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Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: Douglas J] #14530812 11/10/22 02:14 AM
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Yep his YouTube channel is growing fast he’s found his niche in the YouTube game and it’s paying off big time

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Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: prosise] #14530858 11/10/22 02:44 AM
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Randy could run circles around most of us, don't be a keyboard warrior. He is the real deal, and Has allot of experience. I do have LS, but I also think it's something that is very helpful putting together a pattern. But, head to head fishing without electronics is when the rubber meats the road.
It's not a level of playing field in HS tournaments when some have it and others don't. But you cannot go out and have it understand fully in a couple trips. There are some really strange settings that make it shine.


Kudos to those who are "mad at 'em" and just go out and fish...



Not a level playing field? What’s next? Participation trophies? Level playing fields don’t exist. Somebody ALWAYS has an advantage. 10 years ago when I was in HS I showed $250-400 pigs against kids showing $15,000+ show pigs that they raised in $75,000+ climate controlled buildings. I played golf against kids who had 3 $150 golf lessons every week since they were 9 years old. I played football with and against guys who had high dollar personal trainers and went to every expensive summer football camp in the country it seemed like. Such is life. There will ALWAYS be something to cry about if you’re sitting on the sidelines looking for something to cry about. But the energy spent crying about a level playing field could instead be used learning to fish with what you’ve got.


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Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: cephusjoe] #14530910 11/10/22 03:37 AM
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I have a simple solution for Randy and the "millions of anglers that don't like live scope fishing" as he puts it, they can start their own pro circuit. They can go back to the days of the past. Get a 17.5 bass boat with a 150hp motor, and a trolling motor. No spot lock, no power poles, and no graphs. Just go out and use your skills to fish. Randy can make his own rules as he likes. That should make those "millions" of anglers happy.


You mock the idea. But I can see this happening. Maybe not to the extreme your saying, but weren’t under water cameras banned in most fishing tournaments?



And you will quickly end up with no tour sponsors to help pay the bills of that organization.

Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: Douglas J] #14531269 11/10/22 03:28 PM
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I rarely comment on here....But this gets me. The anglers that can semi consistently catch fish exclusively using livescope are limited. To think that you can pay $5,000 plus for a unit dial it in and roll the the lake and catch them is foolish. Anglers that are good at FFS have not spent hundreds of hours learning their craft..... They've spent thousands of hours. Years and years. Watching them on YouTube makes it seem easy. It's not! I liken it to someone who has spent a lifetime locating and catching fish offshore, a flipper that can make pinpoint casts and doesn't switch hands because he's going to make 100 more flips than you that day, a jig skipper that can fish for bass under docks that others cant reach, or perhaps a savvy old veteran that can make bait modifications to give themself an edge. I believe FFS for the masses (myself included) is the best way to zero in a tournament. I've been in the boat with one of the best several times and the subtle things he does as far as boat position, bait presentation and understanding the fishes mood is what separates "the men from the boys".

Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: Gungle] #14532712 11/11/22 05:38 PM
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Yeah, he said professional bass anglers can't make a living unless they have a side gig. One was a presence on social media and clicks. That's why he produces content most every day and sometime twice a day. When I listen to his tournament practice videos and the tournament results I almost feel sorry for him as his results are mostly dismal. And that's always after a long drive away from Missouri. When he went to Lake Hartwell and complained that the tournament would be won by LiveScopers finding fish and brush on points, I suggested he go out on the points with down imaging and find and mark some brush piles. I guess he didn't do it.


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Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: prosise] #14532714 11/11/22 05:40 PM
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I'm with Randy😎



Ditto.. Never heard him preach politics, just fishing and all related.

He is big on government intervention about climate change. That's pretty political.


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Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: LakeTylerMan] #14532762 11/11/22 06:28 PM
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I'm with Randy😎



Ditto.. Never heard him preach politics, just fishing and all related.

He is big on government intervention about climate change. That's pretty political.


I think everyone should have the freedom to do what they want, that is what it's all about. I don't see or hear him ranting about politice, but I only watch the videos that look interesting. I think with what I hear from him on his videos, it's interesting and informative to a new angler. Heck, even I have learned some things from him. "You don't know, what you don't know." Anyone who shares a passion for Bass, is honest, and genuine is good in my book. I have several friends that "We agree to disagree". But they are dear friends, and it doesn't come between us. When we fish it's seamless, and I certainly do not have to think about what I say. I could care less if someone has a passion for climate change, or whatever it may be. Let's put all that on the plate and have a good chew while we fish. I am not someone who likes to debate, and I do not talk politics. I love to fish, and enjoy spending time with my son out there. There is a reason they call it the land of the free.. Kudos to him, and I hope he and his family are blessed doing whatever they want to do.. I have said it many times, there are many people out there that could really benefit from some time on the water wetting a line. Too much drama, life is too short. Let's go fishing... But don't long arm the fish smile , don't be the long arm bandit..

