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Saw post that got me thinking
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09/06/24 06:54 PM
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YEE_YEE
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Seems some people want go after gun & ammo manufactures over school shootings... Why stop there ? Go after Nike if they wore Nikes to commit the crime... Go after Toyota if they drove a Toyota to commit the crime... Go after the bag manufacture they used to conceal the weapon to commit the crime... Can go on and on....Will not solve a thing... But what will curb it... Hard time for parents who allow access to firearms for kids on the FBI watch list and etc...You know when your kid is not all there...  If perp is 18 and purchased their on firearm hang em in a tree at the court house swiftly... 
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/06/24 07:07 PM
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grandbassslayer
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They want to go after gun manufacturers because they fundamentally hate them- 2A would basically be lost except for what existing guns we have..
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/06/24 10:49 PM
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Rayzor
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An unarmed people cannot combat government tyranny. That's what Demonrats want. Complete control.
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/06/24 11:19 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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UNEDUCATED people cannot combat government tyranny. That's what Demonrats want. Complete control. Haha. Do you REALLY think that is ever gonna happen? FIFY
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/06/24 11:45 PM
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Ted Dyer
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It’s the same concept as going after bars & bartenders for drunk drivers.
 The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/06/24 11:53 PM
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grandbassslayer
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It’s the same concept as going after bars & bartenders for drunk drivers. No its not- the bar tender is literally serving the person getting drunk- the transaction is happening immediately- you’d need the gun and ammo manufacturers handing the perp the weapon in the school lobby for this to be remotely close. They don’t have a crystal ball… next up you’re going to tell me that pro golf is the same as pro fishing?
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/07/24 03:02 AM
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Ted Dyer
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It’s the same concept as going after bars & bartenders for drunk drivers. No its not- the bar tender is literally serving the person getting drunk- the transaction is happening immediately- you’d need the gun and ammo manufacturers handing the perp the weapon in the school lobby for this to be remotely close. They don’t have a crystal ball… next up you’re going to tell me that pro golf is the same as pro fishing? Yes, it is. It’s not a perfect analogy, but in both instances they are putting the onus on the provider of the product rather than the consumer.
 The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/07/24 04:25 AM
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Mr. Majestic
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So the consumer has no responsibility whatsoever?
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/07/24 04:30 AM
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machinist
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So how did he get the gun in? Blame the school as much or more than anyone. It’s cheaper to put guards on every door than lose lawsuits.
I fish on the edge and stay out of the middle
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/07/24 02:51 PM
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Pat Goff
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/07/24 07:52 PM
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Ted Dyer
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So the consumer has no responsibility whatsoever? Of course the consumer bears responsibility, but an approach like this expands the responsibility and liability to the provider.
 The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/07/24 08:06 PM
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reeltexan
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They can’t take the guns but they can attack ammo manufacturing And already are.
"..The pleasantist angling is to see the fish Cut with her golden oars the silver stream, And greedily devour the treacherous bait. Bill Shakespeare
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/07/24 08:08 PM
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Duck_Hunter
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It’s the same concept as going after bars & bartenders for drunk drivers. And that concept is BS and should never have become a thing. YOU are responsible for what YOU do, not a bartender, gun manufacturer, car manufacturer, etc.
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/07/24 08:13 PM
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Ted Dyer
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It’s the same concept as going after bars & bartenders for drunk drivers. And that concept is BS and should never have become a thing. YOU are responsible for what YOU do, not a bartender, gun manufacturer, car manufacturer, etc. In a perfect world maybe, but this approach has been effective and accepted.
 The world is changed by your example, not by your opinion.
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Re: Saw post that got me thinking
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09/07/24 08:23 PM
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Quillback
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It’s the same concept as going after bars & bartenders for drunk drivers. No its not- the bar tender is literally serving the person getting drunk- the transaction is happening immediately- you’d need the gun and ammo manufacturers handing the perp the weapon in the school lobby for this to be remotely close. They don’t have a crystal ball… next up you’re going to tell me that pro golf is the same as pro fishing? Yes, it is. It’s not a perfect analogy, but in both instances they are putting the onus on the provider of the product rather than the consumer. I would say it is more like going after the liquor manufacturers. Going after the ammo retailers would be analogous to going after the bartender. But whatever, every time there is a mass shooting the left will come out with the ban guns, ban ammo, ban ammo and gun sales, sue all the manufacturers of guns and ammo, yada, yada.
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