We're not talking about people getting jobs at a CPA firm or Raytheon. Taco Bell and McDonald's aren't that picky. As I said earlier in this thread, I literally hired a maintenance man straight out of a homeless shelter. I even gave him a free place to live (included with his job and compensation). He chose to do the very things that made him homeless and screw it up.

That's the norm for why people are homeless. The people who were working but had a flat tire on the way to the Christmas extravaganza and got fired are the rare exceptions. [/quote]

so you spend a lot of time volunteering with the homeless?

I would couple parenting with education as being a/the root cause. What we taught kids 20 years ago (none the less longer ago) isn't adequate for today's Internet/AI landscape. Education MUST adapt.

This guy you hired, did he have any form of ID?

And Soft White Underbelly guy would trace education issue back to poor parenting.

Soft White Underbelly talks of numerous times where entire buildings were created to offer free housing and most of the recipients chose to go back to the street.

We can't and shouldn't control how people raise their children but we can and should control what we teach our children in public schools.

Most of the ones I seen seem to enjoy it Getting Drunk and High all the time on someone else's dime.

so you spend a lot of time volunteering with the homeless? [/quote]

No, I'm just not a clueless fool. I live in reality, no fantasy land.

I grew up poor. I wore hand me downs and clothes from garage sales or Goodwill. Kids at school made fun of my shoes. My dad was a disabled vet. Before he could finish the extremely long process of getting disability money started we ate whatever we could afford, sometimes Miracle Whip or thousand island dressing sandwiches.

I was the executor of both of my parents' estate, but neither had anything to administer. I had to pay for my dad's funeral out of my own pocket. When my mom died she owed more on her little house than it was worth. Her bank had given her a home equity loan that she used to pay her living expenses. It was more than they should have loaned, but I was glad they did it for her. My wife and I, along with my sister and brother-in-law, paid for her funeral right down to the clothes she was buried in and digging the hole. We also made the mortgage payments on the house to keep from losing it. One of my brothers eventually moved in and still lives there. I never got a penny, nor did I want it.

I didn't grow up with advantages, but I knew I didn't want to be a criminal or a bum. I started working the front desk at a motel and eventually worked my way up to general manager. It can be done. When that line of work started changing and there was less opportunity I went back to college at age 40 and got a second degree, which I used until retiring recently. I got a student loan and paid it off ahead of time. Again, it can be done.

I’d guess that there’s a large number of kids going thru that same education system that don’t end up in homeless camps.

There's plenty of people with 2 loving parents who DO end up in homeless camps.

Both parenting and education can be better than they are now. I think both of those will have a positive impact on homelessness.

I’ve never heard him talk about parental love as a variable in causation, just effective parenting vs. ineffective, good vs. bad…etc.

Replace my use of the word "loving" with "effective" then...

No, I’m leaving it as is.

ok

Being homeless is a choice . The problem is most homeless people are not mentally capable of making rational decisions. Judge William Wayne Justice made a decision that made it unlawful to detain the mentally ill, forced patients out of hospitals onto the streets.