So who [censored] up here?

Honestly, who was the one that owns this? His [censored] should have been on a list. The FBLie didn't do that. They cleared him. So who is on the hook, policy or a deficiency at determining mental heath? They missed it by a mile. was it policy though?

Usually it's just the local system not thinking about taking the steps. The one above was the Buffalo shooter. The Church shooting in Texas a few years back was the Air Force not sending in the data. Has happened in many cases.

I will not disagree with that fact. Who is responsible for that. The FBI.... I am not a conspiracy nut but something is wrong here. It is not on us who follow policy and get verified. This a mental health issue and that is the problem.

Has anyone noticed that laws don’t work.
Especially, if they will never be enforced.

Everyone seems to gloss over the fact that murder is illegal !

Wait... it is?!

No one is glossing over it, but it stops no one from doing it.

Guns are here to stay,....let's figure a way to protect the schools and children.

Ask the people in Ukraine about private gun ownership. The reason Japan never invaded the U.S. during WW2, "behind every tree is someone with a gun".

You don't have to have a database for universal background checks.

Of course you do, otherwise there is no point to it.

See post #3 in this thread

If we don't come up with some solutions that don't involve not banning guns, that will be the only thing left. And people are only gonna sit here and watch kids get murdered for so long before they demand something is done.

What's wrong with having agents trying to buy guns illegally and putting away folks who are trying to sell the people who may not be able to buy?

I've had the part-time job of selling guns in sporting goods stores at various times in my life. It is interesting to look back at the different periods and the different ways we had to do things. I remember when we could sell the person a gun, but not ammo at the same time. I remember the 5 day waiting period time for taking a purchased gun home. One thing that remained consistent was the paperwork that the store had to keep for the Government. Pre and Post background check we would have ATF or FBI come in and look through the paperwork when a gun was used in a crime. That is the only place that the gun is tied to the purchaser. What a Universal background check, done at a FFL store/site would do is complete the paper trail. The background check itself only clears the transaction, it doesn't record what gun you have bought or sold. In the past, when I have done a private sale of one of my guns, I kept a signed (by me and the guy buying the gun) receipt showing the gun and serial number that I sold. Just in case the gun was ever used in a crime. The Feds can only track the gun by serial number by getting the store that the firearm was sold to, and then physically going to the store and going through file cabinets of paperwork to see who that gun was sold to.They tried several years back to get that data into a federal data base, but that was blocked by the courts.

Of course you do, otherwise there is no point to it.[/quote]
See post #3 in this thread

If we don't come up with some solutions that don't involve not banning guns, that will be the only thing left. And people are only gonna sit here and watch kids get murdered for so long before they demand something is done.

What's wrong with having agents trying to buy guns illegally and putting away folks who are trying to sell the people who may not be able to buy?[/quote]

I don't know that it's wrong for them to try and trap people, because you selling a gun, you may not know that person and if they are lying to you. You also don't have the way to background check so to be trapped seams wrong to me.

I would suggest if you know you can't buy a gun and you try that should be a felony, but even if it would to become law what would anyone do about it. I say nothing so no matter what you put in place the only ones hurt are honest law abiding people criminals will always find away.