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 Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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02/28/22 01:55 AM
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A few years ago it turned on and I caught a lot of 6-8# fish. Tried the next year and was skunked.
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: Txhoghunter]
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02/28/22 02:25 AM
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I am speaking of Big creek. There was a white bass comment. That was about Chapman. Lol. Big Creek was quite a lake in the late 90s and early 2000s.
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: TajChauvin]
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02/28/22 04:22 AM
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Always pass this place on the drive to OK and wondered if it was public I always wondered the same. I always pass by heading north of Paris.
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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02/28/22 02:07 PM
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Back in the day (late 90's) I caught one just under 9 to take big bass and anchor a club tournament winning stringer. Full of hydrilla and lots of lily pads. Caught the fish on a frog (in fact I think most of mine came on a frog and a few on a Sloggo). Went back there last winter. What a disappointment. All the vegetation was gone, lake real muddy and the ramps were in bad shape.
I won't be going back soon.
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
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02/28/22 10:43 PM
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ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
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Back in the day (late 90's) I caught one just under 9 to take big bass and anchor a club tournament winning stringer. Full of hydrilla and lots of lily pads. Caught the fish on a frog (in fact I think most of mine came on a frog and a few on a Sloggo). Went back there last winter. What a disappointment. All the vegetation was gone, lake real muddy and the ramps were in bad shape.
I won't be going back soon. Almost everybody that I know around this part of the state that has owned a bass boat in the past 25 years or so has caught a DD or really large single digit fish out of it, but it has probably been 10 years or so since it produced any large fish. I never fished it until I moved to Cooper. I was too busy trying to wring one out of Fork when Big Creek it was in its prime. I just wonder what a person would have to do to get some Florida strain fingerlings to release in it and do it legally? I think it could use a healthy dose of forage fish too.
2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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03/01/22 03:02 AM
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All this chat/talk about Big Creek Lake and it’s glory days got my wheels turning. I’m going to talk to someone next week that may be able to get this lake turned around and back to its glory days. Stay tuned…….
2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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03/01/22 03:38 AM
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If you don’t get some vegetation to grow, It will remain a poor fishery. Turbidity is a fish killer. If you read the TP&W lake creel survey and lake study spells it all out? A Lake needs that all the vegetation to filter the water. And support the bait fish. Bass need sunlight for the spawn and most everything else. I wish you luck though. Some one needs to figure out how to grow all forms if vegetation in lakes devoid of it. Heck even the Great Lake Fork needs it. We certainly figured out too many ways to kill it. (Grass Carp and pesticides). Big Creek is small and sits on a black clay bottom with lots of silt.
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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03/01/22 03:43 AM
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Oh last thing I personally think the drought is what killed the grass and pads more than the rumor of over spraying. Just my opinion. Lots of others feel differently . It certainly was a hog pond for many years.
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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03/01/22 06:00 PM
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It’s not a rumor that it was sprayed, it’s a fact. Very sad to see it now compared to what it was.
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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03/01/22 06:22 PM
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In the long run, drought will usually increase submerged vegetation.
No rain=improved water clarity.
Expanding shoreline=more aquatic vegetation growth.
Flooding and the turbid water that it brings usually reduces submerged vegetation—especially if the flooding was from a river or creek containing grass carp.
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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03/01/22 11:14 PM
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It has a pretty good growth of emergent weeds along the shore, the best I can tell it's smart weed. I think the biggest issue right now is the farming that is being done up stream, causing the lake to stay extremely muddy when we have long periods of rain. There needs to be some aquatic vegetation that would help filter that out. If we can get the right people involved, I think we can get the correct vegetation added to reduce the turbidity of the water. That would also help the water processing plant making it much easier to clean up the water they produce for the county.
To get this thing back rolling again we are going to have to start at the beginning of the food chain and do things that will promote microbial growth and go from there. If we don't get that part of it first, the rest is just a waste of time.
2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)]
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03/02/22 03:05 AM
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I should be clear. it was sprayed that is a fact. I just think the drought hurt it just as much as the spraying
No rain and no wind sediment will settle and that does help clear it up. But if a lake has grass it all happens so much faster and supports bait fish and plankton. A muddy lake with no grass is is muddy when it’s windy, and of course chocolate milk with the rain does come
A naturally turbid lake, which Big Creek is , Sitting on black clay is not going to clear up much with out vegetation. Big Creek was ringed, with thousand of lily pads. Those died off because the were sitting on dry ground due to drought and those have not come back at all. The hydrilla may have died off cuz of the spraying. Not sure. Something did. Anyway I hate it. . I would love to help out if there was a solid plan.
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Re: Big Creek at Cooper, Texas
[Re: Walker61]
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03/03/22 12:43 AM
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ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
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I should be clear. it was sprayed that is a fact. I just think the drought hurt it just as much as the spraying
No rain and no wind sediment will settle and that does help clear it up. But if a lake has grass it all happens so much faster and supports bait fish and plankton. A muddy lake with no grass is is muddy when it’s windy, and of course chocolate milk with the rain does come
A naturally turbid lake, which Big Creek is , Sitting on black clay is not going to clear up much with out vegetation. Big Creek was ringed, with thousand of lily pads. Those died off because the were sitting on dry ground due to drought and those have not come back at all. The hydrilla may have died off cuz of the spraying. Not sure. Something did. Anyway I hate it. . I would love to help out if there was a solid plan. I'll probably have some info next week.
2012 ZX200 Skeeter 2012 Yamaha 200 SHO Isaiah 40:31 "but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles, they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Proud student of the Pro Staffer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwF72B2F2w&t=14s
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