and now that offensive scheme is stale.
At minimum Dallas needs a new offensive coordinator. However we all know the chances for great success are extremely low as long as Dak is the qb and Jerry refuses to use free agency in any meaningful fashion. Not to mention Jerruh period. What a pathetic GM.....him bringing back Zeke says it all.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
[Re: cali kid]
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01/10/25 02:17 AM
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Mike built his three 12-4 records in a row largely on the fact that the Giants and Commanders were horrible during that time. That is four easy wins a year for a slightly above average team.
The Cowboys are the most penalized team in the last five years.
Mike is the play caller, all year they were one of the worst at scoring in the red zone.
He rarely schemes a receiver open with his vanilla offense, very little creativity.
He isn't a bad coach but he is not a real good one either. One Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers and now that offensive scheme is stale.
At minimum Dallas needs a new offensive coordinator. However we all know the chances for great success are extremely low as long as Dak is the qb and Jerry refuses to use free agency in any meaningful fashion. Not to mention Jerruh period. What a pathetic GM.....him bringing back Zeke says it all. With a bad O line and no QB I do not think the play caller matters much.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
[Re: Happykamper]
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01/10/25 02:24 AM
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Mike built his three 12-4 records in a row largely on the fact that the Giants and Commanders were horrible during that time. That is four easy wins a year for a slightly above average team.
The Cowboys are the most penalized team in the last five years.
Mike is the play caller, all year they were one of the worst at scoring in the red zone.
He rarely schemes a receiver open with his vanilla offense, very little creativity.
He isn't a bad coach but he is not a real good one either. One Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers and now that offensive scheme is stale.
At minimum Dallas needs a new offensive coordinator. However we all know the chances for great success are extremely low as long as Dak is the qb and Jerry refuses to use free agency in any meaningful fashion. Not to mention Jerruh period. What a pathetic GM.....him bringing back Zeke says it all. With a bad O line and no QB I do not think the play caller matters much. 100 % on Jerruh
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
[Re: cali kid]
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01/10/25 01:49 PM
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Mike built his three 12-4 records in a row largely on the fact that the Giants and Commanders were horrible during that time. That is four easy wins a year for a slightly above average team.
Not really. Maybe you are stuck in the past when the NFC East was called the NFC Least? They turned to the NFC Beast during this time. The NFC East had the most wins in the NFC for the 3 seasons Cowboys won 12 games, 108.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
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01/10/25 03:56 PM
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Mike built his three 12-4 records in a row largely on the fact that the Giants and Commanders were horrible during that time. That is four easy wins a year for a slightly above average team.
The Cowboys are the most penalized team in the last five years.
Mike is the play caller, all year they were one of the worst at scoring in the red zone.
He rarely schemes a receiver open with his vanilla offense, very little creativity.
He isn't a bad coach but he is not a real good one either. One Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers and now that offensive scheme is stale.
At minimum Dallas needs a new offensive coordinator. However we all know the chances for great success are extremely low as long as Dak is the qb and Jerry refuses to use free agency in any meaningful fashion. Not to mention Jerruh period. What a pathetic GM.....him bringing back Zeke says it all. With a bad O line and no QB I do not think the play caller matters much. No QB? You mean not a top 5 QB? So if we don’t have a top 5 QB, let’s just give up, release Dak, tank to get top draft picks every season and start drafting QB’s as #1 draft pick every season till we find a top 5 QB. That’s the Patriot GM strategy, also the Cleveland strategy. Tank to get top draft picks, that is a great winning culture we should go to. 
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
[Re: CrazyCrappieGuy]
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01/10/25 04:02 PM
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I don't care one little bit who runs the show. All I want is for them to humiliate the Redskins every year. Don't hate the players, it's the scumbag folks who live there and support them.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
[Re: CrazyCrappieGuy]
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01/10/25 04:15 PM
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Let him stay and get shed of Shottenheimer.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
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01/10/25 05:27 PM
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Mark Perry
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Still no negotiations one way or the other. This is such a clown show. I'm sure if they give him a new deal Jerry will try to steal a little thunder from the playoff games and announce it at halftime etc. Sad what that team and the way it's ran has become. Fans should get better than what they get from this owner. https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...ected-open-talks-new-contract-today-stay
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
[Re: CrazyCrappieGuy]
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01/10/25 05:47 PM
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My money says they have agreed that Mike will be the coach awhile back, they are just ironing out the details, I doubt the money is the big item, I bet Mike wants a few changes on how things are done, just a guess.
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Re: McCarthy, should he stay or should he go?
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I think Jerry announces Deion as the new head coach on Saturday before the super bowl.
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