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Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news #14687590 04/11/23 05:20 PM
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https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/after-nearly-a-4-year-ban-bump-stocks-are-available-in-texas/

https://bumpstock.com/product-category/bump-stocks/

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/396/text?s=1&r=11

Wow. Alot happening all at once here. A company is now selling commercially made bump stocks to buyers in Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi - the states covered by the 5th Circuit.

At the same time, Congress is batting about a bill to categorize bump stocks as machine guns under the GCA of 1968, with a neat provision. It would allow a person to register an otherwise lawful bump stock with ATF in the same way that a machine gun is registered.

I don't quite know what to think. With all the brouhaha about registering AR pistols, I wonder how many people would register bump stocks?


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Re: Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news [Re: Uncle Zeek] #14687601 04/11/23 05:31 PM
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I can't imagine someone wanting a bumpstock so bad that they'd be willing to register it.

Re: Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news [Re: Uncle Zeek] #14687613 04/11/23 05:39 PM
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Anybody that wants a real full auto weapon can pony up the money and get one...average cost for an M16A4 is in the 25 K range...:) Only half the price of a used bass boat...:)

Re: Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news [Re: Techfisher] #14687626 04/11/23 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Techfisher
Anybody that wants a real full auto weapon can pony up the money and get one...average cost for an M16A4 is in the 25 K range...:) Only half the price of a used bass boat...:)






H&H gun range used to have a case with nothing but full auto capable weapons, last time I was there they had 4 m16s @ 20k ea. had some others but don't remember what.

next time you are around meridian and 40 stop by and see what they have.


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Re: Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news [Re: Uncle Zeek] #14687628 04/11/23 05:55 PM
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I can grab a belt loop and do the same thing.

novelty item that costs a fortune to keep fed. nuts


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Re: Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news [Re: Uncle Zeek] #14687655 04/11/23 06:23 PM
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Regardless of their practical uses, the travesty in this was:

1 - the precedent that was set (well, almost) by making something illegal ex post facto and not giving fair compensation for it. flag
2 - multiple sections of the constitution being disregarded mad
3 - that so many people think Trump was on the side of gunowners yet still made a decision to attempt to disregard the Constitution with instructions to the AG to find a way to get them banned. dunce

Re: Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news [Re: bassfishinglawyer] #14687662 04/11/23 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bassfishinglawyer
Regardless of their practical uses, the travesty in this was:

1 - the precedent that was set (well, almost) by making something illegal ex post facto and not giving fair compensation for it. flag
2 - multiple sections of the constitution being disregarded mad
3 - that so many people think Trump was on the side of gunowners yet still made a decision to attempt to disregard the Constitution with instructions to the AG to find a way to get them banned. dunce

Agreed, this is the same route as the Pistol brace issue. It's a joke. It's something previously approved that was then tried to make illegal after the fact... Just like the Pistol Brace, the bumpstocks and "wavier" of a atf fee is a foot in the door to registering guns... How long till they back it off again and then come back for it knowing where you are. Not to mention to own machine guns you have to have a special license from the ATF that also leaves you open to random inspections from the ATF last I checked... Tired of the governemt approving things and then making law abiding citizens criminals by going back and banning it after the fact.


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Re: Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news [Re: stuntmandave] #14687691 04/11/23 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stuntmandave
Originally Posted by bassfishinglawyer
Regardless of their practical uses, the travesty in this was:

1 - the precedent that was set (well, almost) by making something illegal ex post facto and not giving fair compensation for it. flag
2 - multiple sections of the constitution being disregarded mad
3 - that so many people think Trump was on the side of gunowners yet still made a decision to attempt to disregard the Constitution with instructions to the AG to find a way to get them banned. dunce

Agreed, this is the same route as the Pistol brace issue. It's a joke. It's something previously approved that was then tried to make illegal after the fact... Just like the Pistol Brace, the bumpstocks and "wavier" of a atf fee is a foot in the door to registering guns... How long till they back it off again and then come back for it knowing where you are. Not to mention to own machine guns you have to have a special license from the ATF that also leaves you open to random inspections from the ATF last I checked... Tired of the governemt approving things and then making law abiding citizens criminals by going back and banning it after the fact.

I believe that if you are willing to pony up for a full auto manufactured prior to 1968, you only need the $200 tax stamp, same as a suppressor. However, if you want one that was manufactured after 1968, then you have to have an FFL SOT licence that opens you up to inspections just like any other FFL.


