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Re: Was it Tyler Rivet? [Re: Strugglebus] #15074969 05/16/24 06:21 PM
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One of my favorite parts was when I heard them whining about pre fishing and how they used to do that (when they were single and with less obligations, which made them more competitive)but now they have families and sponsor obligations and they just CANT DO IT, this is what makes them unable to win.

To me that’s the reality of top tier competition, sacrifice and be all in, or get steam rolled.

What do they want? This is like saying it’s unfair when a golfer or other athlete attends extra practice, hires extra trainers, etc. in other sports these folks would have been culled years ago.



Are they whining though? Or are they just stating the facts? Of course having a family and more responsibilities will cut down time on the water, and of course less time on the water puts them at a disadvantage. I dont get how stating the obvious makes them whining. All of us old guys sit around and lament the "good ol days" before we had responsibilities. The youngsters will too, hopefully one day they will have a family and responsibilities. I wouldnt consider that whining.

So when an nfl player tells coach he doesn't have time to study film or workout because he needs more family time how does that go

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Bottom line - Do we want professional fisherman to be able to look at live bass while fishing for them. The aqua view system was not allowed, and there was controversy with that.

This sport is different in you have "outdoorsman" that have a talent at reading the natural environment , wind, temp, season and many more. The true talent is that. Not being one dimensional where all you need to do is be good at one thing. That is where we are. If you can dedicate all to scoping you can complete. That is not being an outdoorsman, which makes this sport unique.

Technology aside, the real line in the sand should be do we allow them to view live fish. I say no. Let's grow the sport with outdoorsman/women. Let us encourage the young bank fisherman etc. that have to do it the "old" way.

For those that embrace this so blindly will not be able to recognize the sport soon. Let AI tell you what type of fish that is on your FFS, pour oeer data and tell you where an what to throw.
Keep encouraging this and this is where we will wind up.
Never mind, just some old talking lol.

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Originally Posted by WAWI
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One of my favorite parts was when I heard them whining about pre fishing and how they used to do that (when they were single and with less obligations, which made them more competitive)but now they have families and sponsor obligations and they just CANT DO IT, this is what makes them unable to win.

To me that’s the reality of top tier competition, sacrifice and be all in, or get steam rolled.

What do they want? This is like saying it’s unfair when a golfer or other athlete attends extra practice, hires extra trainers, etc. in other sports these folks would have been culled years ago.



Are they whining though? Or are they just stating the facts? Of course having a family and more responsibilities will cut down time on the water, and of course less time on the water puts them at a disadvantage. I dont get how stating the obvious makes them whining. All of us old guys sit around and lament the "good ol days" before we had responsibilities. The youngsters will too, hopefully one day they will have a family and responsibilities. I wouldnt consider that whining.

So when an nfl player tells coach he doesn't have time to study film or workout because he needs more family time how does that go


Exactly who is the coach in your analogy?

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Originally Posted by Strugglebus
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One of my favorite parts was when I heard them whining about pre fishing and how they used to do that (when they were single and with less obligations, which made them more competitive)but now they have families and sponsor obligations and they just CANT DO IT, this is what makes them unable to win.

To me that’s the reality of top tier competition, sacrifice and be all in, or get steam rolled.

What do they want? This is like saying it’s unfair when a golfer or other athlete attends extra practice, hires extra trainers, etc. in other sports these folks would have been culled years ago.



Are they whining though? Or are they just stating the facts? Of course having a family and more responsibilities will cut down time on the water, and of course less time on the water puts them at a disadvantage. I dont get how stating the obvious makes them whining. All of us old guys sit around and lament the "good ol days" before we had responsibilities. The youngsters will too, hopefully one day they will have a family and responsibilities. I wouldnt consider that whining.

So when an nfl player tells coach he doesn't have time to study film or workout because he needs more family time how does that go


Exactly who is the coach in your analogy?

Wouldn’t matter cause if you don’t do those things you will be cut.

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Originally Posted by Strugglebus
Originally Posted by nfhbass
One of my favorite parts was when I heard them whining about pre fishing and how they used to do that (when they were single and with less obligations, which made them more competitive)but now they have families and sponsor obligations and they just CANT DO IT, this is what makes them unable to win.

To me that’s the reality of top tier competition, sacrifice and be all in, or get steam rolled.

What do they want? This is like saying it’s unfair when a golfer or other athlete attends extra practice, hires extra trainers, etc. in other sports these folks would have been culled years ago.



Are they whining though? Or are they just stating the facts? Of course having a family and more responsibilities will cut down time on the water, and of course less time on the water puts them at a disadvantage. I dont get how stating the obvious makes them whining. All of us old guys sit around and lament the "good ol days" before we had responsibilities. The youngsters will too, hopefully one day they will have a family and responsibilities. I wouldnt consider that whining.



Maybe they weren’t whining, maybe they were just reveling in what makes them mediocre now.

Zaldain seems to be adapting and overcoming, maybe he is slightly above mediocre. He should put his swim bait down and become more versatile.

In this day, nobody cares if you are the first to come and last to go at a trade show or whether you are willing to ‘pick up trash’, those are a thing of the 90s, it is all about social media and influencing these days, building a brand, that’s reality and what sponsors want.

Look at Milliken and Scott martin, that’s what todays success looks like, no matter the tourney result.

Lowen is living in 2008 at best. He’s getting out worked on both ends, that’s when the boat sinks.

