Most of the fish that I have scoped are deep and I get right over them and drop straight down. It's not that I'm trying to only do it that way it's just what has worked for my limited abilities. It's new, it's interesting, it's something to play with. And I eat a hell of a lot more crappie now. Piles of them. And yes if I had my way I would throw a spook all day instead but.....

Must suck to suck

It does

Thank you for this post. Bottom line is that FFS has made me way worse at fishing. I used to catch a limit no problem on an old boat. Not an easy learning curve.

I'm in no way against FFS I hope to have it some day. But will they start to apply the same rule as site fishing that the fish must be hooked in the mouth since all the stink about FFS is how well you can see what the fish is doing?

If you are worried about snagging bass with FFS just go try it and see how many fish you hit.

No, no, NO!!! You're completely wrong. All you have to do is turn it on and 10 pounders jump in the boat! Just ask all the haters, they'll tell you.

You must be doing something wrong!

I will never be able to use it to catch fish until #1 - I can use it independent of the trolling motor (yes I know you can do this now but my trolling motor shaft already looks like a cell tower) and it needs to tell me if I’m looking at a carp, drum, catfish, striper, hybrid, etc, or actually a bass. So I don’t waste my time. So in short, I will never be able to use it in my lifetime. Lol

I had no idea there was so many bluecats suspended in the lake.

I had no idea there were so many fish that don’t give a damn about the lure you are throwing.

I did... Dan

If you like to catch fish and can afford it and you do not have it you are missing out on some fun.

It's funny people that do not use it saying you only get a few bites a day. We have been routinely catching 30+ fish a day on FFS in east Tx in 40+ feet of water in the past 6 weeks or so. If the water is below like 45 degrees a lot of the fish are on the bottom where you cannot see them. You will only catch a few most days, but they are usually bigger fish.

The pros are not casting to 2-3 pond fish at Toledo and Fork. If they were to cast to every fish they saw they would be catching an insane amount of fish per day. This time of year with giant shad balls there are hundreds if not thousands of fish around them. We are seeing 50+ fish wolfpacks as the norm. If you see 3 or more fish together they are extremely aggressive, the singles are often more finicky. Like it has been said bass and the bait move very fast as the water as the temps rise.

Honestly using the units and learning to dial them in is not hard at all. Finding fish, if you could before then you will with FFS. The hard part is learning to present your bait. When fish are aggressive you can get within in a few feet and they will come to it, when they aren't it can be very frustrating. You basically have to lead them in direction they are headed and lead them. It's like trying to shoot gamebirds.

It is the spawn and my good friend, whom I fish with a lot, said he doesn't care to ever go near the bank as long as the offshore FFS will bite. Oh and he is 64 and he is very good with FFS because he took the time to learn it and adapt to the technology that will help him catch more fish.


It is honestly one of the funnest things you'll ever do.

Get you a front looker and join the revolution

Once you get your head around the beam angle and what distance your at, just because you see the bait and the fish does -not- mean they are close to each other. It's tough!

For a small, phenomenal fee I can give you a lesson