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Re: 401K [Re: thrashfish] #15193799 09/18/24 02:09 AM
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11% is a good return. It won’t be that all the time though. If it is I would say you have done very well. I’ve been retired now for over a year and my guy is conservative with most of my money, but not all. There were years in the past that were 20% and some were not near as good.


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Re: 401K [Re: thrashfish] #15193806 09/18/24 02:16 AM
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11% this year
Or over the last 8?

I’m up about 12.8% this year after checking

Re: 401K [Re: thrashfish] #15193820 09/18/24 02:37 AM
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Who is your 401k provider? They probably have investment advice available to you.


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Re: 401K [Re: thrashfish] #15193908 09/18/24 04:27 AM
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I'm up 13% 1-year return. 8% year-to-date. That's ok - not great, not awful. Market as a whole is up this year higher than the average, so judging it against the average return in terms of your personal performance is not really fair. But in the end all that matters is that your account is going up


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Re: 401K [Re: thrashfish] #15193932 09/18/24 06:00 AM
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5% match is fantastic

Mine is at 9% on return and I’m happy with it


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Re: 401K [Re: thrashfish] #15194018 09/18/24 12:24 PM
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I would suggest a20% deposit each check. Did your company have a pension before they started your 401K?


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Re: 401K [Re: thrashfish] #15194023 09/18/24 12:31 PM
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Over the long haul if you can match or slightly beat the overall market you are doing well. That tends to be about 7% per year. I'd actually argue if you are near retirement and getting 11% you are probably investing too aggressively.


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Re: 401K [Re: Jig Man] #15194044 09/18/24 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jig Man
I would suggest a20% deposit each check. Did your company have a pension before they started your 401K?

Yup- it’s not about the rate of return he just needs to jack up his saving rate.

Re: 401K [Re: thrashfish] #15194057 09/18/24 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by thrashfish
I've worked for this company going on 34 years but we didn't get a 401K until about 8 years ago. I'm adding 10% every week and the company is matching 5% but I still think that I need to talk to the company handling the accounts to see if the return can be bumped up some with different investments.


For 26 years you did not invest in a self directed 401k? Your investment options are going to be limited by the plans offered through who ever administers your companies 401k. But 11% is a nice return.

I retire at the end of this year. In November 2022 I put most my 401k into a dividend paying stock. 7% return, but as long as the company pays a quarterly dividend, I'll have passive income for life.


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I had an uncle that educated me about saving many yrs ago. He told me to save until you feel it and then save a little more. The companies I worked for almost always had some kind of a match, usually 6 percent.

My goal was to save 25 percent of what I made in 401K , It didn't always work out that way but I tried.

When I retired about 2 yrs. ago, 28 percent of what I had in retirement was what I had put in and the rest was match and growth.

Time and compound interest is a powerful tool. I have told younger guys save all you can and don't touch it.

These are my experiences and thoughts. Your mileage may vary.


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Re: 401K [Re: grandbassslayer] #15194187 09/18/24 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lakeforkfisherman
Who is your 401k provider? They probably have investment advice available to you.


John Hancock, i haven't gone back to see what my rate of return has been in the past, I was scared to due to the current government administration.

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I've worked for this company going on 34 years but we didn't get a 401K until about 8 years ago. I'm adding 10% every week and the company is matching 5% but I still think that I need to talk to the company handling the accounts to see if the return can be bumped up some with different investments.

Is that when you started retirement savings in total- 8 years ago? They have what they call catch up contributions, the only way you’ll retire with a bit of dignity is to begin doubling what you are investing and maybe delaying retirement a bit.


I did the catch up contributions when we first received the 401K, i definitely didn't want to start with a zero balance being so close to retirement.

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My main advice is if your 401k balance takes a big dip for whatever blip in the economy do not sell when it is down. Over the years I have seen folks post how they lost big time in their retirement accounts because they panicked and sold during the 2008 crash. That is precisely when do you not sell if anything you try and buy more shares when it is low.

I can’t stress this enough the only time you actually lose is if you sell in a down market.

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Mine's at 13.28%

Re: 401K [Re: Hard Rain] #15194294 09/18/24 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hard Rain
My main advice is if your 401k balance takes a big dip for whatever blip in the economy do not sell when it is down. Over the years I have seen folks post how they lost big time in their retirement accounts because they panicked and sold during the 2008 crash. That is precisely when do you not sell if anything you try and buy more shares when it is low.

I can’t stress this enough the only time you actually lose is if you sell in a down market.

I was very fortunate in 2008. Probably just dumb luck but I saw it coming and got almost completely out of stocks. I also timed the return correctly. My problem was the ex took 1/2 of it 2 years later.


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My main advice is if your 401k balance takes a big dip for whatever blip in the economy do not sell when it is down. Over the years I have seen folks post how they lost big time in their retirement accounts because they panicked and sold during the 2008 crash. That is precisely when do you not sell if anything you try and buy more shares when it is low.

I can’t stress this enough the only time you actually lose is if you sell in a down market.

I was very fortunate in 2008. Probably just dumb luck but I saw it coming and got almost completely out of stocks. I also timed the return correctly. My problem was the ex took 1/2 of it 2 years later.


That would tend to have the same negative effect.

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