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Re: Question on PVS plugs
[Re: Douglas J]
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03/13/23 12:39 AM
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Put a hydraulic plate on it and your troubles will be diminished greatly I thought about it. If I have a 12” plate on it, should I get a hydraulic plate AND another regular plate that would equal 12” together? With a good hyd plate you can come out of the hole with the motor up higher to spin a bigger prop and come down with the plate as you get on pad. I have always run my boats very heavy and a hyd plate makes the hole shot so much better. You do not have to prop down to get the rpms to have a good hole shot. Good info. I didn’t know that motor height effected the holeshot that much. Makes sense though. Which ones are good ones?
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 12:43 AM
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Steez, I ran my SHO with just one plug for years and never noticed any vibration. I also finally pulled last plug too and it still doesn’t blow out as long as I feather the throttle a bit on break over.
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 12:58 AM
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Steez, I ran my SHO with just one plug for years and never noticed any vibration. I also finally pulled last plug too and it still doesn’t blow out as long as I feather the throttle a bit on break over. Hmmmm. This thing shook hard. I went right back to the ramp and put the plugs back in. As for the blow out, I couldn’t feather it to get on pad. If I lifted the pedal a little, it slipped back down into the water, if I kept it going, the rpm’s shot up to 6500. Felt like a truck spinning it’s tires in the mud.
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 01:24 AM
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Put a hydraulic plate on it and your troubles will be diminished greatly I thought about it. If I have a 12” plate on it, should I get a hydraulic plate AND another regular plate that would equal 12” together? With a good hyd plate you can come out of the hole with the motor up higher to spin a bigger prop and come down with the plate as you get on pad. I have always run my boats very heavy and a hyd plate makes the hole shot so much better. You do not have to prop down to get the rpms to have a good hole shot. Good info. I didn’t know that motor height effected the holeshot that much. Makes sense though. Which ones are good ones? I've had 3 boats with Atlas and my current '22 boat has a Bob's and both perform very well.
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 01:27 AM
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Steez, I ran my SHO with just one plug for years and never noticed any vibration. I also finally pulled last plug too and it still doesn’t blow out as long as I feather the throttle a bit on break over. Hmmmm. This thing shook hard. I went right back to the ramp and put the plugs back in. As for the blow out, I couldn’t feather it to get on pad. If I lifted the pedal a little, it slipped back down into the water, if I kept it going, the rpm’s shot up to 6500. Felt like a truck spinning it’s tires in the mud. You have something wrong besides the vent plugs
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 01:35 AM
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Steez, I ran my SHO with just one plug for years and never noticed any vibration. I also finally pulled last plug too and it still doesn’t blow out as long as I feather the throttle a bit on break over. Hmmmm. This thing shook hard. I went right back to the ramp and put the plugs back in. As for the blow out, I couldn’t feather it to get on pad. If I lifted the pedal a little, it slipped back down into the water, if I kept it going, the rpm’s shot up to 6500. Felt like a truck spinning it’s tires in the mud. You have something wrong besides the vent plugs Could it be the hub kit?
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 01:40 AM
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Steez, I ran my SHO with just one plug for years and never noticed any vibration. I also finally pulled last plug too and it still doesn’t blow out as long as I feather the throttle a bit on break over. Hmmmm. This thing shook hard. I went right back to the ramp and put the plugs back in. As for the blow out, I couldn’t feather it to get on pad. If I lifted the pedal a little, it slipped back down into the water, if I kept it going, the rpm’s shot up to 6500. Felt like a truck spinning it’s tires in the mud. You have something wrong besides the vent plugs Could it be the hub kit? Could be. I just know it's definitely not the vent plugs
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 01:59 AM
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I would check hub insert / kit, sounds like it's either the wrong one or thrust washer isn't letting it get torqued down completely and could cause the vibration
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 02:44 AM
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I’ll pull the prop tomorrow and check it. I have to stop at Ace and get more stainless cotter pins.
Thanks guys.
It’s not torqued down. I put it on. I just kinda snugged it up and stuck a pin in it. I read where it’s supposed to be much tighter. Duh I was thinking Yamaha prop kinda tight. Not hub adapter tight.
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 11:35 AM
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I’ll pull the prop tomorrow and check it. I have to stop at Ace and get more stainless cotter pins.
Thanks guys.
It’s not torqued down. I put it on. I just kinda snugged it up and stuck a pin in it. I read where it’s supposed to be much tighter. Duh I was thinking Yamaha prop kinda tight. Not hub adapter tight. That could be the problem. Flo Torque is recommended 55 pounds torque.
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 12:05 PM
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I’m sure you know, but make sure you’re using a thrust washer made for the Yamaha. The Merc washer is a bit different and the prop won’t seat down properly.
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
[Re: grout-scout]
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03/13/23 12:11 PM
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I’m sure you know, but make sure you’re using a thrust washer made for the Yamaha. The Merc washer is a bit different and the prop won’t seat down properly. I used the thrust washer from the kit. The Yamaha thrust washer is on the shelf with my old prop. I did notice the new washer was shaped differently, but I followed the directions. I’ll check it all out this evening. I’m a prop newbie. I just want to install it and go. I should know it wouldn’t be that easy.
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 12:37 PM
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steez, next time out (with all 3 sizes of plug) start with 3 med. and run it.
if it blows out or seems to not spin up quick enough adjust accordingly, you may need one of ea. size or 2 of one and one of another etc.
my tempests on the champion/johnson liked one solid one med and one small.
what size boat do you have, jackplate related.
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 12:47 PM
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put it on a hose and put it in gear you will see its the prop or hub not the plugs they have no effect other than hole shot
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Re: Question on PVS plugs
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03/13/23 12:54 PM
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I pulled and yanked on the prop when I passed by the boat this morning. The prop wiggled a tiny bit. I know a tiny amount will be worse under load. I feel like y’all’s suggestions are getting me there.
I don’t have the correct hose “muffs” for a Yamaha. The ones I have are for my old Mercury. I think. Are they different?
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