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Rebuilt Powerhead Recommendation/Opinions #15086123 05/29/24 08:17 PM
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Looks like i need to have a rebuilt powerhead for my 92' 115 2 stroke and interested in others experiences with having this done. Interested in the following:

Rebuilders and any recommendations. I have heard of Crowley marine, OBR but not sure of any others and if any of these are quality or not.
How has the powerhead performed and any issues post purchase
Warranties and are they really being supported after purchase
What can you expect from rebuilt powerheads near and long term, are these as great, good, nowhere as good or just plain junk?

Open to any and all comments good or bad.

appreciate the help


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Re: Rebuilt Powerhead Recommendation/Opinions [Re: flyingg103] #15086336 05/29/24 11:48 PM
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Rebuilt/remanufactured anything is kind of luck if the draw. I have no idea what the warranty is on those but it really just all depends on what kind of people they have putting stuff together. I’ve noticed a real decline in overall product quality across the market (oem, aftermarket, you name it) in auto, ag, marine, and power sports equipment, I bought a reman genuine ford engine for my truck peak covid and it took me 4 warranty replacements before I got one that wasn’t tearing up cam bearings or having oil starvation issues in the top end….just sign of the times I suppose. If it were me and I was taking it to a mechanic ask about you options and get a warranty through the mechanic IN WRITING, that way if it breaks you can take it back to them and let them deal with the warranty department.

Re: Rebuilt Powerhead Recommendation/Opinions [Re: flyingg103] #15086577 05/30/24 10:29 AM
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A good rebuild is not cheap.
A cheap rebuild is not good.

I can absolutely tell you where NOT to go.
Blackbirds, customer brought in a V6 merc that they had just "remanufactured" because it was running bad.
There was not one gasket on the motor, everything was orange pookie.

Captian Macs in Austin.
Another customer brought in motor, was running rough and weak. Not one but two cylinders: No rings. Not missing a ring, there were NO rings

And on both of those, the rebuilder was not interested in any way to make things proper.


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Re: Rebuilt Powerhead Recommendation/Opinions [Re: Pat Goff] #15086912 05/30/24 04:23 PM
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That is helpful to know for sure. That's a dumpster fire to say the least. Are there any others to chime in on "Good" rebuilder options?

Re: Rebuilt Powerhead Recommendation/Opinions [Re: Pat Goff] #15086919 05/30/24 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pat Goff
A good rebuild is not cheap.
A cheap rebuild is not good.

I can absolutely tell you where NOT to go.
Blackbirds, customer brought in a V6 merc that they had just "remanufactured" because it was running bad.
There was not one gasket on the motor, everything was orange pookie.

Captian Macs in Austin.
Another customer brought in motor, was running rough and weak. Not one but two cylinders: No rings. Not missing a ring, there were NO rings

And on both of those, the rebuilder was not interested in any way to make things proper.



LOL...the only thing Captain Macs is good for is disposal of junk boats.


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Re: Rebuilt Powerhead Recommendation/Opinions [Re: flyingg103] #15087988 05/31/24 03:35 PM
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Appreciate the few recommendations on where not to go, are there any that have gone through this process that can actually recommend a rebuilt option?

Re: Rebuilt Powerhead Recommendation/Opinions [Re: flyingg103] #15088236 05/31/24 06:56 PM
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Mark Gunter is one of tha best in tha country... been at it a very, very long time.. give him a call....... hint: not cheap but worth it.... jmo.

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Shot in the dark here, but sometimes you can just order one on boats.net Might be obsolete being that old, but it’s worth a shot. It would be OEM.

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https://www.guntermarinesales.com/

Mark Gunter is one of tha best in tha country... been at it a very, very long time.. give him a call....... hint: not cheap but worth it.... jmo.

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Re: Rebuilt Powerhead Recommendation/Opinions [Re: flyingg103] #15105058 06/18/24 06:13 PM
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Few thoughts on rebuilds:
We found that finding a reputable machine shop to prep blocks for builds who wasn't 6+ months out was extremely hard to find. We quit doing in-house rebuilds here at Mallard Marine because of this. Rebuilding an engine is an art. Lots of small steps to get right. As posted above, a good rebuild will not be cheap. We moved on to re-man blocks to get customers back on the water faster, even though they cost more.
On the subject of re-manufactured blocks: we have sold OBR blocks with success. The couple we've had issues out of, OBR made right without question. OBR blocks will be more costly by the time you factor in labor as well, but if you want to fix your engine, they're not a bad option. They have an option to purchase a 2nd year of warranty for 2 years total at a low cost. Really only downside we've seen there is cost is not always worth it, compared to the value of the engine.
Whether rebuilding, or buying remanufactured from OBR, I do urge customers to understand that the warranty covers the rotating assembly, NOT used components re-used during the repair. It's not top to bottom warranty like you get with a new motor.
For example, whether it's OBR or rebuild, if you fix your motor, and say your stator fails next week, that would be something you'd have to pay for out of pocket. Or, and this is the ugly one, but let's say you get bad fuel or debris that stops up a fuel injector or carb and the new powerhead pops. Fuel quality is not the fault of the rebuilder or the re-manufacturer. Most of the time that results in a denied warranty claim. Rare, but we have seen it a couple times in our career.
Now, a quality shop, whether rebuilding or installing a re-man, will do things to help present you from having trouble. For example, when we install an OBR block, we have a policy that we also replace the water pump (prevent an overheat of a new motor), gear lube, clean fuel system, whether that's carbs or sending off fuel injectors, and checking the ignition system. We do that to cover our bases. If we install a new block on a customers motor for thousands of dollars, and they overheat it next week because they had a 5 year old lousy water pump in it, that's the shop's problem for not doing a thorough job. Now, if the customer shreds their water pump having run through a bunch of debris, that's a different story. So there's just so many aspects to consider.

In summary: a good shop will do a good job. You'll need to weigh the cost of your repair vs. the value of your motor, and what you're expecting out of the running quality of a 30 year old motor. If you can live with it, fix it. If not, order a new motor a get peace of mind of true top to bottom warranty and a smoother running engine, if it fits your budget.

Lastly, if we can help in any way, don't hesitate to reach out!


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Re: Rebuilt Powerhead Recommendation/Opinions [Re: flyingg103] #15105696 06/19/24 12:59 PM
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We can rebuild your motor


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