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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: MTH82]
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02/24/22 11:21 PM
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AdvTX
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Y’all are funny and it’s ok to disagree.
You can’t compare any of that to scoping. If you took it away from JJ would he ever catch another one? Would he have ever caught one at all?…..exactly
All I was trying to say is records are to special to let them get replaced this way.
And nothing against JJ I love seeing people have fun anyway they want.
The day after catching a lot of fish is still a good day.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: MTH82]
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02/24/22 11:42 PM
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Well let's see, I fished same trees same depth same set up same time and got 0 bites. Guy with livescope same trees same area caught 16 crappie all over 14.5 inches. I went and purchased livescope the next day.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: MTH82]
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02/24/22 11:47 PM
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Hulapoppin
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I have livescope, spot lock, power poles and graphs on every corner of the boat but the biggest game changer for me was when my ol lady started fishing with me. Now when all that other stuff doesn’t put fish in the boat I can pull over in a secluded area and really enjoy a day on the water.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: bsbeantx]
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02/24/22 11:56 PM
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ezbassin
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Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport? What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: AdvTX]
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02/25/22 12:07 AM
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JoeDouble
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Public water with the same equipment you can go buy??
JRJ
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: ezbassin]
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02/25/22 12:13 AM
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tmd11111
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[quote=bsbeantx]Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport?
What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
I’ve never netted a fish with a golf club. Maybe that’s my problem
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: tmd11111]
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02/25/22 12:28 AM
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ezbassin
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[quote=bsbeantx]Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport?
What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
I’ve never netted a fish with a golf club. Maybe that’s my problem Could be. Try it next time you go out.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: ezbassin]
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02/25/22 12:29 AM
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tmd11111
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[quote=bsbeantx]Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport?
What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
I’ve never netted a fish with a golf club. Maybe that’s my problem Could be. Try it next time you go out. I’m left handed so not sure it would work.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: MTH82]
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02/25/22 01:05 AM
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bockscar
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1. Spot lock 2. Live/Forward facing sonar
you could give me the highest end live tech....and I wouldnt trade it for spot lock. I literally could not fish without spot lock at my home lake. Its always windy there and i fish out of a tin can....spot lock is an absolute must.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: ezbassin]
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02/25/22 01:15 AM
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bockscar
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[quote=bsbeantx]Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport?
What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
say what you want about the fish being caught with Live....but mapping has helped people catch fish probably more than anything else out there, even spot lock. People were video game fishing with 2D. The line in the sand gets drawn on an individual basis for the threshold of what the individual is willing to pay. Its always been like this. When Mega came out you had the trash talking...from those who didnt have it. When Livescope came out you heard the trash talking....from those who didnt have it. Take all your tech off your boat....and I mean all, then ill take the "fair sport" argument more seriously. Just like with 2D, DI and SI.....some dudes just know how to make it work for them better than others and will make it seem like its "unfair" to outsiders. Give me, and all of you all the same tech and baits as JJ......hard pill to swallow, but theres no way any of us would have the same results JJ is having. Plain and simple. Thats a tough pill to swallow tho....and its human nature to find a excuse for why you arent able to do the same. in my opinion
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: MTH82]
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02/25/22 01:17 AM
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SAdoc
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It’s just not right that these guys are turning something that should be dumb luck into a learnable skill………
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: MTH82]
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02/25/22 01:18 AM
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NTX Angler
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Well let's see, I fished same trees same depth same set up same time and got 0 bites. Guy with livescope same trees same area caught 16 crappie all over 14.5 inches. I went and purchased livescope the next day.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: Hulapoppin]
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02/25/22 01:56 AM
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HARD WORKN HAROLD
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Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport? What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use? I have livescope, spot lock, power poles and graphs on every corner of the boat but the biggest game changer for me was when my ol lady started fishing with me. Now when all that other stuff doesn’t put fish in the boat I can pull over in a secluded area and really enjoy a day on the water. OMG!!! That's funny right there.
DON'T LET THE CLOTHES FOOL YA Life is too short to fish with a dead cricket! PB: wife of 40 years
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
[Re: MTH82]
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02/25/22 02:13 AM
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HARD WORKN HAROLD
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I will say this. I'm a boat official with MLF, and have had several anglers talk about FFS. Pretty much it's " when is enough, enough". One angler said this should be outlawed, it's taken alot of the skill out of the equation. But this same angler used FFS and didn't cast until he spotted a fish.All of the anglers I went with at Fork used FFS and didn't throw until they had fish in their sights.They did not always catch those fish, in fact, alot of the time the fish would follow the bait back to the boat and turn away. Saw this first hand, it was amazing. Going to have to draw a line some where. At Champlain and St. Clair last year, everyone was targeting the small mouth and did not cast until they spotted the fish. Makes me wonder what they did before FFS. The big bucks will win out, they always do. It's here to stay.
DON'T LET THE CLOTHES FOOL YA Life is too short to fish with a dead cricket! PB: wife of 40 years
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/25/22 02:42 AM
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ezbassin
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It is just a more efficient way to fish.
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