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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: Jpurdue]
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09/19/24 05:21 PM
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Pat Goff
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This region no longer plays any role of meaningful strategic significance to the US. It used to matter because the US needed to make sure that its allies with blue water navies had access to oil and gas out of Saudia Arbia. Notably Japan and parts of western Europe. All that changed because of the shale revolution. Not only can the US produce enough oil and gas for ourselves, but we can produce enough for our critical allies as well. The region simply doesn't matter to us anymore. We've shed enough blood and treasure over that desert waste land.
Israel is a sovereign country. They have every right to defend thems
elves. I support them defending themselves. I'm also happy to supply them with weapons, but as a wealthy country they can pay for it. That darn elusive truth. As long as your man loves at the EPA keep stalling the permits for the refineries to start changing over to process shale oil we are stuck importing heavy crude for fuel. Light sweet crude that comes out of our shale isn't great for making diesel or jet fuel, so yes, we import some heavy stuff from Canada and Mexico. Very little comes from the middle east these days and we can shut that spigot off anytime without missing a beat. I'm not well versed on the politics around permits for the refineries. My understanding has been they haven't been swapped over because most of them signed long term contracts with producer's. example: Shell in Deer Park with PEMEX in Mexico. In any case, the core point remains. The US and its core allies are no longer dependent on the middle east. Did you read doofuses book on how to be an online expert in all things you're clueless about? Did this information just "feel" right? And yet you spout it out like it's facts. Here's TODAY's ships between Galveston and Corpus, 60% are inbound tankers. Might be a good time to retract your bold statements. You might read something like it's facts, In the last month I've been in Exxon, Phillips, Valero and Marathon refineries. Who do you think would have a clue, some soy boy in New York or the guys making the product? Don't think too hard. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/HxZ7ngN/Screenshot-2024-09-19-at-12-15-56-Ship-Container-Tracking-Vessel-Finder.png)
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: uncle_bagster]
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09/20/24 03:14 AM
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Pat Goff
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Pat Goff Seadrift TX
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: uncle_bagster]
#15195999
09/20/24 10:30 AM
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Quillback
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: uncle_bagster]
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09/20/24 11:37 AM
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Stump jumper
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2200 Bay Champ/200 Mercury Optimax 2017 Tundra TSS 4x4 Crewmax 5.7L
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: Pat Goff]
#15196064
09/20/24 12:14 PM
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Jpurdue
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This region no longer plays any role of meaningful strategic significance to the US. It used to matter because the US needed to make sure that its allies with blue water navies had access to oil and gas out of Saudia Arbia. Notably Japan and parts of western Europe. All that changed because of the shale revolution. Not only can the US produce enough oil and gas for ourselves, but we can produce enough for our critical allies as well. The region simply doesn't matter to us anymore. We've shed enough blood and treasure over that desert waste land.
Israel is a sovereign country. They have every right to defend thems
elves. I support them defending themselves. I'm also happy to supply them with weapons, but as a wealthy country they can pay for it. That darn elusive truth. As long as your man loves at the EPA keep stalling the permits for the refineries to start changing over to process shale oil we are stuck importing heavy crude for fuel. Light sweet crude that comes out of our shale isn't great for making diesel or jet fuel, so yes, we import some heavy stuff from Canada and Mexico. Very little comes from the middle east these days and we can shut that spigot off anytime without missing a beat. I'm not well versed on the politics around permits for the refineries. My understanding has been they haven't been swapped over because most of them signed long term contracts with producer's. example: Shell in Deer Park with PEMEX in Mexico. In any case, the core point remains. The US and its core allies are no longer dependent on the middle east. Did you read doofuses book on how to be an online expert in all things you're clueless about? Did this information just "feel" right? And yet you spout it out like it's facts. Here's TODAY's ships between Galveston and Corpus, 60% are inbound tankers. Might be a good time to retract your bold statements. You might read something like it's facts, In the last month I've been in Exxon, Phillips, Valero and Marathon refineries. Who do you think would have a clue, some soy boy in New York or the guys making the product? Don't think too hard. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/HxZ7ngN/Screenshot-2024-09-19-at-12-15-56-Ship-Container-Tracking-Vessel-Finder.png) Okay Pat, tell me specifically what part of what I said is factually wrong. Like always you just vomit a bunch BS on the computer screen about how everyone else is wrong and you are right, but you never list a single fact to back it up. Most of our heavy crude imports do come from Cananda and Mexico. FACT. Very little comes from the middle east anymore. FACT. Your little chart of ships means nothing. Light crude is not ideal for jet and diesel fuel. FACT. https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.phpThe top five sources of U.S. crude oil imports by percentage share of U.S. total crude oil imports in 2022 were: Canada60% Mexico10% Saudi Arabia7% Iraq4% Colombia4%
