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Mark-Sleeper Craw
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09/12/23 07:19 PM
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OkAce
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How much success have you had with this bait? I ordered several of these when they first came out and I am yet to catch a fish on it. I'm not writing it off just really surprised I haven't had any luck with it.
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
[Re: OkAce]
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09/12/23 07:31 PM
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Mark Perry
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I had a lot of success when I got the initial prototypes a few years back about the time the Classic was in Fort Worth. I was cautiouslying optimistic as it was post spawn going into summer and bite was good everywhere it seemed. It's held up though and each version up to final version has been pretty consistent for me. I pretty well keep o e tied on if I am fishing DFW area lakes. They crush them here on Bridgeport.
All in all I get bit on them pretty consistently. I use the grass craw color the most. I love dragging them along rocky points. Pretty good hookup ratio and for most part the fish stay hooked. It's pretty good about getting them in Top of mouth as well. I fish it like a jig. Make sure you don't store them with other plastics though as tgeyvwill react and melt.
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
[Re: OkAce]
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09/12/23 07:47 PM
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OkAce
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I will give them a go again next week. I had reached out to you a few months ago about storage so I left them in the original package
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
[Re: OkAce]
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09/12/23 10:36 PM
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Puma Jim
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Pinchers don’t last. Wait for it and find out yourself. Love my megabass but not this one
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
[Re: Puma Jim]
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09/12/23 11:24 PM
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Mark Perry
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Pinchers don’t last. Wait for it and find out yourself. Love my megabass but not this one Once again if you feel they don't last I will be more than happy to offer to replace the ones you lost.we just are not seeing that be an issue. There might be an isolated case here or there but not something we see much. If anyone has any doubts please stop by or call a retailer you do business with and ask. It's not been an issue.it was something we watched closely during testing and wanted to make sure the bait would hold up. I'm not saying you didn't have it happen. I'm saying it's not widespread and I will be happy to get yours replaced for you.
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
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09/14/23 11:01 PM
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Puma Jim
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Pinchers don’t last. Wait for it and find out yourself. Love my megabass but not this one Once again if you feel they don't last I will be more than happy to offer to replace the ones you lost.we just are not seeing that be an issue. There might be an isolated case here or there but not something we see much. If anyone has any doubts please stop by or call a retailer you do business with and ask. It's not been an issue.it was something we watched closely during testing and wanted to make sure the bait would hold up. I'm not saying you didn't have it happen. I'm saying it's not widespread and I will be happy to get yours replaced for you. nope, don’t want replacements as it will happen again. I know it’s happening to others as well and with time guys will experience the same. They get bit but didn’t make it through the day. I’m just trying to let folks know the same so they don’t get burned like me and others. I’m quite surprised you have not experienced this but you will. To me it’s like using netbait craws and having fish bite the pinchers off just not as expensive. Need any more proof read reviews on tackle warehouse. Several point out the same thing
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
[Re: Puma Jim]
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09/15/23 02:15 AM
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Mark Perry
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Pinchers don’t last. Wait for it and find out yourself. Love my megabass but not this one Once again if you feel they don't last I will be more than happy to offer to replace the ones you lost.we just are not seeing that be an issue. There might be an isolated case here or there but not something we see much. If anyone has any doubts please stop by or call a retailer you do business with and ask. It's not been an issue.it was something we watched closely during testing and wanted to make sure the bait would hold up. I'm not saying you didn't have it happen. I'm saying it's not widespread and I will be happy to get yours replaced for you. nope, don’t want replacements as it will happen again. I know it’s happening to others as well and with time guys will experience the same. They get bit but didn’t make it through the day. I’m just trying to let folks know the same so they don’t get burned like me and others. I’m quite surprised you have not experienced this but you will. To me it’s like using netbait craws and having fish bite the pinchers off just not as expensive. Need any more proof read reviews on tackle warehouse. Several point out the same thing Respectfully I have thrown the bait a ton. All the way back to the early prototypes. It's not happened to me in hours upon hours of throwing the production version. I am in a good number of retailers writing orders and if there are issues with a product they let us know. To date I have not heard any complaints from dealers here. I've heard your complaints as well as a few others on websites like this but it's literally been a handful if that of complaints. We have sold thousands of the Sleeper Craws so it's a very miniscule sample size with any issues at all. The offer stands. You decide you want yours replaced just let me know amd I will take care if it ASAP. 
