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Low fat vs low carb
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I've totally stalled and reached my limit of low carbing. Going to a low fat diet for a change. Sure is a different mindset.
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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I couldn't do either, that's why I do the Mediterranean diet. 33% protein, 33% carbs, 33% fats. I've kept the weight off for over a year. I can't exercise anymore due to the head injury and the resulting issues from that...which I miss more than I would have ever thought, but I've kept the weight off still by just counting my macros. I wish you well and hope it goes great for you. I'm proud of you for sticking with it!
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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Doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is calorie amount. It doesn't matter if you're eating nothing but bacon, zero carbs. Or if you're eating nothing but fruit. Low carb diet says you can eat any amount you want. As long as it's low carb. Which is a way for people to beat being hungry by eating a lot of low carb. I'm sorry but none of that works in the long run. The only thing, no matter what you eat, is calorie amount. You have to learn that being hungry is natural. When the body is hungry it means you're cleansing fat. Your body is purging toxins and sick cells. Being hungry is a natural state of being. You have to learn to cope with it. If you want to lose weight. Stop eating so much. Here's a calorie calculator. What'll it take to lose weight. What'll it take to maintain it. Because there's no other way around it, https://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.html
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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Doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is calorie amount. It doesn't matter if you're eating nothing but bacon, zero carbs. Or if you're eating nothing but fruit. Low carb diet says you can eat any amount you want. As long as it's low carb. Which is a way for people to beat being hungry by eating a lot of low carb. I'm sorry but none of that works in the long run. The only thing, no matter what you eat, is calorie amount. You have to learn that being hungry is natural. When the body is hungry it means you're cleansing fat. Your body is purging toxins and sick cells. Being hungry is a natural state of being. You have to learn to cope with it. If you want to lose weight. Stop eating so much. Here's a calorie calculator. What'll it take to lose weight. What'll it take to maintain it. Because there's no other way around it, https://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.htmlthats pretty good right there
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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I've totally stalled and reached my limit of low carbing. Going to a low fat diet for a change. Sure is a different mindset. if you can find it read Larry Norths book
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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11/15/24 03:57 AM
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Doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is calorie amount. It doesn't matter if you're eating nothing but bacon, zero carbs. Or if you're eating nothing but fruit. Low carb diet says you can eat any amount you want. As long as it's low carb. Which is a way for people to beat being hungry by eating a lot of low carb. I'm sorry but none of that works in the long run. The only thing, no matter what you eat, is calorie amount. You have to learn that being hungry is natural. When the body is hungry it means you're cleansing fat. Your body is purging toxins and sick cells. Being hungry is a natural state of being. You have to learn to cope with it. If you want to lose weight. Stop eating so much. Here's a calorie calculator. What'll it take to lose weight. What'll it take to maintain it. Because there's no other way around it, https://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.htmlYeah, no. I've lost 128 pounds and kept it off...while calorie count is part of it, for me paying attention to my macros is what truly mattered. Every person's physiological makeup is different and what works for some will not work for others.
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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11/17/24 02:02 AM
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when you say paying attention to your macro's --- can you elaborate ? Not sure I follow . congrats on losing so much weight --- must be a significant impact to your daily life Thanks
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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Doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is calorie amount. It doesn't matter if you're eating nothing but bacon, zero carbs. Or if you're eating nothing but fruit. Low carb diet says you can eat any amount you want. As long as it's low carb. Which is a way for people to beat being hungry by eating a lot of low carb. I'm sorry but none of that works in the long run. The only thing, no matter what you eat, is calorie amount. You have to learn that being hungry is natural. When the body is hungry it means you're cleansing fat. Your body is purging toxins and sick cells. Being hungry is a natural state of being. You have to learn to cope with it. If you want to lose weight. Stop eating so much. Here's a calorie calculator. What'll it take to lose weight. What'll it take to maintain it. Because there's no other way around it, https://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.htmlYeah, no. I've lost 128 pounds and kept it off...while calorie count is part of it, for me paying attention to my macros is what truly mattered. Every person's physiological makeup is different and what works for some will not work for others. You are both correct however if you do not burn more than you take in you will neve lose weight....regardless of macro counts. Too many people focus on the scale number rather than the inch loss. That number on the scale will play with your head if not careful. Judge success based on blood work, how you feel, and how your clothes fit.
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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when you say paying attention to your macro's --- can you elaborate ? Not sure I follow . congrats on losing so much weight --- must be a significant impact to your daily life Thanks Macronutrients. What the food you're eating actually consists of. So yeah you're getting 1000 calories, but what are they from? Fats? Proteins? Carbs? Every person's body will digest/use things differently. I do not function well on just high protein/low carb. I need a mixture and paying attention to what the food I ate was made of made all the difference.
