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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: HDVS]
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08/08/22 03:32 PM
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SC-001
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There is a reality here. You can be mad at Jeff, I personally know him and he is a great guy, but MLF is going to make up the rules as they go along, just like their requalifying procedures to protect guys past their prime. Wheeler got caught and not one word , not one suspension etc. was dealt. I do know about the DC incident but he is Wheeler's roommate so it should surprise no one. You can say this happens at BASS but you cannot give me a recent example. You know why ? BASS would publicize it, and MLF does not. MLF had to publicize this because it got out. MLF is in the business or reality television and keeping sponsors happy. Toro, Lews, Strike King, NGK Sparkplugs etc would not be happy if he was kicked out for the rest of the season etc. Same thing if they did this to Wheeler years ago. This will happen on your favorite high school football team this season across our state. The star player that gets a 68 will be rounded up to passing to play Friday night. The non athlete will get a 68 with no round up. Trying to justify breaking rules bc someone else did is BS! A persons integrity and reputation should mean more to that person than that. We should hold each other in this sport higher bc alot of this is self governed like golf. The info rule is clear and he knowingly broke it and without a doubt it's not the first time much less the snagging incident. So great guy or not he should find a new career bc a cheater is a cheater and being the one that got caught isn't an excuse! It's a cop out. 
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Re: Jeff Sprague
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08/08/22 10:00 PM
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Hulapoppin
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His livescope was broke so he was just trying to even the odds.
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: Jake Shannon(Skeet4Life)]
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08/08/22 10:42 PM
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SoCal Tom
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Luke Dunkin dropped some good stuff on his podcast. The other MLF guys are pissed off the only reason MLF did anything was because Randy Flowers blew him up on facebook. MLF would of swept it under the rug if the texts did not get out as they had the texts since February. Watched most of this last night. Zach Birge did not pull any punches. Here's the link if you are interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbCV5H2P97A
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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08/08/22 11:41 PM
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ezbassin
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I agree with sprigsss..................................personally, I will not be supporting Sprague sponsors such as Lew, Strike King, etc any longer. I'm sure that won't matter to them- Are you guys kidding? I hope so. That seems like a pretty extreme reaction. I'm not throwing all my TVs in the trash because they are from China. Sprague is a bunny rabbit compared to China. +1
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: SoCal Tom]
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08/09/22 12:23 AM
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CCTX
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Luke Dunkin dropped some good stuff on his podcast. The other MLF guys are pissed off the only reason MLF did anything was because Randy Flowers blew him up on facebook. MLF would of swept it under the rug if the texts did not get out as they had the texts since February. Watched most of this last night. Zach Birge did not pull any punches. Here's the link if you are interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbCV5H2P97AIn addition, he sheds light on how few people know the regulations, including those that enforce them. Also touches on some of the behind the back underhandedness. Sounds like there are a lot of rules with some of them being questionable along with an infrastructure that can improve the culture of infraction reporting, communication, and resolution.
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: OkAce]
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08/09/22 04:47 AM
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Lone_Wolf
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Listened to the Luke Dunkin podcast 
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: OkAce]
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08/09/22 05:26 AM
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J.H.S.
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Sounds like shady business by MLF. Wouldn’t be shocked to see several of those guys leave and go back to BASS.
Live Daringly, Boldy, and Fearlessly....Embrace the Challenge So That You May Feel the Exhiliration of Victory.
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: OkAce]
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08/09/22 04:36 PM
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Marion Morrison
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This is a very emotional topic along with those kids and the laundry basket.
After following this topic:
MLF is to blame for not enforcing the rules until the issue apparently went public. Who knows what else has gone on that we don't know about or behind closed door discussions. JS knowingly cheated and that is wrong but again, see above. If we don't know what has really gone on behind closed doors, doesn't this fall on MLF?
If you want to punish JF, shouldn't we be punishing MLF for not handling correctly? If you want to go the sponsor boycott route, MLF is the real issue.
For example, I have disagreed with the NFL and the kneeling and woke nonsense so I quit watching. Haven't seen a game in years. My choice and I live with it and it is not my job to convince anyone to watch or not watch. What used to make America the greatest country in the world was people here could have different opinions, discuss them, and not get so emotional.
Regardless of what you think about JS, MLF handled the situation with the punishment they felt was right and regardless of how we feel personally, they alone should experience the consequences of that decision.
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: OkAce]
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08/09/22 04:51 PM
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lconn4
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When someone cheats, everyone loses... the cheater, his sponsors, his fans, the entire industry.
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: OkAce]
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08/09/22 07:28 PM
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Fishing on a string
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When you get caught you blame 79 competitors in a meeting and not apologize for anything.
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: Fishing on a string]
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08/09/22 07:46 PM
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Marion Morrison
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When you get caught you blame 79 competitors in a meeting and not apologize for anything. No. You blame MLF for not handling it to your expectations. Everyone agrees that JS cheated. Everyone is arguing over his punishment or lack thereof.... Address the punishment with the authority that is dishing out the punishment. No one said there was or wasn't a meeting. We don't know but we can only speculate there had to be some type of communication IF MLF knew about the issue but did not take action until it was public. Maybe the meeting was with JS and MLF management. Who knows? No one is blaming the remaining anglers for anything. The issue is did he get what was deserved. He cheated, he got caught, and he received punishment. Whether that punishment is adequate to everyone reading this thread is up to their own opinion.
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: OkAce]
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08/10/22 11:12 AM
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Neal G
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The penalty does not match the seriousness of the rule violation. Every serious tournament angler - past or present - knows this.
You all now have good data points on what kind of tournament angler Jeff is and on the integrity of the tournament organization.
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: lconn4]
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08/10/22 02:14 PM
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the skipper
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When someone cheats, everyone loses... the cheater, his sponsors, his fans, the entire industry. Only if the punishment dictates that. I dont know what he made in winnings but the loss of the punishment could be small compared to the reward of cheating. Seems it may open up MLF to a lawsuit as well if they dont handle each incident with the same actions.
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Re: Jeff Sprague
[Re: the skipper]
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08/10/22 05:58 PM
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Ricktofish
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I wouldn't expect any lawsuits. That would be like "biting the hand that feeds you"
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Re: Jeff Sprague
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08/11/22 06:32 AM
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Pk Lake
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Obviously this is not a good thing I do not support Jeff. On this post who has not got info on a lake for a tournament. Rules are rules and he should be punished. So next time YOU get info foe a tournament remember that! other wise you are a hypocrite.
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