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Re: Preach!!! [Re: Rangerkev] #14828403 09/01/23 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rangerkev
bsouth401, why would mentioning his name be a bad thing. No laws are broken, it's not slander. Is he scared of his sponsors dumping him. Me personally I don't believe gossip or rumors. You actually make yourself look worse by coming on here and trying to spread gossip. They do have a lady anglers section. You seem to be a better fit there.



Brian South is one of the most upstanding and honest people that have ever posted on this forum.

Also, I will lay big odds he can whip your butt and then you could proudly proclaim that a "lady angler" whipped your tail.

To avoid getting banned I will not openly post what I really think of you!


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Re: Preach!!! [Re: Rangerkev] #14828410 09/01/23 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rangerkev
bsouth401, why would mentioning his name be a bad thing. No laws are broken, it's not slander. Is he scared of his sponsors dumping him. Me personally I don't believe gossip or rumors. You actually make yourself look worse by coming on here and trying to spread gossip. They do have a lady anglers section. You seem to be a better fit there.


To answer your question, I didn't mention his name out of respect for him and his sponsors. Respect is something you should look into. I talked with him again later last night and again he is convinced that BASS is going to do something on the Elites about FFS. His name is Matt Herron and after speaking with him again he doesn't mind me mentioning his name, and I'm simply relaying what he believes. (Not rumor or fake news). I disagree with him and Randy and the whole bunch of FFS haters, but they are entitled to their opinions. I have FFS and think it's awesome. My son Pake is 19 and in my opinion is about as good as comes using FFS. Kev or whatever your name is I'm a about to turn 60 and a full grown man. Your comment about me fitting in better in the ladies section is laughable. My personal opinion is that some of these old dogs need to learn some new tricks, or they will continue to get their butts handed to them. With that said, I don't hate them, I just disagree. I like what I heard on another place that maybe there should be a senior tournament trail with 18' boats 150 HP motors and limit them to a flasher on the dash and a 2d graph up front. For those that have not used FFS it's not as easy as some would lead you to believe. Does it help? Sure, if you put in the time to learn it.


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Re: Preach!!! [Re: Douglas J] #14828437 09/01/23 03:49 PM
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Perfect response by Bsouth....

As a fan I hope it goes away, just like as a fan I wish they would change the defensive rules in football and go back to letting them really play defense. As an angler, I am just going to have to beat 'em or join 'em.

Re: Preach!!! [Re: Douglas J] #14828439 09/01/23 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Douglas J
Originally Posted by Rangerkev
bsouth401, why would mentioning his name be a bad thing. No laws are broken, it's not slander. Is he scared of his sponsors dumping him. Me personally I don't believe gossip or rumors. You actually make yourself look worse by coming on here and trying to spread gossip. They do have a lady anglers section. You seem to be a better fit there.


Brian South is one of the most upstanding and honest people that have ever posted on this forum...


I met Brian once many years ago while fishing on Fork and I second this opinion. He's an outstanding fisherman with impeccable honor and trustworthiness!

Re: Preach!!! [Re: Douglas J] #14828442 09/01/23 04:00 PM
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The whole topic is dumb. The smallmouth tournaments were boring before FFS and they are still boring with it.

Re: Preach!!! [Re: Rangerkev] #14828444 09/01/23 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rangerkev
bsouth401, why would mentioning his name be a bad thing. No laws are broken, it's not slander. Is he scared of his sponsors dumping him. Me personally I don't believe gossip or rumors. You actually make yourself look worse by coming on here and trying to spread gossip. They do have a lady anglers section. You seem to be a better fit there.

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Re: Preach!!! [Re: Douglas J] #14828713 09/02/23 02:12 AM
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As I stated in another post; been watching a lot of MLF and some BASS Elite tournaments with my first HS season about to kick off and noticed how many commercials are ran by Humminbird, Lowrance, and Garmin. Weigh that against Randy's point of view..........


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Re: Preach!!! [Re: bsouth401] #14828837 09/02/23 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bsouth401
Originally Posted by Rangerkev
bsouth401, why would mentioning his name be a bad thing. No laws are broken, it's not slander. Is he scared of his sponsors dumping him. Me personally I don't believe gossip or rumors. You actually make yourself look worse by coming on here and trying to spread gossip. They do have a lady anglers section. You seem to be a better fit there.


To answer your question, I didn't mention his name out of respect for him and his sponsors. Respect is something you should look into. I talked with him again later last night and again he is convinced that BASS is going to do something on the Elites about FFS. His name is Matt Herron and after speaking with him again he doesn't mind me mentioning his name, and I'm simply relaying what he believes. (Not rumor or fake news). I disagree with him and Randy and the whole bunch of FFS haters, but they are entitled to their opinions. I have FFS and think it's awesome. My son Pake is 19 and in my opinion is about as good as comes using FFS. Kev or whatever your name is I'm a about to turn 60 and a full grown man. Your comment about me fitting in better in the ladies section is laughable. My personal opinion is that some of these old dogs need to learn some new tricks, or they will continue to get their butts handed to them. With that said, I don't hate them, I just disagree. I like what I heard on another place that maybe there should be a senior tournament trail with 18' boats 150 HP motors and limit them to a flasher on the dash and a 2d graph up front. For those that have not used FFS it's not as easy as some would lead you to believe. Does it help? Sure, if you put in the time to learn it.