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
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09/15/23 02:31 PM
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BrandoA
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Pinchers don’t last. Wait for it and find out yourself. Love my megabass but not this one Once again if you feel they don't last I will be more than happy to offer to replace the ones you lost.we just are not seeing that be an issue. There might be an isolated case here or there but not something we see much. If anyone has any doubts please stop by or call a retailer you do business with and ask. It's not been an issue.it was something we watched closely during testing and wanted to make sure the bait would hold up. I'm not saying you didn't have it happen. I'm saying it's not widespread and I will be happy to get yours replaced for you. nope, don’t want replacements as it will happen again. I know it’s happening to others as well and with time guys will experience the same. They get bit but didn’t make it through the day. I’m just trying to let folks know the same so they don’t get burned like me and others. I’m quite surprised you have not experienced this but you will. To me it’s like using netbait craws and having fish bite the pinchers off just not as expensive. Need any more proof read reviews on tackle warehouse. Several point out the same thing Respectfully I have thrown the bait a ton. All the way back to the early prototypes. It's not happened to me in hours upon hours of throwing the production version. I am in a good number of retailers writing orders and if there are issues with a product they let us know. To date I have not heard any complaints from dealers here. I've heard your complaints as well as a few others on websites like this but it's literally been a handful if that of complaints. We have sold thousands of the Sleeper Craws so it's a very miniscule sample size with any issues at all. The offer stands. Yiu decide you want yours replaced just let me know abd I will take care if it ASAP.  Heck with a return policy like this I will order a couple and give'em a go
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
[Re: OkAce]
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09/15/23 02:44 PM
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Puma Jim
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Just to have it happen again? Go ahead and order but suggest you read reviews on sites like tackle warehouse. Megabass makes great stuff. This one, not so much
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
[Re: OkAce]
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09/15/23 02:44 PM
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same here, gonna give ‘em a try
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
[Re: Puma Jim]
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09/15/23 03:21 PM
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Just to have it happen again? Go ahead and order but suggest you read reviews on sites like tackle warehouse. Megabass makes great stuff. This one, not so much I read the reviews. And noticed the issue but also noticed they all said they got bite. Also considering how many sold vs how many complaints seems isolated. Heck I have lost $20 lures on first cast so if it falls a part send it back and shrug my my shoulders and move on. If it gets the right bite and catches me another DD then I don't care if it blows up into a million pieces, it paid for itself for that one right fish and I'm happy. Lifes to short to sweat the small stuff and this is small stuff.
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
[Re: OkAce]
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09/15/23 05:51 PM
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Mark Perry
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In regards to the gentleman that had an issue with the claws I want to be clear that in no way am I doubting that he had an issue. Everyone's experience with a bait in unique. He pointed out an issue I had so I wanted to offer a solution to get them swapped out. I do not however think there is an issue across the board with the claws at all as data just does not prove that. With all the units sold its juts not been something that has been prevalent. I personally have not experience that issue and I've fished about as long as anyone in the US. He refences the TW reviews and 2 reviews out of approx: 20 mention the claws. The large majority of those TW reviews are very positive and do mention as stated about how well the bait gets bit. Reality is you can read through the reviews on most any product on TW and even with the most popular items you will find a few negative reviews. Thats OK, its just the nature of selling in large volumes. Occasionally there will be an issue. With the Sleeper Craw being a soft plastic bait there comes an inherent risk of occasionally something beyond the manufacturer's or angler's control happening that damages the bait. its part of fishing. If the craws were 100% indestructible they would not generate as many bites or have as good a hook up ratio. Personally as I stated in a previous post they hold up extremely well for me and most people that I have spoken with that are using them. Probably much better than many expect. That being said Megabass feels that their products are a premium product and with that is an internal expectation of premium quality and premium customer service should anyone have an issue with a product. With so many brands on the market Megabass truly appreciates customers that trust their bite to Megabass products and will always stand behind their products. Getting feedback from customers good and bad is helpful and appreciated. In the end we just want to do right by the customer. I urge anyone that ever has an issue, complaint, question or suggestion about a Megabass product o reach out. I am always available locally or you can contact direct at www.megabassusa.comThe offer to the gentleman having issues is open ended. If he wants his replaced I will get it done. Thanks
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
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09/15/23 08:21 PM
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Puma Jim
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I made it clear I don’t want replacements just to have the same problem. As far as TW reviews we must be looking at different reviews. There are 18 reviews from May until now and 10 are negative regarding melting body or ripped claws. That’s a pretty high failure rate and I have no doubt there will be more in coming months. I get that you are sponsored by Megabass so even if you thought a product was bad I doubt you would say so on a fishing forum but as a customer I just think these are junk and I’m just pointing out that these rip easy and I just can’t believe that all the testing the so called experts did and they didn’t experience this. Hell, we even had sunfish rip off the pinchers. Did it get bites for us yes but a $10 bait should last more than an outing. Am I going to stop buying megabass lures no just this one. I truly believe once these are on the market for awhile others will experience the same. Anyone that buys these good luck and hope they work for you.
