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Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: Houston Basscat] #14359159 05/03/22 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Houston Basscat
It looked to me like Castledine had just turned that corner and the Skeeter was idling towards the same bed fish before he knew Todd's boat was heading that way. The High School team may have not known Castledine was coming before he started his boat and drove to the bedding fish. Castledine initiated the altercation by dropping his rod and staring at the high school kids like my wife does when I'm in her way. To me, it looked like the Boat Captain ignored Castledine the same way I ignore my wife when she performs that particular form of tantrum.
In a similar passive aggressive way Castledine started the confrontation by saying something like "You'll figure it out one day." Basically, calling the man a dumbarse in front of his kids. This is how cry babies do it all the time. They antagonize someone and then claim the higher ground by walking away.
This looks to me like two guys that found the same bed fish and one guy had a camera rolling so he gets to explain the situation from his point of view only. It doesn't help that some of the communication is muted. I feel like there may have been other things said.
In my opinion, it's also very poor taste to start the video with a slow-mo shot of his trophy from this event. It feels like an attempt to gain credibility before laying out his version of how this exchange went. Kind of a "look what I won despite being surrounded by these idiots" sort of mentality.
There are definitely two sides to every story and this one is no different. If the ladder is a violation it should be addressed without prejudice.

I feel like Castledine came out looking and sounding pretty bad despite his best editing attempts. This is why he should have just ducked his head and carried on without confrontation. If he wants to call himself a Professional Fisherman, he should act like it.



Sounds to me like you have the same character as the boat captain that cut Todd off. Pathetic. Very poor example of the boat captain for the kids in the boat. Some people these days just have NO integrity or respect for others.

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Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: Minner Bucket] #14359161 05/03/22 11:50 PM
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And I’m not a fan of the look at me attention grabbing YouTube videos.

Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: Minner Bucket] #14359227 05/04/22 01:14 AM
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I've had High School anglers cut me off, I've had pro anglers cut me off, and I've had local tournament anglers cut me off, bottom line we are fishing public waters for the most part and there are some that have no etiquette, I don't stare at them or add fuel to the fire, I just ignore them and keep fishing or just move.

Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: Minner Bucket] #14359281 05/04/22 02:10 AM
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What is eventually going to happen is, the governing lake authority will regulate how may tournaments can be held on a PUBLIC lake for profit. Its coming.

Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: buda13] #14359295 05/04/22 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by buda13
Give the THSBA a break. Anyone remember ole Rooster and Crankin Craig in Basschamps last year? That showed me things like this go on in more tournaments than any of us want to imagine. It’s not the organizations fault that bad apples are participating in their events. One of the biggest tournament cheaters in the area that could never seem to get caught by anyone was busted by the high school trail. They’ve come a long way and do plenty of good…. but that’s no fun to talk about I guess.

That dumb@ss got busted by ABA when it was the RAM open series, I was there.

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Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: wh2004] #14359298 05/04/22 02:34 AM
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And I’m not a fan of the look at me attention grabbing YouTube videos.

I'm not a fan of the douche THSBA captains cursing a fellow angler out and setting a bad example in front of the youths.

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Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: RedEar12] #14359302 05/04/22 02:35 AM
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What is eventually going to happen is, the governing lake authority will regulate how may tournaments can be held on a PUBLIC lake for profit. Its coming.

I agree and surprised it hasn't already happened

Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: SC-001] #14359325 05/04/22 02:54 AM
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And I’m not a fan of the look at me attention grabbing YouTube videos.

I'm not a fan of the douche THSBA captains cursing a fellow angler out and setting a bad example in front of the youths.



Yeah that comment was uncalled for also. Lots of wrong in this incident.

Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: wh2004] #14359329 05/04/22 02:56 AM
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I think the fact that he was cheating by using his little ladder takes any possible thought of his integrity out of the discussion. Even the kids in the boat knew the guy was being a douche....



How in the world does anyone know what the kids thought? Because Todd said so? They could have been watching him thinking wtf is this guy doing coming up on us staring us down like this.


In truth the platform has absolutely nothing to do with the video. The OP didn’t post it to show him on the ladder he posted it to show him supposedly cutting him off.


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Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: Minner Bucket] #14359358 05/04/22 03:36 AM
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No dog in this fight but I can tell you there are a ton of boat captains in HS fishing that do not know the rules.

I have seen teams in THSBA weigh fish with the culling clips and floats still on the fish. Guy weighing the bags never looked at the fish and the girl giving the bags to the weigher never looked either. They had to take the culling rings off to put the fish in the release tank.

Captains have gone to the restroom while their team fished.

I’ve seen captains sleeping…..zonked out….with no clue what the team was doing.

Kids on the back deck while under way with the big motor.

A team scooped a floating 5lbr in their net….boxed it….took it to weigh in. Asked if it was legal….got told no but they were still allowed to weigh their other fish and not DQd.

I could go on….I don’t think in any of the incidents above that a team or captain were trying to cheat but rather just ignorant of the rules. The guy in the vid may have had no clue that a step ladder was not allowed. I could not question his ethics just because of the ladder.

Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: Minner Bucket] #14359361 05/04/22 03:52 AM
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I’m with Todd on this one… the GoPro angles are not what they seem. I’m sure the boat captain saw him coming down the bank…. The captain knew there was a bed fish there “he had his ladder ready” and was willing to do anything before Todd got there.

I’ve been in the boat captain shoes… I’ve seen brush piles and points I knew had fish on them but was beat to the punch. However, you have to control your willingness to catch the fish or get to that spot. Some men can do it, and some men cannot. Self control and got the better of the boat captain. He was willing to cut a boat off and catch the fish vs let the other boat in line “Todd” have his shot.

It sucks but self control goes along way in tournament bass fishing. That’s why Todd said you’ll get it one day. I agree with Todd. It will happen to the guy or the boys fishing with him. And then they will remember that they did that to another boater.

I run a. GoPro 24/7… I can assure you that boat was a lot closer than what it looked like.

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Re: To the guy in the Skeeter on Texoma [Re: Minner Bucket] #14359373 05/04/22 04:28 AM
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These type of threads are so stupid. People want to say that you aren’t using proper fishing etiquette but there really, you’re version of proper etiquette is something that you made up in your head and expect others to know and follow even though their version is obviously different. Sure I have my own version of proper etiquette and get pissed when others don’t follow it, just like everyone else but I am not going to get into a stare down and try to embarrass someone in front of their kids. Just move on and fish. This is why I hate tournaments. I just fish for fun

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Sounds to me like there were too many tournament boats along with all the regular traffic for the lake. If the lake was large enough then there wouldn't be confrontations as everyone would have a spot to fish unimpeded. It doesn't matter how large the body of water is if the fish are location specific. I'm all for the tournament guys but there needs to be a limit to the number of them on the same days. If these things continue there will be regulation coming down the pike and the tournament guys will have no one to blame but themselves. You can clean it up yourselves or someone will do it for you.

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1) Todd, these guys went to the bank for a specific fish. Obviously they knew it was there before you or you would have went directly to it. I would have simply trolled around them and moved on. No discussion necessary.
2) Nobody knows who the guy or the kids are or if they were even entered in a tournament that day. It could have simply been a guy fishing with his kids. Put down the rope and don’t hang anyone until someone knows the facts.
3) Go out and enjoy your day on the water. Life is too short to worry about this kind of stuff.


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