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 Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: Jpurdue]
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05/27/22 08:17 PM
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bockscar
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Interesting chart... Things exploded when the assault weapon ban expired, but 2005 was also the start of social media... ![[Linked Image]](https://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/userpics/2022/05/full-90510-140716-ms_graph.png) im not saying its wrong or setting my position on either side of the argument....but a lot of these mass shooting stats I seen tend to be self serving. Pro gun, theyll find a way to spin it....anti-gun, theyll find a way to spin it. I think 3 people getting shot in one instance is considered a mass shooting. So a lot of scenarios we connect with "mass shooting" arent necessarily what a mass shooting is when it pops in our head.
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: chickenman]
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05/27/22 08:32 PM
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Here are my questions if you have the answers. I can attempt to find the answers but thought you might already know. I feel like I've already been down this road after the Stoneman Douglas shooting but failed to retain the information.
-Is that data based on injuries or deaths? Deaths.
-When did mass shopping criteria/definition change and how did it change? They define it as multiple deaths, indiscriminate (shooter didn't know the people they were killing), and in a public place.
-How many were handgun related? Probably a bunch, but remember we aren't counting Chicago crime, because most of those are not indescriminant.
-Are gang related shooting in this data? No, see above.
-How many deaths by rifle are there compared to other weapons? Data doesn't say.
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: Jpurdue]
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05/27/22 08:42 PM
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bockscar
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Here are my questions if you have the answers. I can attempt to find the answers but thought you might already know. I feel like I've already been down this road after the Stoneman Douglas shooting but failed to retain the information.
-Is that data based on injuries or deaths? Deaths.
-When did mass shopping criteria/definition change and how did it change? They define it as multiple deaths, indiscriminate (shooter didn't know the people they were killing), and in a public place.
-How many were handgun related? Probably a bunch, but remember we aren't counting Chicago crime, because most of those are not indescriminant.
-Are gang related shooting in this data? No, see above.
-How many deaths by rifle are there compared to other weapons? Data doesn't say.
post the link
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: T Bird]
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05/27/22 09:54 PM
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
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05/27/22 10:01 PM
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I wasnt there, I have never been shot at and never put in position to shoot somebody, I dont know how I would respond but I hope I would respond in a way I could look at myself in the mirror the next morning. Thanks to the BP officer who brought it to an end. Hopefully the ranks of LEO have alot more like him. Very well said.
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: WAWI]
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05/27/22 11:21 PM
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I wasnt there, I have never been shot at and never put in position to shoot somebody, I dont know how I would respond but I hope I would respond in a way I could look at myself in the mirror the next morning. Thanks to the BP officer who brought it to an end. Hopefully the ranks of LEO have alot more like him. I was 15 the first time I was shot at . The first bullet hit a parked car less than 2 feet from my head . At first I didn't recognize the sounds , the second bullet hit directly in front of my foot and made that undeniable ricochet sound . There was 6 or 7 of us in the area . We were being shot at by a kid that one of my " friends " like to bully because the kid was a deaf mute . You wanna talk about adrenaline , holy cow , I ran so fast into the closest house -- my hear was beating outa my chest . The police came quickly and arrested the kid on scene and we never saw him again . The courage it must take to " go in " to a gun fight like Uvalde ---must be insane . 100% guarantee I couldn't do it unless my child or grandchild was in that school . I hope the man that shot and killed this POS is at the next Trump rally --- held up as the hero he is .
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: T Bird]
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05/27/22 11:36 PM
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"Courage" is saddling up and going in anyway . . . .
When you are scared to death.
Here we are on Memorial Day Weekend and we are having trouble (?) honoring true heroes for doing what American Patriots do every day . . . . .
God Bless America . . . Let's Remember the Founding Fathers and their principles we have inherited . . . .
Stand Up America ! ! !
 NEVER FORGET 9/11/2001
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: T Bird]
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05/28/22 05:04 AM
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This is a charlie fox of epic proportion.....from the door being propped open to the failure to charge hell with a bucket of water......I'm just sick
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: T Bird]
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05/28/22 01:09 PM
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butch sanders
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The Uvalde pd blew this
Daniel Defense needs to be shut down
There is nothing wrong with propping a door open
Last edited by butch sanders; 05/28/22 01:10 PM.
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: T Bird]
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05/28/22 01:21 PM
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Considering the MSM NEVER gets a story correct first time around and always has a slant to the left, save your accusations until the facts comes out. Those cops will live with the fact those children are dead and they couldn’t or didn’t save them. Give the cops some slack until facts are available. Hug your kiddos everyday.
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: butch sanders]
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05/28/22 01:26 PM
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The Uvalde pd blew this
Daniel Defense needs to be shut down
There is nothing wrong with propping a door open you may have just out done yourself. I think Ford should be shuttered too for their rogue SUV's that mow people down. (sarcasm) Good Lord Man
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: butch sanders]
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05/28/22 01:29 PM
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Daniel Defense needs to be shut down
Why? What did they do to cause this?
“There’s no such thing as too much horsepower, just not enough traction”…..Carroll Shelby
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: DanDaBald]
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05/28/22 01:29 PM
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they use to call them heroes and gave them metals for risking their life to save another *medals* your right
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: Tiltman]
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05/28/22 01:48 PM
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The Uvalde pd blew this
Daniel Defense needs to be shut down
There is nothing wrong with propping a door open you may have just out done yourself. I think Ford should be shuttered too for their rogue SUV's that mow people down. (sarcasm) Good Lord Man His first comment I’d probably agree with, second one is beyond dumb but typical and the third is right to a certain extent but just not at school where they are suppose to be locked at all times.
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Re: Uvalde Police Response
[Re: T Bird]
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05/28/22 01:57 PM
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butch sanders
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D D rifles are strictly for killing humans
There is no reason for these rifles to exist
They have a track record of mass shootings
DONE
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