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Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Allison1] #14771683 07/07/23 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Allison1
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Thats one possibility.

All the wild ones here, no matter how unlikely, may be right.
We just don't know but the wild stuff presented as if its Hunter is dumb IMO.

A tourist, an employee, Hunter or even someone planting it to cause a media frenzy could be at the bottom of it.
Hunter, because he left the WH two days before it was found and had been off cocaine for years and did not do powdered cocaine when he was a druggie are several pieces that lead me to believe he's the least likely to have done it.


Instead, Hunter/White House/cocaine and we have a show no matter what the evidence is.



This post, specifically saying Hunter is “least likely” and that he has been clean of cocaine for four years, is AT LEAST as bad as someone saying it 100% Hunter’s bag. But really, it’s worse, especially for someone claiming they’re using “common sense” while everyone assuming it’s Hunter’s bag are reaching and dumb.

It’s “wild stuff” to assume that the president’s adult son, who has a very well-documented history of drug use (thanks to him recording it extremely thoroughly), is at least as likely as anyone else to be the culprit, given that he is going to have more access and less security scrutiny than a visitor, low level staffer, or a nefarious actor planting drugs.

Hunter was discharged from the Navy after testing positive for cocaine. He’s had numerous relapses and been in rehab several times. Claiming he’s sober because he says so (or did four years ago) is “wild stuff” or at best, coming from someone who has no idea how drug addiction works for the majority of people.

Is there a chance it was someone else’s bag? Yes. But “common sense” would dictate you look at the most likely suspect and the rest of the circumstances: found in a non-visitor section of the White House, ignoring the fact that it’s extremely difficult for a visitor to smuggle illicit drugs into the White House, and if they did, the SS would know who it was within an hour after reviewing security footage and investigating. Oh, and the facts that the White House isn’t being forthcoming, the story continues to change and Hunter was there two days prior acting erratically make ruling Hunter out as emphatically as you are the opposite of common sense.

Get off your high horse, Allison. This is pathetic.


I didn't rule him out.
I just pointed out that from the beginning people have pointed at him without having any insight to it.

You make a good case and I did say that Hunter had been off cocaine for years without saying that I read that he said in 2019 that he had been off cocaine for 2 years then. Yes, that is coming from him and not the best source of information.

Would you agree that maybe having secret service around him 24 hours a day would make it harder for him to use cocaine?
I assume SS allows people it guards a wide berth but it would seem to be pretty obvious if he was still using now.




So, first you’re saying someone else brought cocaine into the White House, despite the obvious security measures in place for visitors and even staff. Now you’re saying the Secret Service would stop him from using cocaine. First, they’re a protective detail and not law enforcement in the capacity of protecting the first family. Second, the Bush twins were cited for underage drinking while Dubya was in office and they had 24 hour SS security. I feel like it’s a helluva lot easier to stop two underage college kids from drinking in a bar than it is a 53 year old from doing coke.

Outside of being a protective detail for Hunter, what are they going to do? Tackle him to the ground because a known addict and dipsh1t is continuing down a destructive path? It is obvious he is still using drugs now. He will be a lifelong user, if I had to make a bet. Have you seen the clip of him from the fireworks show at the White House this week? That’s not a sober person.

Die on whatever hill you want. Defending Hunter Biden, who is objectively a bad person, is odd to me. I’m not saying I don’t have some compassion for him, but he is not a good person.


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Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Tyler Kalishek] #14771687 07/07/23 08:52 PM
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I've dealt with a drug addict most of my life. 90% end up back on drugs. It could be Hunter or maybe it is why Kumala cackles all the time or maybe it is to give Joe a little snort to wake him up for press meetings. One way to find out is to test everyone in the white house including the Bidens. Once they get back on the dope they don't just quit.

Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Tyler Kalishek] #14771688 07/07/23 08:53 PM
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Drug test the government?


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Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Tyler Kalishek] #14771706 07/07/23 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Duck_Hunter
Originally Posted by Allison1
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Originally Posted by Allison1

Thats one possibility.

All the wild ones here, no matter how unlikely, may be right.
We just don't know but the wild stuff presented as if its Hunter is dumb IMO.

A tourist, an employee, Hunter or even someone planting it to cause a media frenzy could be at the bottom of it.
Hunter, because he left the WH two days before it was found and had been off cocaine for years and did not do powdered cocaine when he was a druggie are several pieces that lead me to believe he's the least likely to have done it.


Instead, Hunter/White House/cocaine and we have a show no matter what the evidence is.



This post, specifically saying Hunter is “least likely” and that he has been clean of cocaine for four years, is AT LEAST as bad as someone saying it 100% Hunter’s bag. But really, it’s worse, especially for someone claiming they’re using “common sense” while everyone assuming it’s Hunter’s bag are reaching and dumb.

It’s “wild stuff” to assume that the president’s adult son, who has a very well-documented history of drug use (thanks to him recording it extremely thoroughly), is at least as likely as anyone else to be the culprit, given that he is going to have more access and less security scrutiny than a visitor, low level staffer, or a nefarious actor planting drugs.