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: uncle_bagster]
#15196080
09/20/24 12:34 PM
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WAWI
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They need to do something with the ear pods. Terrorist heads popping off would be great
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: uncle_bagster]
#15196109
09/20/24 12:54 PM
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Jaredk
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I’m excited to see the incoming meme
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: uncle_bagster]
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09/20/24 02:43 PM
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: Canino]
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09/20/24 04:13 PM
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Today’s events, where nearly 3,000 people were harmed by exploits causing lithium batteries to explode, highlight a disturbing reality and set a dangerous precedent that threatens everyone’s safety That has not been confirmed. These were new pagers, distributed within the past month, because their commanders were concerned about cell phone tracking. That leaves open the possibility that they contained some kind of small explosive charge - in short, they might have been rigged. Everyone knows most "hacking" starts with a good amount of social engineering. Besides that, what is the possibility that any hack on the batteries could reliably and consistently cause a violent explosion? Wouldn't many just fizz out or catch fire, especially since many would not be at 100% charge? Is a L-Ion battery at 25% charge going to explode like that? There don't seem to be any reports of anything but straight up detonations...at least not yet. This^
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: uncle_bagster]
#15196308
09/20/24 04:22 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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they were manufactured at a shell company run by the Isriel.
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
#15196530
09/20/24 08:07 PM
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ReelBusy
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And who is their service provider? A TNT
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: Pat Goff]
#15196612
09/20/24 10:15 PM
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Brian Spagnola
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This region no longer plays any role of meaningful strategic significance to the US. It used to matter because the US needed to make sure that its allies with blue water navies had access to oil and gas out of Saudia Arbia. Notably Japan and parts of western Europe. All that changed because of the shale revolution. Not only can the US produce enough oil and gas for ourselves, but we can produce enough for our critical allies as well. The region simply doesn't matter to us anymore. We've shed enough blood and treasure over that desert waste land.
Israel is a sovereign country. They have every right to defend thems
elves. I support them defending themselves. I'm also happy to supply them with weapons, but as a wealthy country they can pay for it. That darn elusive truth. As long as your man loves at the EPA keep stalling the permits for the refineries to start changing over to process shale oil we are stuck importing heavy crude for fuel. Light sweet crude that comes out of our shale isn't great for making diesel or jet fuel, so yes, we import some heavy stuff from Canada and Mexico. Very little comes from the middle east these days and we can shut that spigot off anytime without missing a beat. I'm not well versed on the politics around permits for the refineries. My understanding has been they haven't been swapped over because most of them signed long term contracts with producer's. example: Shell in Deer Park with PEMEX in Mexico. In any case, the core point remains. The US and its core allies are no longer dependent on the middle east. Did you read doofuses book on how to be an online expert in all things you're clueless about? Did this information just "feel" right? And yet you spout it out like it's facts. Here's TODAY's ships between Galveston and Corpus, 60% are inbound tankers. Might be a good time to retract your bold statements. You might read something like it's facts, In the last month I've been in Exxon, Phillips, Valero and Marathon refineries. Who do you think would have a clue, some soy boy in New York or the guys making the product? Don't think too hard. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/HxZ7ngN/Screenshot-2024-09-19-at-12-15-56-Ship-Container-Tracking-Vessel-Finder.png) Im going to trust Jpurde, he's like a billionaire. Only catches 10 pounders, and pulls hot chicks like it's his job. And I just bought a book he wrote on Amazon, for real. Im just playing, I know nothing about oil and gas. But I sure like servicing the guys in that industry with trucks. Some of my best clients. And I did buy his book.
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Re: Watch out for exploding pagers
[Re: ReelBusy]
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09/20/24 10:17 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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And who is their service provider? A TNTThat's real good!
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