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Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? #14310441 03/10/22 02:57 AM
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The jackhammer has a snap type line tie whereas the standard chatterbait elite has some sort of twisted double eye tie. Question....has anyone changed out the twisted double eye tie for a snap? If so, which size do you use? It certainly feels like the jackhammer is easier to vibrate at lower crank speeds...but maybe I'm just imagining that trying to feel better about throwing a $15 bait vs the $4 bait? Thoughts?

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Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14310453 03/10/22 03:10 AM
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The Jackhammer starts chattering faster and works at any speed better than the less expensive Chatterbaits. Thats why it is $15.

A word of caution. The snap that comes on a Jackhammer is a 40# Decoy snap. It will fail after 20-30 small fish or one large fish. Ask me how I know.

I swap mine before I ever throw them with the Owner 70# snap.

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Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14310665 03/10/22 01:38 PM
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Is there a video out there that demonstrates it? I’ve had someone say oh it’s easy….not to me but I could be missing something.


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Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14310723 03/10/22 02:29 PM
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I’ve never swapped them and never had an issue with any of the 100 jackhammers we own. Caught multiple 6lb+ fish on the Walmart version and the jackhammer with zero issues either way

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Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: Ken A.] #14310745 03/10/22 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken A.
The Jackhammer starts chattering faster and works at any speed better than the less expensive Chatterbaits. Thats why it is $15.

A word of caution. The snap that comes on a Jackhammer is a 40# Decoy snap. It will fail after 20-30 small fish or one large fish. Ask me how I know.


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Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14310788 03/10/22 03:14 PM
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I've never had a problem with the jackhammer line ties (I like the snaps) was more wondering if anyone changed out the cheaper version chatterbait with snaps like a jackhammer....

Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14310947 03/10/22 05:08 PM
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The pic Ken A posted is dead on...just like you better change the split rings on a whopper plopper. It's a source of irritation when the premium bait in a category needs upgrades to function at a reliable level.

Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14312035 03/11/22 03:46 PM
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I've also never had an issue with the original snaps on Jackhammers BUT I think a big difference is that I use fluorocarbon instead of braid. You can see in the picture it was tied with braid and I imagine the zero stretch has something to do with the breakage. Not starting a debate on fluoro vs braid and I can only imagine how much more vibration would transmit with braid but I get more hooked and landed fish on fluoro. That and a good Dobyn's rob that was built specifically for the chatterbait.

Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14312953 03/12/22 04:06 AM
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It is true the day my first snap opened up I was using 65 braid on Camelot Bell on a 9-10# fish when she jumped and shook her head. I reeled up and threw the bait again and noticed it was not vibrating. I reeled it up and thats what I found. I thought maybe it was just turned weird in the fish's mouth when she jumped and thats why it straightened out.

However, the next time I was using 15# Invisx on a PWF private lake full of 1-3# fish. After 20-30 small fish the snap opened up on a brand new bait as a fish jumped and shook his head.

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Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14313279 03/12/22 03:13 PM
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I have been switching out the clip since Zman changed styles. I found the new clips wire extending from the last bend getting snagged in the blade holes. I called Zman and they were surprised by the issue, they gave me some recommendations for clips. I’ve been taking the clips off of heavier chatterbaits that I bought and never throw to the 1/4 and 3/8 sizes that I do throw. I’m about out of the heavier baits and keep meaning to take a clip out to BPS to check sizes. I don’t remember who they recommended now, but there are several manufacturers that make clips like Zman’s original clip.

Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14313355 03/12/22 04:30 PM
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I inspect all my snaps very carefully.
Odds are when one comes unclipped- there's a good chance it was sprung a little when attaching. After losing a few good fish only to find an open and bent snap I'll sit down with some pliers and carefully bend the cross locks so they won't come open.

Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: rkd] #14314155 03/13/22 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rkd
I've also never had an issue with the original snaps on Jackhammers BUT I think a big difference is that I use fluorocarbon instead of braid. You can see in the picture it was tied with braid and I imagine the zero stretch has something to do with the breakage. Not starting a debate on fluoro vs braid and I can only imagine how much more vibration would transmit with braid but I get more hooked and landed fish on fluoro.



That and a good Dobyn's rob that was built specifically for the chatterbait.



Which model is that?

Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14314227 03/13/22 04:00 PM
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Champion XP 735cb glass. Has made a significant improvement in chatterbait fish landed.

Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14314500 03/13/22 10:29 PM
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I use this rod. Its made for bladed jigs

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Re: Changing Chatterbait Line Ties? [Re: jvc58dke] #14314529 03/13/22 11:02 PM
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OK....after doing some digging on the internet the jackhammer snap appears to be a decoy egg snap #2.

Link to Decoy Egg Snap #2

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