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2005 f150 starting issue
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05/14/24 09:59 PM
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Mckinneycrappiecatcher
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Vehicle started and ran fine, parked it for a few hours and went to start it up and nothing. Checked fuses and swapped a relay to see if it was any of that, nada, changed starter, nothing. I can put the key in and turn it to run and then tap a screwdriver on the positive and negative terminals of the starter and it’ll start. I’m baffled. Any ideas?
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
[Re: Mckinneycrappiecatcher]
#15073784
05/15/24 02:04 PM
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mstring
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Does that model have the external starter solenoid like the old Fords? Is that what you jumped to get it to start?
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
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#15073893
05/15/24 04:10 PM
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Does that model have the external starter solenoid like the old Fords? Is that what you jumped to get it to start? Solenoid is on the starter
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
[Re: Mckinneycrappiecatcher]
#15074127
05/15/24 09:01 PM
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bronco71
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sounds like bad ignition switch
1987 Nitro MX185/Mercury Black Max 150 (needs lots of work, put motor on nephew's boat) 1994 XSC-2200 "Jaguar" AKA Shadow 22 Magnum (restoring w/Mercury 200 XRI) 1994 Pantera II (restoring w/Mercury 200 EFI) 1999 Triton TX21/225 Mercury Optimax
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
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#15074190
05/15/24 09:53 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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sounds like bad ignition switch To be more exact. The 2005 has the key on the column. The switch is likely ok. There is a metal rod that goes down the column that pushes and pulls a plastic rack with copper contacts embossed on the rack and rack case. The start part of the rack is the furthest position down the rack. The metal rod slowly wears away the inside of the rack from years of cycling off-ignition-start-ignition-off. The switch likely is moving the same as it was when new, but the rack just isn’t sliding far enough to make good contact in the “start” position from wear. Time for a new ignition rack assembly. Last time I changed one, it was a few plugs and a couple nuts. The one I changed had some adjustment in it, but not enough. It’s about $70 for all the parts to replace the plastic parts and the rod
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
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05/16/24 03:18 AM
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sounds like bad ignition switch To be more exact. The 2005 has the key on the column. The switch is likely ok. There is a metal rod that goes down the column that pushes and pulls a plastic rack with copper contacts embossed on the rack and rack case. The start part of the rack is the furthest position down the rack. The metal rod slowly wears away the inside of the rack from years of cycling off-ignition-start-ignition-off. The switch likely is moving the same as it was when new, but the rack just isn’t sliding far enough to make good contact in the “start” position from wear. Time for a new ignition rack assembly. Last time I changed one, it was a few plugs and a couple nuts. The one I changed had some adjustment in it, but not enough. It’s about $70 for all the parts to replace the plastic parts and the rod Is there more to replace than just that part you have a picture of? If not I can get a standard replacement online for about $30
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
[Re: Mckinneycrappiecatcher]
#15074512
05/16/24 08:25 AM
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I see what you are saying Steez
Last edited by Bandit 200 XP; 05/16/24 08:25 AM.
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
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05/16/24 01:00 PM
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SteezMacQueen
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sounds like bad ignition switch To be more exact. The 2005 has the key on the column. The switch is likely ok. There is a metal rod that goes down the column that pushes and pulls a plastic rack with copper contacts embossed on the rack and rack case. The start part of the rack is the furthest position down the rack. The metal rod slowly wears away the inside of the rack from years of cycling off-ignition-start-ignition-off. The switch likely is moving the same as it was when new, but the rack just isn’t sliding far enough to make good contact in the “start” position from wear. Time for a new ignition rack assembly. Last time I changed one, it was a few plugs and a couple nuts. The one I changed had some adjustment in it, but not enough. It’s about $70 for all the parts to replace the plastic parts and the rod Is there more to replace than just that part you have a picture of? If not I can get a standard replacement online for about $30 There is a rod that goes from the key tumbler down to this part. It generally doesn’t wear out, but it might as well get replaced when you do this part.
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
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05/16/24 06:25 PM
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sounds like bad ignition switch To be more exact. The 2005 has the key on the column. The switch is likely ok. There is a metal rod that goes down the column that pushes and pulls a plastic rack with copper contacts embossed on the rack and rack case. The start part of the rack is the furthest position down the rack. The metal rod slowly wears away the inside of the rack from years of cycling off-ignition-start-ignition-off. The switch likely is moving the same as it was when new, but the rack just isn’t sliding far enough to make good contact in the “start” position from wear. Time for a new ignition rack assembly. Last time I changed one, it was a few plugs and a couple nuts. The one I changed had some adjustment in it, but not enough. It’s about $70 for all the parts to replace the plastic parts and the rod Is there more to replace than just that part you have a picture of? If not I can get a standard replacement online for about $30 There is a rod that goes from the key tumbler down to this part. It generally doesn’t wear out, but it might as well get replaced when you do this part. Ok, makes sense. Is that typically a dealer only part?
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
[Re: Mckinneycrappiecatcher]
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05/20/24 02:10 PM
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Fish-ed
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Was that something you were able to replace yourself?
just trying to catch a fish
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
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#15078013
05/20/24 02:50 PM
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Was that something you were able to replace yourself?
Took less than an hour. Not a bad fix. Took just as long to run in to town and get the part as it did to fix it. If you can’t start it in park, but you can get it to start in neutral that’s how you know what it is.
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Re: 2005 f150 starting issue
[Re: Mckinneycrappiecatcher]
#15078126
05/20/24 04:51 PM
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Thanks for the information, glad you got yours fixed.
just trying to catch a fish
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