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Re: Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news [Re: Uncle Zeek] #14687813 04/11/23 09:22 PM
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Belt loop technique works pretty good


call it what you will...he is not definitely not anywhere near the top of the list for QB's that I would choose needing a FG or touchdown drive late in the game.
Re: Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news [Re: bassfishinglawyer] #14687857 04/11/23 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bassfishinglawyer
Regardless of their practical uses, the travesty in this was:

1 - the precedent that was set (well, almost) by making something illegal ex post facto and not giving fair compensation for it. flag
2 - multiple sections of the constitution being disregarded mad
3 - that so many people think Trump was on the side of gunowners yet still made a decision to attempt to disregard the Constitution with instructions to the AG to find a way to get them banned. dunce


Agreed. One of his biggest failures was that ban.


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Originally Posted by Unclebubba
Originally Posted by stuntmandave
Originally Posted by bassfishinglawyer
Regardless of their practical uses, the travesty in this was:

1 - the precedent that was set (well, almost) by making something illegal ex post facto and not giving fair compensation for it. flag
2 - multiple sections of the constitution being disregarded mad
3 - that so many people think Trump was on the side of gunowners yet still made a decision to attempt to disregard the Constitution with instructions to the AG to find a way to get them banned. dunce

Agreed, this is the same route as the Pistol brace issue. It's a joke. It's something previously approved that was then tried to make illegal after the fact... Just like the Pistol Brace, the bumpstocks and "wavier" of a atf fee is a foot in the door to registering guns... How long till they back it off again and then come back for it knowing where you are. Not to mention to own machine guns you have to have a special license from the ATF that also leaves you open to random inspections from the ATF last I checked... Tired of the governemt approving things and then making law abiding citizens criminals by going back and banning it after the fact.

I believe that if you are willing to pony up for a full auto manufactured prior to 1968, you only need the $200 tax stamp, same as a suppressor. However, if you want one that was manufactured after 1968, then you have to have an FFL SOT licence that opens you up to inspections just like any other FFL.


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Re: Huh, I must've been under a rock - bump stock news [Re: stuntmandave] #14687866 04/11/23 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by stuntmandave
Originally Posted by bassfishinglawyer
Regardless of their practical uses, the travesty in this was:

1 - the precedent that was set (well, almost) by making something illegal ex post facto and not giving fair compensation for it. flag
2 - multiple sections of the constitution being disregarded mad
3 - that so many people think Trump was on the side of gunowners yet still made a decision to attempt to disregard the Constitution with instructions to the AG to find a way to get them banned. dunce

Agreed, this is the same route as the Pistol brace issue. It's a joke. It's something previously approved that was then tried to make illegal after the fact... Just like the Pistol Brace, the bumpstocks and "wavier" of a atf fee is a foot in the door to registering guns... How long till they back it off again and then come back for it knowing where you are. Not to mention to own machine guns you have to have a special license from the ATF that also leaves you open to random inspections from the ATF last I checked... Tired of the governemt approving things and then making law abiding citizens criminals by going back and banning it after the fact.



I am still waiting on someone to tell me just how the hell an agency of non elected aholes can suddenly change things causing some to become felons for legally purchased guns. they don't have the authority to suddenly create a new law which is what they did, if it is not a new law then how can it be a felony for non compliance?

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ridiculous addition to a fire arm
i think it would cause jams

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Originally Posted by hopalong
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Anybody that wants a real full auto weapon can pony up the money and get one...average cost for an M16A4 is in the 25 K range...:) Only half the price of a used bass boat...:)






H&H gun range used to have a case with nothing but full auto capable weapons, last time I was there they had 4 m16s @ 20k ea. had some others but don't remember what.

next time you are around meridian and 40 stop by and see what they have.
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This would be a good investment as the civilian manufacture of automatic weapons for civilian use stopped in 1986.

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Originally Posted by TR176
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Originally Posted by Techfisher
Anybody that wants a real full auto weapon can pony up the money and get one...average cost for an M16A4 is in the 25 K range...:) Only half the price of a used bass boat...:)






H&H gun range used to have a case with nothing but full auto capable weapons, last time I was there they had 4 m16s @ 20k ea. had some others but don't remember what.

next time you are around meridian and 40 stop by and see what they have.
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This would be a good investment as the civilian manufacture of automatic weapons for civilian use stopped in 1986.


this was between 08 and 12 (see obie gun bs/shortages) then I moved back to Tx. the 16s were the real deal and would have been legal with the stamp, buy shares in remington next. lol

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