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Re: Question for the Christian Men
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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06/17/22 02:37 PM
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spazm09
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What's the deal with transsubstantiation? From what I understand it's a very literal thing, not metaphorical body and blood. Why is it significant that it's a literal transformation? Catholics believe it changes into the body and blood. Luther believed it just is and is a miracle we can't understand. Most other denominations think it just represents. That's the reason Catholics and Lutherans (and perhaps others) practice closed Communion. I guess I'm asking more about the why. So it literally turns into the body and blood of Jesus, why is it important to then consume it? It would be a miracle with or without the consumption right? No, not literary, but yes. In, with and under is the term used. As to why... 26While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” 27Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you.28This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.29I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.” Just based on that how did the catholic church conclude that it needs to be a weekly ritual?
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
[Re: Bigbob_FTW]
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06/17/22 02:37 PM
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I’ve always had a curiosity and maybe one of the Catholics on here can enlighten me. Why is Jesus on the cross in Catholic Churches and in Protestant Churches its just the cross? For the Catholics is to show that Christ died for us, for Protestants its a symbol of the risen Lord. Our church uses both. Depends on which individual Catholic church you go in. In a lot of Catholic churches built in the past 30 or so years there is just a plain cross.
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 02:44 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Spaz they have it at ever mass. what is mass?Catholic, Lutheran, Episcopal and Orthodox churches are liturgical congestions and follow this style of worship.
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 05:40 PM
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Regarding a few points by other forum members on previous pages.
Many non-church goers have a notion that Christians/church-goers go to church, become parts of an "organized religion," simple to "make themselves feel better about themselves." That is not true at all. People who attend an organized "church/spiritual/Christian/whatever" gathering, go to worship in their faith, and to have "community" with like-minded people.
It's like a bunch of fishing dudes going daily to a fishing forum.
Also and again, maybe some Catholics do this, but many do not, and I do NOT worship Mother Mary or the Pope. I honor them and respect them, but for this current pope, I do not. I think he's a leftist.
...+++ We’ll said with the exception we go “to worship our faith”. It’s definitely to worship God- which we can do anywhere, but we devote that day to him.
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 05:45 PM
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UGLYSHCTICK
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I wish this would get bunkered..
Just want to make folks smile, and spit coffee on their keyboard.
If you put beans in your chili, you don't know beans about chili.
God doesn't create temporary people, you will spend eternity somewhere. Choose wisely.
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 05:50 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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Regarding a few points by other forum members on previous pages.
Many non-church goers have a notion that Christians/church-goers go to church, become parts of an "organized religion," simple to "make themselves feel better about themselves." That is not true at all. People who attend an organized "church/spiritual/Christian/whatever" gathering, go to worship in their faith, and to have "community" with like-minded people.
It's like a bunch of fishing dudes going daily to a fishing forum.
Also and again, maybe some Catholics do this, but many do not, and I do NOT worship Mother Mary or the Pope. I honor them and respect them, but for this current pope, I do not. I think he's a leftist.
...+++ We’ll said with the exception we go “to worship our faith”. It’s definitely to worship God- which we can do anywhere, but we devote that day to him. Yes. Not out of duty, or getting something out of it, but of thanksgiving and praise.
FJB
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
[Re: UGLYSHCTICK]
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06/17/22 05:51 PM
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spazm09
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I wish this would get bunkered.. Because you're forced to read every thread in the OT against your will?
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 06:04 PM
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UGLYSHCTICK
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I wish this would get bunkered.. Because you're forced to read every thread in the OT against your will? cause it's the rule. and rules are rules for a reason.
Just want to make folks smile, and spit coffee on their keyboard.
If you put beans in your chili, you don't know beans about chili.
God doesn't create temporary people, you will spend eternity somewhere. Choose wisely.
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 06:12 PM
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spazm09
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I wish this would get bunkered.. Because you're forced to read every thread in the OT against your will? cause it's the rule. and rules are rules for a reason.
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 06:15 PM
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RATZ
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I wish this would get bunkered.. Because you're forced to read every thread in the OT against your will? cause it's the rule. and rules are rules for a reason. This thread is fine where it is.
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 06:22 PM
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Do you know why you have to take 2 baptists fishing? If you only take one, he'll drink up all your beer! 3 things baptists don’t believe in the Pope, baptisms by sprinkling, and another baptist in a liquor store you forgot the dancing, the devil is making those hips gyrate
#MFGA
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 06:23 PM
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UGLYSHCTICK
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I wish this would get bunkered.. Because you're forced to read every thread in the OT against your will? cause it's the rule. and rules are rules for a reason. This thread is fine where it is.
Just want to make folks smile, and spit coffee on their keyboard.
If you put beans in your chili, you don't know beans about chili.
God doesn't create temporary people, you will spend eternity somewhere. Choose wisely.
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 06:27 PM
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I haven't read half of it, but the half I did has been respectful. I'm proud of the OT! Growth moment.
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 06:29 PM
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spazm09
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Is there an actual rule that religious threads CAN'T be posted in the OT, or is there just a subforum for religious threads... Is it "against the rules" to post about bass fishing in the crappie section?
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Re: Question for the Christian Men
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06/17/22 06:38 PM
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Bigbob_FTW
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I haven't read half of it, but the half I did has been respectful. I'm proud of the OT! Growth moment. Its been very respectful save for one or two.
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