That's my cause for the next few years, then I might go for "Save the Fire ants to see how much fun I can have".. Laughter is so good for the heart.....

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Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: Douglas J] #14533252 11/12/22 03:43 AM
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To me, Randy is old school. He is not willing to adjust to the latest technology, it has hurt him competition-wise, so now everything that comes out that he will not adjust to is bad. It is one thing to not want to use FFS, but to say it is bad for everything and everybody because he is inflexible just makes him sound like a whiner.

Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: FXfromTx] #14533323 11/12/22 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by prosise
Randy could run circles around most of us, don't be a keyboard warrior. He is the real deal, and Has allot of experience. I do have LS, but I also think it's something that is very helpful putting together a pattern. But, head to head fishing without electronics is when the rubber meats the road.
It's not a level of playing field in HS tournaments when some have it and others don't. But you cannot go out and have it understand fully in a couple trips. There are some really strange settings that make it shine.


Kudos to those who are "mad at 'em" and just go out and fish...



Not a level playing field? What’s next? Participation trophies? Level playing fields don’t exist. Somebody ALWAYS has an advantage. 10 years ago when I was in HS I showed $250-400 pigs against kids showing $15,000+ show pigs that they raised in $75,000+ climate controlled buildings. I played golf against kids who had 3 $150 golf lessons every week since they were 9 years old. I played football with and against guys who had high dollar personal trainers and went to every expensive summer football camp in the country it seemed like. Such is life. There will ALWAYS be something to cry about if you’re sitting on the sidelines looking for something to cry about. But the energy spent crying about a level playing field could instead be used learning to fish with what you’ve got.



Well said, and this is very common. Seen it, and experienced it. But I will say this, It sure does feel good when you beat them. Many of the silver spoon/trust fund babies don't have the heart or passion than many others do. And they seem to just shrug it off and go do something else like it's no big deal. But the person who really dedicated his time and available finances into will really surprise you. I used to fish tourneys heavily in the 90's in and around Austin/and the hill country. There was a young man about my same age that had a 13ft aluminum boat, and maybe a 10 horse power motor. He had a igloo cooler setup with an aerator for fish. That guy could fish, and he did well. He couldn't run anywhere, but he also had a line in the water more than most. He was forced to launch near the weigh in, and still would typically be in the top 25% of any tourney. It's not the arrow, it's the Indian. Confidence within is an amazing thing. Anyhoo, FXfromTX is very correct in his observation.

Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: Douglas J] #14533341 11/12/22 01:37 PM
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Sounds like a case of FOMO!


Just one more cast!

Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: Douglas J] #14533706 11/12/22 11:02 PM
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If he believes in climate change being a problem he's a moron


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Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: Douglas J] #14533821 11/13/22 01:32 AM
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Climate change is .......Fall, Winter, Spring and Summer, Wet, Dry, Windy, including its direction, or No Wind.. Pretty simple. The only problem with that is when it is too bad to go fish. LOL

Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: Douglas J] #14539238 11/18/22 01:46 AM
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IMHO, Randy puts out great content on his podcast. He has one of the few bassfishing channels on YouTube that shares detailed information on lure presentations, techniques, lure tweeks and places to find bass when it's tough.
I don't agree with everything that the guy says but when you've put in the time on the water and fished on the top levels of the sport for over 20yrs winning or not, he has the right to express his opinion on issues that affect the sport that he loves and has been involved in without getting roasted on social media just because his opinions are not the status quo. He had livescope on his boat and took it off,and he expresses his displeasure with certain aspects of professional bassfishing and environmental issues. I don't see it as whining, he's just sharing his opinion on some of the things that he's observed over the years just like alot of other professional anglers do on their channels. I even heard someone here mentioning something about his political stances and religion, wtf does any of that have to do with bassfishing or the man's character? Seems in this day and time, people get slammed/slashed canceled not for what they do but simply for what they say. I guess free speech in this country has gone the way of common sense,a thing of the past.

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Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: Douglas J] #14539291 11/18/22 02:31 AM
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Seems like this “free speech” works both ways. I suppose we can free speech about his hypocrisy.

Re: Live Scope Depression [Re: Douglas J] #14539336 11/18/22 03:24 AM
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True, I guess you guys can pile on me now seems to be the way these days. Whether you agree or disagree with FFS, anyone especially a seasoned pro should be able to voice his opinion without being roasted. Just my opinion and we all know what they say about opinions, everybody has one and ..........you know the rest.

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