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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when you say paying attention to your macro's --- can you elaborate ? Not sure I follow . congrats on losing so much weight --- must be a significant impact to your daily life Thanks Macronutrients. What the food you're eating actually consists of. So yeah you're getting 1000 calories, but what are they from? Fats? Proteins? Carbs? Every person's body will digest/use things differently. I do not function well on just high protein/low carb. I need a mixture and paying attention to what the food I ate was made of made all the difference. thanks --appreciate your explaining . My wife and I went to strictly whole foods ---nothing processed , nothing packaged , all organic , zero sugars . Our blood markers have greatly improved and the weight just melted off . I spend way too much time researching health topics --- get's overwhelming . But it's totally worth it
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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when you say paying attention to your macro's --- can you elaborate ? Not sure I follow . congrats on losing so much weight --- must be a significant impact to your daily life Thanks Macronutrients. What the food you're eating actually consists of. So yeah you're getting 1000 calories, but what are they from? Fats? Proteins? Carbs? Every person's body will digest/use things differently. I do not function well on just high protein/low carb. I need a mixture and paying attention to what the food I ate was made of made all the difference. Good fats are just as important too.
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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11/28/24 03:59 AM
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when you say paying attention to your macro's --- can you elaborate ? Not sure I follow . congrats on losing so much weight --- must be a significant impact to your daily life Thanks Macronutrients. What the food you're eating actually consists of. So yeah you're getting 1000 calories, but what are they from? Fats? Proteins? Carbs? Every person's body will digest/use things differently. I do not function well on just high protein/low carb. I need a mixture and paying attention to what the food I ate was made of made all the difference. Good fats are just as important too. Well, yeah, that's 33% of the food I eat. 33% protein, 33% carbs, 33% fats. I eat avocados, nuts, etc. for the fats.
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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I've lost 14 pounds in 4 weeks. Smaller amounts of food, and pretty much keto. I still eat plenty of veggies, just not much starchy stuff. NO ALCOHOL is about to kill me! But, being fat is just not an option. Bad knees and bad back can't handle 30 pounds around my gut! I cheated a little at Thanksgiving, but am back at it this weekend. 204 down to 190, headed to 175. [i][/i]
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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12/02/24 03:45 AM
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I've totally stalled and reached my limit of low carbing. Going to a low fat diet for a change. Sure is a different mindset. If you get a chance maybe ask your PCP if they can recommend a nutritionlist. Some insurance policies pay for it much like a yearly physical etc. Your health is way too important to trust to bro science. Respectfully some incorrect information has been shared on tbis thread. No two bodies are the same. It's not always a one size fits all approach. A calorie is not just a calorie. A nutritionist can work off your personal health history and get you on the right track.
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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12/02/24 07:16 PM
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I've totally stalled and reached my limit of low carbing. Going to a low fat diet for a change. Sure is a different mindset. If you get a chance maybe ask your PCP if they can recommend a nutritionlist. Some insurance policies pay for it much like a yearly physical etc. Your health is way too important to trust to bro science. Respectfully some incorrect information has been shared on tbis thread. No two bodies are the same. It's not always a one size fits all approach. A calorie is not just a calorie. A nutritionist can work off your personal health history and get you on the right track. true statement for sure . Go get a DEXA scan and find out where your fat is and what total % it is . If it's visceral fat ( around your organs ) --- you should do everything possible to lose it quickly . Best way to be healthy is for your organs to be functioning at a high level . I removed all sugars from my diet January 2024 , also , no fast starches ( pasta , rice , breads , cooked potatoes ) lost 13% of my total weight without even trying . The results are amazing to how I feel --- and I don't miss the sugars ( that took about 30 days )
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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12/02/24 10:03 PM
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Low fat is a myth, you need all the good fats you can get. I eat a load of good fat everyday, I weigh 206. All my blood work came back perfect and T levels are high. Read Genius Foods. It explains it better than I can. I eat 6 eggs a day and smother them in olive oil, eat at least one avacado a day if not two, and take fish oil.
I disagree on calories too, calories are stored energy, I eat probably 4,000 to 5000 calories a day but in a 6 hour window. Fasting between noon and 6 am. I do a 3 day fast every three months. as long as they are good calories and you do some form of excersize, you are good.
Most people make this way too complicated. Eat the way nature intended. Stay away from processed foods. Eat healthy, drink in moderation, drink lots of water. Its not really that hard. Fad diets will make you lose weight but it won't stay off.
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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12/02/24 10:56 PM
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I agree. And everyone is different and yet the same.
I routinely eat grease. I eat eggs and sausage every morning. For dinner, say, I cook ground beef. I use the 70/30 stuff. Once fried I add it to whole kernel corn with a some onions. The grease and all gets poured into the corn. Simmered a bit and served like that. Tonight is chicken thigh, skin on. I'll simmer it with a can of tomatoes. 1/8 cup white rice. It's a quick 30minute meal.
Dessert is a big fat Fugi apple and peanut butter. I'll eat 1/3rd a small jar with the fruit. I go through peanut butter quick. I'm the guy buying the biggest jar the store sells. I do treat myself. Ill add 4 chocolate covered malted milk balls to the dessert bowl.
And I myself never go past 2000 calories a day. That's my personal limit. I can't do take out anymore. Besides tasting synthetic. It'll make me sick.
