texasfishingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
tdollins, billyj293, BX19gti, Likesfishing, db89
119201 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
TexDawg 119,893
Bigbob_FTW 95,575
John175☮ 85,945
Pilothawk 83,280
Bob Davis 82,785
Mark Perry 72,533
Derek 🐝 68,325
JDavis7873 67,416
Forum Statistics
Forums59
Topics1,039,354
Posts13,963,289
Members144,201
Most Online39,925
Dec 30th, 2023
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: ChanceHuiet] #14538515 11/17/22 04:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 632
O
OkAce Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
O
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 632
Originally Posted by ChanceHuiet
Originally Posted by emorydog
So did they change things and not cut anyone? And did they then change qualification rules to re-qualify? Then did they change the field number and added spots to make more money? And didn’t they change qualifying to now you have to fish a 9 tournament trail to advance to elites? And did I hear the no info rules don’t apply at the Opens level still? And then did I hear a bunch of guys are quitting? Sounds like a MLF thread but its Bass. It’s all the same HAHA...don’t you see.

It's nothing like MLF. The only thing BASS did was not cut anyone due to adjusting the field size. They changed the Opdns qualification for NEXT YEAR. MLF changes half their carp DURING the year


The only difference is no one flips out when BASS changes things

Moritz Chevrolet - 9101 Camp Bowie W Blvd, Fort Worth, TX - Monte Coon (817) 696-2003
Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: Mark Perry] #14539418 11/18/22 11:31 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,000
Neal G Offline
Extreme Angler
Offline
Extreme Angler
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,000
BASS probably starting at a higher number of anglers because they are expecting a higher number of dropouts during the season next year. 2024 will force a reduction with 9 coming from 2023 Opens. No more kicking the can down the road.

Or (conspiracy theory) to run the Elite field size up over next couple of years by bringing back some BPT anglers to crush MLF as marketing $s shrink with the upcoming economy issues.

Old timers sticking around that were once great is just another example that this sport is first/primarily Marketing and a distant second a competition

Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: Mark Perry] #14540101 11/18/22 11:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,598
F
Fishspanker Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
F
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,598
Fritts isn’t competitive. Should have cut him. 92 of 94 this year. 91 of 100 in 2021. 81 of 88 in 2020. 75 of 75 in 2019. 97 of 110 in 2018.

It’s named “The Elite Series”. Nothing Elite about those numbers.

Clouse has been just about as close tot he bottom. He has one less year.

Last edited by Fishspanker; 11/18/22 11:13 PM.

The Sheep who only fears the Wolf is eaten by the Shepherd.
Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: Mark Perry] #14540116 11/18/22 11:27 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 16,322
Chris B Online Content
TFF Guru
Online Content
TFF Guru
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 16,322
I have no problem with two spots for legends. Its not taking away a spot from anyone. I was surprised to see Fritts back. He said at the last weigh in he was done and retiring.


[Linked Image]
I hate photobucket.
Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: OkAce] #14540238 11/19/22 01:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,794
slim 285 Online Content
TFF Celebrity
Online Content
TFF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,794
Originally Posted by OkAce
Originally Posted by ChanceHuiet
Originally Posted by emorydog
So did they change things and not cut anyone? And did they then change qualification rules to re-qualify? Then did they change the field number and added spots to make more money? And didn’t they change qualifying to now you have to fish a 9 tournament trail to advance to elites? And did I hear the no info rules don’t apply at the Opens level still? And then did I hear a bunch of guys are quitting? Sounds like a MLF thread but its Bass. It’s all the same HAHA...don’t you see.