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
[Re: Puma Jim]
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09/15/23 09:25 PM
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Mark Perry
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I made it clear I don’t want replacements just to have the same problem. As far as TW reviews we must be looking at different reviews. There are 18 reviews from May until now and 10 are negative regarding melting body or ripped claws. That’s a pretty high failure rate and I have no doubt there will be more in coming months. I get that you are sponsored by Megabass so even if you thought a product was bad I doubt you would say so on a fishing forum but as a customer I just think these are junk and I’m just pointing out that these rip easy and I just can’t believe that all the testing the so called experts did and they didn’t experience this. Hell, we even had sunfish rip off the pinchers. Did it get bites for us yes but a $10 bait should last more than an outing. Am I going to stop buying megabass lures no just this one. I truly believe once these are on the market for awhile others will experience the same. Anyone that buys these good luck and hope they work for you. Respectfully you mentioned the craws not lasting here on your post. Same with your posts elsewhere. Your experience as I stated is yours and I am not doubting you one bit about that. I know without question it's not a widespread issue because I work with dealers regularly as I help as a regional sales representative for Megabass. I deal with dealers abd get direct feedback. Same with our customers. As for the testing I'm not going to get into what was changed from original prototypes to subsequent prototypes to the final production model which is out now. It's proprietary information and will remain so. I can tell it was about 3 years worth of testing and modifications to arrive at the final version. I will reiterate that no matter what at the end of the day it's a soft plastic bait. It has an internal weight and harness. There are situations where it can be damaged in the course of fishing such as banging it off of docks, rocks, other hard cover etc. It's going to wear out over time. It's a consumable much like any other soft plastic bait, hollow body frog, soft swimbait etc. The Sleeper Craw is designed to take a beating but a lot of factors might affect that. Some controllable and some just part of fishing. Small fishing, sunfish, gills etc can be a nuisance no doubt. I haven't had any rip off a claw but I understand how it could happen especially in water with a big population of them. That's not a disclaimer it's just reality when dealing with soft plastics. If a Megabass product has issues I will be the first to say so because I do not want anything on the market that is not the best possible product it can be. I know Megabass is incredibly strict in regards to the quality standards tgey hold their products too. Remember they are the same company that did a voluntary recall on a rod series for dealers and customers because of a very small issue that only affected a miniscule percentage of the models. They were incredibly transparent and did so via direct communication with dealers and customers as well as social media sites. Those rods were 20x the cost of the Sleeper Craws so if there was a global issue with the bait it would be handled just as quickly and efficiently. The Sleeper Craw has been out a good while now. Plenty are out there. We have had dealers reorder multiple times now. There is not a lack of sample size out there in customers hands. Your issue has been in the very small minority of customers in terms of the bait. Your issue is valid to your situation and I respect that so that is why I have made the offer multiple times now on different forums to replace them. You have declined each time which I respect as well. I am gonna defend the product though when you say it's an overall problem with the bait. It's simply not and again I am going by numbers sold and feedback. I offered up the suggestion to just ask your trusted dealers what feedback they have received on the Sleeper Craw. Most good dealers do not reorder and continue to stock products that are defective. I personally have not had a single dealer I work with stop stocking them. I've not even heard a dealer complain or pass on a customer complaint about them. I sincerely apologize for your issue and will take care of it should you change your mind in the future. Just shoot me a message should you decide to swap them out. Thanks
Last edited by Mark Perry; 09/15/23 09:48 PM.
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Re: Mark-Sleeper Craw
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09/18/23 01:41 PM
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I love the sleeper craws. I won big bass in 3 tournaments this year using this bait. The natural pro blue is my favorite color up here and I have not had the problems with the pincers Puma Jim stated.
My only complaint is that they get hung up very easy. They wedge themselves between the rocks or in brush piles but if you take your time and get on the other side of it you can typically get them free.
I broke my brand new perfect pitch rod this weekend setting the hook. Need to figure out how to get that returned.
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