Great response bsouth.

Rangerkev called me out not long ago on a thread about Cayuga too, when I provided more info and video supporting what I said he just went away and slipped into the weeds. Apparently his righteousness is reserved only for insulting people, not admitting when he's wrong.

On the FFS subject:
ogles824 hit it on the head I believe. It'll be a business decision between how much $ is at stake from electronics manufacturer sponsorships (and whether they'd truly be in jeopardy) vs. overall viewership of BASS and MLF tournaments. I have no idea how that breaks down....but it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

Re: Preach!!! [Re: Douglas J] #14828896 09/02/23 03:06 PM
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Question. How would the Elite fishing tournaments banning FFS hurt Garmin or Lowrance business? Would people suddenly stop buying FFS because of that move? If anything I would think it would increase sales do to the technology being so good that it got banned. Did everyone stop buying A-rigs when they got banned?

Re: Preach!!! [Re: Douglas J] #14828906 09/02/23 03:26 PM
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Douglas I honestly don't care who Brian is or how bad he is. And your idle threats about what you want to say are laughable. My point is I'm sick and tired of gossip on this forum. It's gotten to the point where gossip and unsubstantiated rumors are more important then fishing and helping others out. Which is why this forum was started. m not on here to make friends. I was fortunate to of found this forum in its early days. This was the absolute best place to offer or get help. Now we have all of these rumors and gossip and I can't say his name [censored]. Josh Jones got slaughtered on here because of men acting like kids. Many were so jealous they spread rumors about him. It was sad and pathetic. As an adult I don't tolerate gossip and rumors and unsubstantiated claims. I don't speak unless I know it's the honest truth and i dont hold back someones name. . As far as Brian I mentioned him coming on here and giving us the name. He does that after Matt posted a video talking about FFS. So it was easy to mentione his name now . Yall can continue your gossip columns on here as much as you want. Just like I can make my comments. I guess to some pathetic individuals on here asking or calling out others to not spread rumors without facts is a sin. Maybe the forum needs a gossip or liars or rumor section. I know quite a few that could get a lifetime membership free of charge. It's as if everyday I read a post of he did this or I heard this. But I can't say who told me or I don't have any evidence to prove it. Like I said it's sad. And anyone who questions me about speaking out on that is someone that I have no need for in my life. So unfortunately anything said about me from those type of people don't worry me. I hope all of yall have a great labor day weekend.


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Matt Herren, 30 years, zero wins, 19 top 10s. FFS is not his problem.


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Re: Preach!!! [Re: pchapin] #14829139 09/03/23 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pchapin
Matt Herren, 30 years, zero wins, 19 top 10s. FFS is not his problem.


Matt’s style of fishing through his career doesn’t lend to FFS being help. I would think most see Matt as primarily a mid depth to shallow water guy. That’s not the FFS sweet spot.

Generally adaptation through age has always been an issue. It happened long before FFS and likely will continue long after.

Nothing wrong with being able to make a living doing what you like for 30 years.


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Re: Preach!!! [Re: Douglas J] #14829630 09/04/23 02:38 AM
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Old people need to toughen up a bit. Nobody wants to hear old white guys whine.

Re: Preach!!! [Re: Rangerkev] #14829632 09/04/23 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rangerkev
Douglas I honestly don't care who Brian is or how bad he is. And your idle threats about what you want to say are laughable. My point is I'm sick and tired of gossip on this forum. It's gotten to the point where gossip and unsubstantiated rumors are more important then fishing and helping others out. Which is why this forum was started. m not on here to make friends. I was fortunate to of found this forum in its early days. This was the absolute best place to offer or get help. Now we have all of these rumors and gossip and I can't say his name [censored]. Josh Jones got slaughtered on here because of men acting like kids. Many were so jealous they spread rumors about him. It was sad and pathetic. As an adult I don't tolerate gossip and rumors and unsubstantiated claims. I don't speak unless I know it's the honest truth and i dont hold back someones name. . As far as Brian I mentioned him coming on here and giving us the name. He does that after Matt posted a video talking about FFS. So it was easy to mentione his name now . Yall can continue your gossip columns on here as much as you want. Just like I can make my comments. I guess to some pathetic individuals on here asking or calling out others to not spread rumors without facts is a sin. Maybe the forum needs a gossip or liars or rumor section. I know quite a few that could get a lifetime membership free of charge. It's as if everyday I read a post of he did this or I heard this. But I can't say who told me or I don't have any evidence to prove it. Like I said it's sad. And anyone who questions me about speaking out on that is someone that I have no need for in my life. So unfortunately anything said about me from those type of people don't worry me. I hope all of yall have a great labor day weekend.


I bet you are the life of the party.......

Re: Preach!!! [Re: Douglas J] #14829636 09/04/23 02:55 AM
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I would think the young spend more time on the water than the Olds, that is one reason they are probably better at ffs. If the Olds wanna be competive they better put in the time or be left behind. But not every tournament is won by ffs. Most hate change but you better imbrace it or you will be watching it on tv sooner than you want too.

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