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Re: Problem Casting Bass Bugs [Re: Dave Speer] #1485759 07/27/07 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Long-Haired Dave
More than a short leader you need a leader with a large diameter. If you have 5 feet of 6 pound mono you will not fish the popper, you will dig it out of your shoulder once in a while.

See a casting instructor-- and choose one wisely. Not necessarily always your local fly shop although sometimes that has to do.

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The leader needs to be pretty short and stiff (read 14lb# test mono) or you will end up with a bass bug stuck in your neck!!


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Re: Problem Casting Bass Bugs [Re: hook-line&sinker] #1486624 07/28/07 04:17 AM
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Here is what I typically do: About 2ft of 20lb test tied to the fly line, followed by a 3ft 10lb test section. basically a simple tapered leader.


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Re: Problem Casting Bass Bugs [Re: ccabal] #1486744 07/28/07 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: ccabal
Here is what I typically do: About 2ft of 20lb test tied to the fly line, followed by a 3ft 10lb test section. basically a simple tapered leader.
head to Walmart and buy two spools of that el cheapo monofilament a 20 pounder and a 10 pounder. Heck, you might have it in your tackle box now.

The thing is that lighter mono (5 and 6 pound test) is simply too light and small. The bug overpowers it. Imagine the bug on a piece of sewing thread and trying to control where its going with the thread and then imagine it on a piece of 150 pound test mono and trying to control where it goes. That is an extreme analogy but hopefully illustrates what is going on with fly line and tippet.

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Originally Posted By: Long-Haired Dave

See a casting instructor-- and choose one wisely. Not necessarily always your local fly shop although sometimes that has to do.
I suspect that Dave is advising you that not all casting instructors are created equally and that a fly shop is not necessarily always going to have the best instructors.


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Re: Problem Casting Bass Bugs [Re: bc2bagger] #1503513 08/03/07 07:43 PM
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This is kind of long and rambling. Sorry in advance.

I went out fishing a local pond this morning and although I didn't catch anything, it was quite a learning experience. As I said in another thread, I just started fly fishing a few weeks ago and have a 9 foot long 6 weight fly rod. In the past, I have fished with grass hoppers, poppers and other assorted dry flies and streamers in sizes 6-12. I have had no real problem casting any of these when I use the right technique. Basically, when I do my part, the flies go pretty close to where I was aiming. I know that with practice I will get better. I am far from a professional, but at least 8 out of 10 casts could be classified as a success, or at least not a failure.

I did however have a major problem this morning. Once I tried the above flies, I tied on a Betts Bass Bug that I got the other day. I was going to throw it near some aquatic vegetation, but I immediately had trouble. I couldn't cast the thing worth a darn. If I tried to cast any further than about 15 feet, the fly acted really weird. When the back cast reached its rearward peak, it kind of felt like a rubber band was popping (if that makes any sense. That is the best way I can describe it. It felt like the line went slack, and then all of the sudden tightened up and came forward quickly.) This resulted in the bug accelerating forward faster than the line and everything getting tangled. The line would cast out forward, but the bug would land right in front of me.

It seemed like the bug might have been too heavy. Another thought I had is that my casting motion isn't smooth enough (which I know it isn't) and when I get the kinks worked out and become smoother the bug will cast correctly.

Has anyone else had this problem? Any advice? I am hoping all I need to do is keep practicing.


i know the popper your talking about. yur gunna have to get a stiffer pole to throw that out there

Re: Problem Casting Bass Bugs [Re: Thorpedo] #1503807 08/03/07 10:11 PM
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Cool. I only have one of them, so at most I am out $2.99. I'll just save it for one of these days when I am a serious enough fly fisherman that I need more than just a six weight rod.

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