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Trinity river parking lot and launch at Hebron #14381302 05/31/22 02:00 PM
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I drive by the parking lot and launch/ramp every now and then.
Looks like they've been completely finished with everything for about a year now, but it's always gated closed.
Any word on when they will open the access?

PS--a few miles downstream is the large and potentially deadly spillway just before you get to McInnish Park in Carrollton.


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Re: Trinity river parking lot and launch at Hebron [Re: CCTX] #14381508 05/31/22 04:50 PM
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It was open for about a year or so then it shut down and never re-opened. Never heard why. I know it flooded a few times last year. They may have learned it was a dangerous spot due to currents. Not to mention the people that would camp out there and fish while trashing it up. The trash and dumping of couches, etc is probably why they shut it down.

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Just bizarre. They clearly spent a good amount of change constructing a quality launch area. Must have been a few bad apples that ruined the spot as they knew that area was prone to flooding--the entire Hebron area flooded in 2015 a couple years prior to putting down the first concrete.


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I go by there at least 2X to eat my lunch in my truck on my break. I have never seen the gate closed even after hours. FYI from Hebron it looks closed but is not. So you might pull in and drive back.

I will say whomever designed it did a horrible job. The city of Lewisville spent a lot of $ on it and the launch dock is only usable when the water is low. Every time we get a hard rain and the river comes up even a bit the launch breaks and requires repairs It is all messed up right now and unusable. I launch there frequently (but rarely use the launch dock) and take out at Sandy Lake Cricket Practice fields before the spillway. I also like to paddle upstream when there is not too much current and toss a jig or worm into the logjams.

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Thanks. Heard from others that it is open also.


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Sounds like a typical Government Project: Over-Engineered and Under-Thought. IslandJim


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So I've learned some funny info. The company I work for a metal fabrication company,did the work. The company was sold after this and a year or so later I was hired. It was a city job. The guys who drew it up were from some artectual firm the city hired. The guys who did the metal fab were extremely under qualified and now no longer work for our company. I will ask the new owners about it and see if there is an opportunity to do it again. I'm sure it was just a money grab for city or county people.


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I just think they did not take into consideration the water level fluctuation which is tremendous. Heck if an engineer looked at this they would have said. "This won't work" I said it when I first saw where they were putting the walkways. It is not even listed on the city's website anymore.

Seems to me if they spent the $$$ to have it engineered correctly now they would not have to repair it 5 times a year for the rest of it's lift which I kinda feel won't be long.

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Originally Posted by jippedgenes
I just think they did not take into consideration the water level fluctuation which is tremendous. Heck if an engineer looked at this they would have said. "This won't work" I said it when I first saw where they were putting the walkways. It is not even listed on the city's website anymore.

Seems to me if they spent the $$$ to have it engineered correctly now they would not have to repair it 5 times a year for the rest of it's lift which I kinda feel won't be long.

Hahahaha! If engeneeres ever spent any time in the field instead of all their time in books they would know a lot of the things they design won't work. I battle them all the time because practal experience isn't what they know.


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Originally Posted by christian myrick
Originally Posted by jippedgenes
I just think they did not take into consideration the water level fluctuation which is tremendous. Heck if an engineer looked at this they would have said. "This won't work" I said it when I first saw where they were putting the walkways. It is not even listed on the city's website anymore.

Seems to me if they spent the $$$ to have it engineered correctly now they would not have to repair it 5 times a year for the rest of it's lift which I kinda feel won't be long.

Hahahaha! If engineers ever spent any time in the field instead of all their time in books they would know a lot of the things they design won't work. I battle them all the time because practal experience isn't what they know.


Yup. They would have been better off with a narrow and looonnnngggg ramp (and potentially a short launching pier). The launching pier would require some time and attention to keep it aligned with the fluctuating water level. A simple ramp would do just fine for kayaks, canoes and small jon boats. A simple ramp and gravel parking area would have saved them a boat load of cash.

While not a metal guy... I spent a couple of decades as a carpenter and feel the same way. Each and every architect (and engineer) should be required to strap on an apron for no less than 2 years. This will impact thier designes for the rest of their careers.


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I talked to an employee of the city who told me they have to disconnect the dock and walkways from the concrete so it does not break every time the water is up.

Agree with you Mike. Would have preferred a regular ramp with pea gravel or such. The mud there is 12-18" deep. I know because my pal tumped and lost his shoes. So much silt.

I wonder if they will dredge it out?

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Originally Posted by jippedgenes
I talked to an employee of the city who told me they have to disconnect the dock and walkways from the concrete so it does not break every time the water is up.

Agree with you Mike. Would have preferred a regular ramp with pea gravel or such. The mud there is 12-18" deep. I know because my pal tumped and lost his shoes. So much silt.

I wonder if they will dredge it out?


Agreed, except I don't think dredging is money well spent. It's a river... dredging is time consuming and is likely a never-ending battle. If they had a simple concrete ramp they could come in with a front-end loader and scrape it 3' to 4' into the water a couple of times per year. They could do this in 30 minutes (but the city folks would milk half a day).

As Christian pointed out... practical application vs best-case assumptions. Shame on the engineers who designed it. I had high hopes for this when they announced it... I have shown up twice and could not use it. frown

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well said Mike

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Any reports here? Thinking maybe float to McKinnish and toss little baits to all the Bass looking spots along the way?

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