It's nothing like MLF. The only thing BASS did was not cut anyone due to adjusting the field size. They changed the Opdns qualification for NEXT YEAR. MLF changes half their carp DURING the year


The only difference is no one flips out when BASS changes things

Everyone’s loves BASS . It’s the ( more little fish ) organization no ones gives a dam about

Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: ChanceHuiet] #14540263 11/19/22 02:16 AM
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 5,291
D
Dubee Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
D
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 5,291
Originally Posted by ChanceHuiet
Originally Posted by emorydog
So did they change things and not cut anyone? And did they then change qualification rules to re-qualify? Then did they change the field number and added spots to make more money? And didn’t they change qualifying to now you have to fish a 9 tournament trail to advance to elites? And did I hear the no info rules don’t apply at the Opens level still? And then did I hear a bunch of guys are quitting? Sounds like a MLF thread but its Bass. It’s all the same HAHA...don’t you see.

It's nothing like MLF. The only thing BASS did was not cut anyone due to adjusting the field size. They changed the Opdns qualification for NEXT YEAR. MLF changes half their carp DURING the year


It's exactly like MLF. Constantly moving the goalpost. Zero difference

Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: Dubee] #14540276 11/19/22 02:36 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 16,196
G
grout-scout Online Sleepy
TFF Guru
Online Sleepy
TFF Guru
G
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 16,196
Originally Posted by Dubee
Originally Posted by ChanceHuiet
Originally Posted by emorydog
So did they change things and not cut anyone? And did they then change qualification rules to re-qualify? Then did they change the field number and added spots to make more money? And didn’t they change qualifying to now you have to fish a 9 tournament trail to advance to elites? And did I hear the no info rules don’t apply at the Opens level still? And then did I hear a bunch of guys are quitting? Sounds like a MLF thread but its Bass. It’s all the same HAHA...don’t you see.

It's nothing like MLF. The only thing BASS did was not cut anyone due to adjusting the field size. They changed the Opdns qualification for NEXT YEAR. MLF changes half their carp DURING the year


It's exactly like MLF. Constantly moving the goalpost. Zero difference



I agree, stuff like this is why I had quit watching BASS years ago. When the old guys always had an exemption or some loophole to never get kicked off, I didn’t like it. I don’t care what your name is, if you aren’t good enough to compete, you should get knocked down to the minors.

Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: Mark Perry] #14541383 11/20/22 02:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 978
L
LeonSulak Offline
Pro Angler
Offline
Pro Angler
L
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 978
I just saw Casey Scanlon is switching from “FLW/MLF” to go “back where it all started”. He also mentions that “unfortunately the league has not been the same since the MLF purchase.”

I wonder if BASS let them back in the Elites without qualifying, a bunch would jump. Problem is if they did than many people would be pissed.

Last edited by LeonSulak; 11/20/22 02:00 PM.

Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: Mark Perry] #14541420 11/20/22 02:33 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 16,322
Chris B Online Content
TFF Guru
Online Content
TFF Guru
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 16,322
Word is MLF is calling way down the list of the Toyota series trying to get anglers for the Invitationals. Seems the anglers are not keen on the lower payouts and no championship. Shame how they have run the old FLW into the ground.


[Linked Image]
I hate photobucket.
Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: Mark Perry] #14541455 11/20/22 02:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 16,196
G
grout-scout Online Sleepy
TFF Guru
Online Sleepy
TFF Guru
G
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 16,196
Beartrap says “fake news”, the BPT/MLF is the greatest thing to ever happen in the industry.

Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: LeonSulak] #14541575 11/20/22 04:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,598
F
Fishspanker Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
F
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,598
Originally Posted by LeonSulak
I just saw Casey Scanlon is switching from “FLW/MLF” to go “back where it all started”. He also mentions that “unfortunately the league has not been the same since the MLF purchase.”

I wonder if BASS let them back in the Elites without qualifying, a bunch would jump. Problem is if they did than many people would be pissed.


I don’t see BASS ever allowing anyone back without qualifying beyond the two legend exemptions.. It would not sit well with those who stayed and carried BASS thru or to the others currently on the BASS roster. BASS wasn’t thrilled with them leaving either. Also,some dumped on the BASS 5 fish weigh ins over weigh in the boat. The way some handled the whole thing BASS doesn’t care if they ever come back.BASS doesn’t need them to be at the top of the sport. It will be interesting to see who tries to qualify back and who makes it. Also what the max number BASS sets the Elites at.