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Originally Posted by Strugglebus
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One of my favorite parts was when I heard them whining about pre fishing and how they used to do that (when they were single and with less obligations, which made them more competitive)but now they have families and sponsor obligations and they just CANT DO IT, this is what makes them unable to win.

To me that’s the reality of top tier competition, sacrifice and be all in, or get steam rolled.

What do they want? This is like saying it’s unfair when a golfer or other athlete attends extra practice, hires extra trainers, etc. in other sports these folks would have been culled years ago.



Are they whining though? Or are they just stating the facts? Of course having a family and more responsibilities will cut down time on the water, and of course less time on the water puts them at a disadvantage. I dont get how stating the obvious makes them whining. All of us old guys sit around and lament the "good ol days" before we had responsibilities. The youngsters will too, hopefully one day they will have a family and responsibilities. I wouldnt consider that whining.

So when an nfl player tells coach he doesn't have time to study film or workout because he needs more family time how does that go


Exactly who is the coach in your analogy?


Well in this case it's the guy signing the checks after wiegh in......

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Dear Boomers, you had your day in the sun, time to let the future take over. Nobody cares that your Yamaha gets 3mpg and you couldn’t have caught those 3 dinks for six pounds, without your Express Boat. Oh Boy, you gave out a Bassmasters membership to a kid that doesn’t even read magazines anymore. balloons

These new kids will wipe the floor with you either way, with or without FFS; because they HUSTLE, while you shoot ducks.

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Some of these rookies are fishing 300+ days a year, good luck competing, that’s serious tow.

Re: Was it Tyler Rivet? [Re: grout-scout] #15075203 05/16/24 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by grout-scout
Dear Boomers, you had your day in the sun, time to let the future take over. Nobody cares that your Yamaha gets 3mpg and you couldn’t have caught those 3 dinks for six pounds, without your Express Boat. Oh Boy, you gave out a Bassmasters membership to a kid that doesn’t even read magazines anymore. balloons

These new kids will wipe the floor with you either way, with or without FFS; because they HUSTLE, while you shoot ducks.

I’m surprised people are still members- I’ve been getting the magazines sent to me for free for a few years now. The magazines are so irrelevant today since you can go on YouTube and get better targeted information.

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Originally Posted by grandbassslayer
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Dear Boomers, you had your day in the sun, time to let the future take over. Nobody cares that your Yamaha gets 3mpg and you couldn’t have caught those 3 dinks for six pounds, without your Express Boat. Oh Boy, you gave out a Bassmasters membership to a kid that doesn’t even read magazines anymore. balloons

These new kids will wipe the floor with you either way, with or without FFS; because they HUSTLE, while you shoot ducks.

I’m surprised people are still members- I’ve been getting the magazines sent to me for free for a few years now. The magazines are so irrelevant today since you can go on YouTube and get better targeted information.




Come on Scott, you know these rookie kids learned everything from their Bassmaster magazine. No way they learned anything from the YouTubers. YouTubers can’t compete with “professionals”. roflmao

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Trait accused someone that won a tournament of cheating in 2019. She sounds a little bitter that a cheater stole Zaldain's win away. I understand why she would be bitter because he is still yet to win a blue trophy. That got me curious as to who cheated him out of a win. Surprisingly, Zaldain came in second three times in 2019. So, it's either Carl Jocumsen, Jaimie Hartman, or Paul Mueller. Personally, my money's on the Aussie. It is annoying how they always want the guests on their podcast to spill the beans but always remain neutral, never name names, or give details of what they know. Pretty spineless.

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Trait accused someone that won a tournament of cheating in 2019. She sounds a little bitter that a cheater stole Zaldain's win away. I understand why she would be bitter because he is still yet to win a blue trophy. That got me curious as to who cheated him out of a win. Surprisingly, Zaldain came in second three times in 2019. So, it's either Carl Jocumsen, Jaimie Hartman, or Paul Mueller. Personally, my money's on the Aussie. It is annoying how they always want the guests on their podcast to spill the beans but always remain neutral, never name names, or give details of what they know. Pretty spineless.


Having a spine gets you benched, look at Watson.

Zaldain has had plenty of opportunity to win, he’s stopping himself. He spends too much time throwing big swimbaits. That said, you would have thought by now he could have strung together 4 good days with a swimbait to win.

One thing is certain, the state of tour level pro fishing isn’t good. Everyone is willing to pay more to compete for less. They then take to YouTube to cry about it. I’m losing interest. I get that drama sells, but it’s become more of a soap opera than a sport.

Name one other sport where the athletes spend their spare time complaining about on how bad they have it. Nobody cares.

I quit fishing tournaments a handful of years ago, was never big into it, but don’t miss it one bit. It’s gotten ridiculous on most levels.

I go out of my way to be around no one when I go fishing these days.

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Some of these guys are in decline. It happens to all of us at one point or another Guys like Clunn recognized it and accepted it and appears to be happy where he is in life in the wise elder statesman role.The guys that don’t or just try to refuse to believe will be miserable. Even the 19 year old will face it some day.

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LOL!! Milliken has shown an email on his IG where BASS has already changed the info rule regarding Open qualifiers. They will be restricted from outside info regarding the 2025 Elite schedule. Let’s see what else they dig up to bitch about now.

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Heeran, one of the top criers, pumped so many locals for info before the 2016 Tx Fest at RR, what a hypocrite. I had an old sponsor of his contact me and ask me about the lake for him. I gave "him" ole #31


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