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Low fat is a myth, you need all the good fats you can get. I eat a load of good fat everyday, I weigh 206. All my blood work came back perfect and T levels are high. Read Genius Foods. It explains it better than I can. I eat 6 eggs a day and smother them in olive oil, eat at least one avacado a day if not two, and take fish oil.
I disagree on calories too, calories are stored energy, I eat probably 4,000 to 5000 calories a day but in a 6 hour window. Fasting between noon and 6 am. I do a 3 day fast every three months. as long as they are good calories and you do some form of excersize, you are good.
Most people make this way too complicated. Eat the way nature intended. Stay away from processed foods. Eat healthy, drink in moderation, drink lots of water. Its not really that hard. Fad diets will make you lose weight but it won't stay off. 4-5k daily? What exercise and frequency? You are fortunate to apparently have a very high metabolism. I’m 6’3” 228, athletic and do 4x cardio weekly for a 600cal daily burn plus free weights twice a week. On average, I eat about 1700 net cal (anything I want) daily to currently maintain a 500 cal deficit - my maintenance is 2200. Today, for example: McD Sausage Biscuit (patty and bottom only) for breakfast; DQ extra crispy fries for lunch; apple snack; and Whataburger Spicy Chicken Sandwich (no sauce) after the gym; and 1/2 a healthy fiber bar about an hour before bed. Occasionally, a tablespoon of Jif…
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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I say low calories...low carbs and you fix it all together. When your body needs fuel pre or post workout..fuel it up.
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Low fat is a myth, you need all the good fats you can get. I eat a load of good fat everyday, I weigh 206. All my blood work came back perfect and T levels are high. Read Genius Foods. It explains it better than I can. I eat 6 eggs a day and smother them in olive oil, eat at least one avacado a day if not two, and take fish oil.
I disagree on calories too, calories are stored energy, I eat probably 4,000 to 5000 calories a day but in a 6 hour window. Fasting between noon and 6 am. I do a 3 day fast every three months. as long as they are good calories and you do some form of excersize, you are good.
Most people make this way too complicated. Eat the way nature intended. Stay away from processed foods. Eat healthy, drink in moderation, drink lots of water. Its not really that hard. Fad diets will make you lose weight but it won't stay off. 4-5k daily? What exercise and frequency? You are fortunate to apparently have a very high metabolism. I’m 6’3” 228, athletic and do 4x cardio weekly for a 600cal daily burn plus free weights twice a week. On average, I eat about 1700 net cal (anything I want) daily to currently maintain a 500 cal deficit - my maintenance is 2200. Today, for example: McD Sausage Biscuit (patty and bottom only) for breakfast; DQ extra crispy fries for lunch; apple snack; and Whataburger Spicy Chicken Sandwich (no sauce) after the gym; and 1/2 a healthy fiber bar about an hour before bed. Occasionally, a tablespoon of Jif… I lift 4 days a week and walk on Fridays. Ice bath twice a week. I'm not a big believer in "metabolism" per se.
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I've totally stalled and reached my limit of low carbing. Going to a low fat diet for a change. Sure is a different mindset. If you get a chance maybe ask your PCP if they can recommend a nutritionlist. Some insurance policies pay for it much like a yearly physical etc. Your health is way too important to trust to bro science. Respectfully some incorrect information has been shared on tbis thread. No two bodies are the same. It's not always a one size fits all approach. A calorie is not just a calorie. A nutritionist can work off your personal health history and get you on the right track. 100% but I would suggest a dietitian rather than a nutritionist. Most PCP's will refer to a dietitian rather than a Nutritionist. The difference in the State of Texas is licensure. 3rd party insurance will not pay for a nutritionist BUT there are some billing codes a dietitian can get reimbursed for. Anyone can get an online certificate and call themselves a 'Nutritionist'. Dietitians have the educational pedigree and state license to back it up. Science vs. marketing and lack of substance.
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Re: Low fat vs low carb
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I've totally stalled and reached my limit of low carbing. Going to a low fat diet for a change. Sure is a different mindset. If you get a chance maybe ask your PCP if they can recommend a nutritionlist. Some insurance policies pay for it much like a yearly physical etc. Your health is way too important to trust to bro science. Respectfully some incorrect information has been shared on tbis thread. No two bodies are the same. It's not always a one size fits all approach. A calorie is not just a calorie. A nutritionist can work off your personal health history and get you on the right track. true statement for sure . Go get a DEXA scan and find out where your fat is and what total % it is . If it's visceral fat ( around your organs ) --- you should do everything possible to lose it quickly . Best way to be healthy is for your organs to be functioning at a high level . I removed all sugars from my diet January 2024 , also , no fast starches ( pasta , rice , breads , cooked potatoes ) lost 13% of my total weight without even trying . The results are amazing to how I feel --- and I don't miss the sugars ( that took about 30 days ) THIS Working for a large company for many years I watched a lot of fat men and women on every kind of the fad diets you have ever ever heard of. Pretty much every one of them gained the weight back when they got off the diet if the year. The only one that works is the one you stay on as a lifestyle change. QUIT eating sugar and white processed food as Mark said . It is poison Eat all the fruit, veggies and meat as you want. Quit eating the wrong sheet
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