Last edited by Fishspanker; 11/20/22 04:41 PM.

The Sheep who only fears the Wolf is eaten by the Shepherd.
Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: grout-scout] #14541577 11/20/22 04:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 72,533
Mark Perry Online Content OP
Super Freak
OP Online Content
Super Freak
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 72,533
Originally Posted by grout-scout
Beartrap says “fake news”, the BPT/MLF is the greatest thing to ever happen in the industry.



Beartrap may be disappointed. Gerald Spohrer was on a podcast last week speaking of all the MLF/BPat changes and ge was pretty blunt. He seems to be a straight shooter. He had a lot of good info on the how, why and such of the changes. One thing he pointed out after speaking with MLF management and Duckett is how TV is a dying platform and how the money was in the live coverage. That contradicts Beartrap's mantra of MLF has 9753hrs of TV time over 37 channels 8 days a week. He was also pretty blunt about MLF expecting to lose money for the first 6-10 years of the BPT. He mentioned that all of the promised additional money for the anglers through the increased TV coverage has not really be seen by the anglers. They all were expecting increased sponsor moneyetc but it's been flat.

https://youtu.be/2gDDTwryP60

Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: Mark Perry] #14541581 11/20/22 04:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,598
F
Fishspanker Offline
TFF Guru
Offline
TFF Guru
F
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 13,598
Originally Posted by Mark Perry
Originally Posted by grout-scout
Beartrap says “fake news”, the BPT/MLF is the greatest thing to ever happen in the industry.



Beartrap may be disappointed. Gerald Spohrer was on a podcast last week speaking of all the MLF/BPat changes and ge was pretty blunt. He seems to be a straight shooter. He had a lot of good info on the how, why and such of the changes. Onething he pointed out after speaking with MLF management and Duckett is how TV is a dying platform and how the money was in the live coverage. That contradicts Beartrap's mantra of MLF has 9753hrs of TV time over 37 channels 8 days a week. He was also pretty blunt about MLF expecting to lose money for the first 6-10 years of the BPT.

https://youtu.be/2gDDTwryP60


Numbers of viewers watching and sponsorship dollars as a result is the most important metric. They aren’t running a charitable organization. The number or people interested in tournament fishing across the US is a relatively small number.

Last edited by Fishspanker; 11/20/22 04:46 PM.

The Sheep who only fears the Wolf is eaten by the Shepherd.
Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: Chris B] #14541707 11/20/22 07:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,033
S
SC-001 Offline
TFF Celebrity
Offline
TFF Celebrity
S
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,033
Originally Posted by Chris B
I have no problem with two spots for legends. Its not taking away a spot from anyone. I was surprised to see Fritts back. He said at the last weigh in he was done and retiring.

I know, he said his health was not good. WTF is he doing back on the Elite series, he's just taking up a spot. I really don't know how he was invited back, you can only use an exemption for every Legend point you have, a Classic win on AOY constitues a point, he had 2. With that many bad AOY finishes he has to have used up those to points by now.

Last edited by SC-001; 11/20/22 07:39 PM.
Re: 2023 BASS Elite roster [Re: SC-001] #14541715 11/20/22 07:50 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 16,322
Chris B Online Content
TFF Guru
Online Content
TFF Guru
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 16,322
Originally Posted by SC-001
Originally Posted by Chris B
I have no problem with two spots for legends. Its not taking away a spot from anyone. I was surprised to see Fritts back. He said at the last weigh in he was done and retiring.

I know, he said his health was not good. WTF is he doing back on the Elite series, he's just taking up a spot. I really don't know how he was invited back, you can only use an exemption for every Legend point you have, a Classic win on AOY constitues a point, he had 2. With that many bad AOY finishes he has to have used up those to points by now.

The only two others I saw that qualify are Woo Daves and Dion Hibdon. Probably no one else wanted it that was qualified.


[Linked Image]
I hate photobucket.
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 1998-2022 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3