Hunter was discharged from the Navy after testing positive for cocaine. He’s had numerous relapses and been in rehab several times. Claiming he’s sober because he says so (or did four years ago) is “wild stuff” or at best, coming from someone who has no idea how drug addiction works for the majority of people.

Is there a chance it was someone else’s bag? Yes. But “common sense” would dictate you look at the most likely suspect and the rest of the circumstances: found in a non-visitor section of the White House, ignoring the fact that it’s extremely difficult for a visitor to smuggle illicit drugs into the White House, and if they did, the SS would know who it was within an hour after reviewing security footage and investigating. Oh, and the facts that the White House isn’t being forthcoming, the story continues to change and Hunter was there two days prior acting erratically make ruling Hunter out as emphatically as you are the opposite of common sense.

Get off your high horse, Allison. This is pathetic.


I didn't rule him out.
I just pointed out that from the beginning people have pointed at him without having any insight to it.

You make a good case and I did say that Hunter had been off cocaine for years without saying that I read that he said in 2019 that he had been off cocaine for 2 years then. Yes, that is coming from him and not the best source of information.

Would you agree that maybe having secret service around him 24 hours a day would make it harder for him to use cocaine?
I assume SS allows people it guards a wide berth but it would seem to be pretty obvious if he was still using now.




So, first you’re saying someone else brought cocaine into the White House, despite the obvious security measures in place for visitors and even staff. Now you’re saying the Secret Service would stop him from using cocaine. First, they’re a protective detail and not law enforcement in the capacity of protecting the first family. Second, the Bush twins were cited for underage drinking while Dubya was in office and they had 24 hour SS security. I feel like it’s a helluva lot easier to stop two underage college kids from drinking in a bar than it is a 53 year old from doing coke.

Outside of being a protective detail for Hunter, what are they going to do? Tackle him to the ground because a known addict and dipsh1t is continuing down a destructive path? It is obvious he is still using drugs now. He will be a lifelong user, if I had to make a bet. Have you seen the clip of him from the fireworks show at the White House this week? That’s not a sober person.

Die on whatever hill you want. Defending Hunter Biden, who is objectively a bad person, is odd to me. I’m not saying I don’t have some compassion for him, but he is not a good person.


Again, I didn't rule him out. Why are you continuing to say I did?
Since I didn't rule him out I obviously didn't say someone else brought cocaine into the WH.
I did not say that SS would stop him. I did say " I assume SS allows people it guards a wide berth but it would seem to be pretty obvious if he was still using now". I thought that means what you said, that they would see it but not do anything about it since as you say they are not a law enforcement agency. I only pointed out that through human nature he probably would not do it since the SS would see it. Maybe he would.

How often have you seen Hunter and why would you say "its obvious he's still using drugs now."? I can't say one way or another because I don't follow him around or know anything about him.

Back when Kennedy was president the SS saw all the girls he brought in when Jackie was not in the WH. They had parties. I remember a documentary about that era and one former SS agent said that he wouldn't go out to have a drink with the president if he had been asked since he liked the first lady and thought he was a louse.







Yes I saw the video, meme or whatever it was. It was about 3 seconds?
I honestly don't know what a coked up person looks like, especially by looking at a couple seconds.
Here is an admittedly very long video of the family. I don't know if it shows anything out of the ordinary.
Anyone here a drug counselor or cop that knows what they are looking at?



Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Tyler Kalishek] #14771717 07/07/23 09:13 PM
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So they found Hunters booger sugar.

Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Tyler Kalishek] #14771722 07/07/23 09:23 PM
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After watching the video clips of how he's acting.


The guy is flying. He's so coked up. He can't stand still.


I doubt it's his cocaine. It's a documented fact. He's a crack user.

Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Tyler Kalishek] #14771725 07/07/23 09:26 PM
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Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Tyler Kalishek] #14771736 07/07/23 09:38 PM
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Just think of all the drug dealers in prison who are now planning their appeals because “they were not there when the drugs were found”? That’s about the most idiotic defense I’ve heard. What’s even sadder is the amount of morons that are using that to defend the obvious suspect.

Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Tyler Kalishek] #14771739 07/07/23 09:40 PM
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Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Tyler Kalishek] #14771746 07/07/23 09:42 PM
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Maybe he's mad at Daddy?


The kid with a hooker isn't helping. You'd be nuts to think it'll get the Biden name. I bet that really made The Big Guy mad. Hell, you know it did.

So he drops a bag of coke on the carpet.

Take that, Dad.

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They can pinpoint and locate all the J6 protesters at the Capitol but they can't pinpoint a single person who dropped cocaine in the White House ...

Re: Cocaine found at White House [Re: Tyler Kalishek] #14771753 07/07/23 09:51 PM
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it's always funny to watch someone writhe in anguish when they know they are stupid and wrong.

a coke user is subject to use coke at the drop of a hat, bud shows up and offers a snort, run into a contact who turns you on to a "sample", just stressing out and seeking release are just some of what can start it up again.

for anyone to say hunter is not a prime suspect is not very knowledgeable about addicts and how that works.


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