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Re: RC bait boat
[Re: Jerry713]
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05/27/22 03:29 AM
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I spoke to a senior game warden about using drones for fishing. I was told they can be used to drop bait but cannot be used to locate fish then go catch those fish. The latter method is considered illegal means and methods (even though there is not yet clear language in the law books regarding this). That said I wonder if using a remote control boat with fish finding capabilities would fall in the same illegal means and methods category? Definitely a gray area but I can see a game warden wanting to get out in front of some of this newer methods that can be considered unfair chase. What’s the difference in the RC boat having sonar and a fishing boat having it? Just because you mark fish or structure doesn’t mean they’ll bite. Strange law if it’s true.
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Re: RC bait boat
[Re: cg203]
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05/27/22 12:58 PM
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Jerry713
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I spoke to a senior game warden about using drones for fishing. I was told they can be used to drop bait but cannot be used to locate fish then go catch those fish. The latter method is considered illegal means and methods (even though there is not yet clear language in the law books regarding this). That said I wonder if using a remote control boat with fish finding capabilities would fall in the same illegal means and methods category? Definitely a gray area but I can see a game warden wanting to get out in front of some of this newer methods that can be considered unfair chase. What’s the difference in the RC boat having sonar and a fishing boat having it? Just because you mark fish or structure doesn’t mean they’ll bite. Strange law if it’s true. The difference- there's not a licensed fisherman on the RC boat....To be clear I didn't say this is a law just posing the question, what if.
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Re: RC bait boat
[Re: Jerry713]
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05/30/22 02:33 AM
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I spoke to a senior game warden about using drones for fishing. I was told they can be used to drop bait but cannot be used to locate fish then go catch those fish. The latter method is considered illegal means and methods (even though there is not yet clear language in the law books regarding this). That said I wonder if using a remote control boat with fish finding capabilities would fall in the same illegal means and methods category? Definitely a gray area but I can see a game warden wanting to get out in front of some of this newer methods that can be considered unfair chase. What’s the difference in the RC boat having sonar and a fishing boat having it? Just because you mark fish or structure doesn’t mean they’ll bite. Strange law if it’s true. The difference- there's not a licensed fisherman on the RC boat....To be clear I didn't say this is a law just posing the question, what if. But there’s a licensed fisherman operating it from shore…
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Re: RC bait boat
[Re: cg203]
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05/30/22 12:29 PM
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Jerry713
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I spoke to a senior game warden about using drones for fishing. I was told they can be used to drop bait but cannot be used to locate fish then go catch those fish. The latter method is considered illegal means and methods (even though there is not yet clear language in the law books regarding this). That said I wonder if using a remote control boat with fish finding capabilities would fall in the same illegal means and methods category? Definitely a gray area but I can see a game warden wanting to get out in front of some of this newer methods that can be considered unfair chase. What’s the difference in the RC boat having sonar and a fishing boat having it? Just because you mark fish or structure doesn’t mean they’ll bite. Strange law if it’s true. The difference- there's not a licensed fisherman on the RC boat....To be clear I didn't say this is a law just posing the question, what if. But there’s a licensed fisherman operating it from shore… Buddy your trying to argue something that isn't. My answer to your question was with tongue firmly olante in cheek. To me knowing just a little about how game wardens view certain aspects of the law it could be considered illegal means and methods. Just my thoughts...
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Re: RC bait boat
[Re: J.P. Greeson]
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05/30/22 12:56 PM
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I spoke to a senior game warden about using drones for fishing. I was told they can be used to drop bait but cannot be used to locate fish then go catch those fish. The latter method is considered illegal means and methods (even though there is not yet clear language in the law books regarding this). That said I wonder if using a remote control boat with fish finding capabilities would fall in the same illegal means and methods category? Definitely a gray area but I can see a game warden wanting to get out in front of some of this newer methods that can be considered unfair chase. If you are fishing the surf, I'm wondering what the benefit of a fish finder would be. Most fish you catch are cruising a depth change like a sandbar. The RC boat is primarily for running bait out. You are not really using it to locate fish. A fish finder seems like an unnecessary gadget that would bump up the price, but not really offer much in the way of actual use. This thread got me curious. The answer comes down to the definitions of "taking" or "attempting to take" fish. Any device which is used to assist in locating fish could be considered as an attempt to take fish. While I would happily use a remote device to get my baits way out from the beach, having a sonar unit on it would not be worth a hair-splitting argument with a game warden. Or a judge.
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Re: RC bait boat
[Re: cg203]
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05/30/22 01:09 PM
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No dog in the fight, but some day the drone could end up in the drink and not be retrievable. The boat is already there and could be...
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