I'd personally be willing to jump through more hoops if it were shown to have an actual impact. I think there are some ideas out there that would help, but I am not aware of any that would have changed this recent mall shooting. This guy appears to be a regular thug and I agree he was going to do what he was going to do no matter the hoops involved.


If the Government you are wanting to protect you would have red flagged this clown because he was discharged from the Military for mental health issues he would have had to steal the weapon instead of purchasing it legally. Don't you see the absurdity of the Fed making law on guns when they can't do something so simple as red flagging a nutjob? All they want is to disarm you. Look through the forest.

What do all the mass shooters have in common when their homes are searched? FPS video games and/or antidepressants, anti-anxiety, antipsychotic, mood stabilizing, or stimulant prescriptions.

To be fair, I'm talking about school shootings, mall shootings, etc. Not the official .gov interpretation that includes gang bangers capping each other.

I'll bet a dollar to donuts that Mauricio Garcia had both COD and Adderall (or something similar) in his nasty little apartment.

It wouldnt take too many lunatics getting killed within seconds of pulling out their gun for the other lunatics to realize it’s a really really really bad choice. I bet it would virtually eliminate gun crimes.

The one REAL result of these horrible acts is the shooter feels a sense of control over everyone and everything during their rampage. My plan of arming every single person in the country would eliminate that sense of control. They wouldn’t have any.

Most of these thugs are little, wimpy people. “Soft” physically and weak mentally. They live their lives with everyone always being bigger or smarter. They think they can achieve control with a weapon. If they knew for a fact that harming others wouldn’t create the control they desire, they’d have to find it some other way. It wouldn’t be by shooting people.

Maybe they’d just turn to IED’s. Hell. Who knows.

This
no such thing as gun control

it’s taking your guns

The problem is that when the rubber meets the road, we don't live in a society of Rambos.

Keep in mind this dude was dropped right where he popped out of his Dodge Charger (always sketchy people in Chargers) by a cop who just happened to be there, and he still did the damage he did.

A world where bystanders instantly engage instead of freeze, or run, or whatever, just isn't realistic, I don't believe. Those engagers are too few and far between to rely on as the solution. Just my thought on it.

No, gun control is a function of sight alignment and trigger pull.

I started to read this thread, but gave up after the first page. So I'll just ask a question that I've been asking for years, and have yet to receive a valid answer to:

Can any of you proponents of gun control explain exactly how banning guns will end violence? We've had violence since before the advent of firearms. Y'all want to blame guns for the violence that is largely a result of all the hate POLITICIANS and LIBERAL EDUCATORS and POLITICALLY ENDORSED ACTIVISTS are working so hard to generate. If a reckless driver mows down a bunch of pedestrians, is it the car's fault or the driver's? If a robber uses a knife (or a club, or a firearm, or a fist) to assault a victim, is it the knife, club, firearm, fist's fault, or the robber's fault?

These gun control politicians keep telling us (and Biden's said it HUNDREDS of times) that gun control has been proven to stop crime. But that's a lie, and I'd like one of you gun control proponents to show us that proof -- without manipulating or fabricating statistics the way our dedicated politicians do. Banning street drugs hasn't stopped the overdoses and the crimes committed by dopers. And street drugs have no legitimate use in society; yet you think that by banning firearms -- which do serve legitimate uses -- the crooks will just turn them in? Do you believe that if every firearm in the world was to magically disappear, that criminals would instantly turn nonviolent? To propose penalizing millions of law-abiding firearms owners for a false sense of security is stupid -- unless you're a corrupt politician intent on disarming the constituency, or you're a butch sanders who still believes after being shown otherwise that you can order up a firearm on the internet, send in some fake ID, and receive the firearm, mailed to your door.

So, somebody who thinks banning guns will end all violence, please step up and explain how you believe that will work in the real world.

And think about this: If our diaper-sh!tter in chief spent the taxpayers' money that he has used to create and finance a European war in what is arguably the most corrupt nation in Europe, to provide real mental health services in this country, do you think that might have an impact on some of this senseless violence and hate?

Well let's see what the SCOTUS thinks on the issue. It is a constitutional right that you are willing to give up to get some sense of personal security. I'm not. Apparently the shooter was discharged from the military for mental issues...so once again the government's failure falls on us to give up rights. Odd how that keeps happening...yet some still think the government is here to help.

you did not show me anything
the internet is a scam machine
for more that just guns

that cat had neck tattoos
a human could spot a problem

the solution is not to ban guns
but make it a little harder
there is 1 type of weapon that is used in most of these shootings

i never said they would send it to your door either
i have shown you the way

Is your mower broke?
The hedges need trimming.

i don't need a mower
i mow that S down with a Barrett