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Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
Posted By: MTH82
Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 07:31 PM
It seems this Livescope technology has changed the sport of fishing more than anything has changed the sport in decades, maybe ever. If you know how to use it, it seems it's more like hunting than fishing. You troll around looking for monster bass on a screen. Once you find it you take a shot. It seems more like trophy elk hunting with a bow than your typical fishing. You may be able to see a monster elk, but to get it in range of a bow and for everything to line up, that's a different story.
On a lake the size (20,000 acres) of OH Ivie, over time it seems that you could get a good idea of almost every large fish in that lake. Almost like you could identify every trophy elk on a 20,000 acre property. I know an acre of water supports more fish than an acre of land does for elk, but I would imagine, over time, you would know a good percentage of the trophy fish in a body of water that size.
I know these guys like Josh can tell if it's a large bass on the screen, but can they judge a fish within a pound or two of it's actual weight? Also, I would imagine he's seen fish on the screen that he wasn't able to hook and has gone back after that particular fish time and time again.
Am I off on all this? I don't think this is a bad thing, just think it has changed things significantly.
Posted By: Weekender1
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 08:25 PM
I don't have livescope (Yet) but still believe that the Ultrex was the biggest game changer for me. I love to fish off shore and now can hold on my spot without using an anchor or even worse anchorS.
Jody
Posted By: Douglas J
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 08:28 PM
It is for those that learn to utilize it.
Most of us do not take the time to learn to use our electronics properly and would be just as well off with a 2-D unit with GPS.
Posted By: grout-scout
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 08:39 PM
I never imagined that someone would intentionally just troll around all day for the chance to throw at 1 fish. If the record happens to fall due to FFS, it will definitely mean less to me. I’m sure sales for FFS would go insane though.
Biggest game changer? For a few guys, it certainly is.
Posted By: Jarrett Latta
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 08:43 PM
I think it is for these special fish that ordinarily wouldn't get caught. I truly believe there's a percentage of these large Florida's that simply don't bite outside the spawn. Livescope puts them in a vulnerable position with a bait literally invading their space repeatedly. It is a game changer and it will be responsible for tons of tournaments won and already has. Especially the tour levels.
Posted By: Okie Poke
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 08:52 PM
Livescope has changed the way that a few will now fish. Although, people may know the basic strategy in hunting the giants, I would say that 90% of the folks will never master it and will eventually give up. It's not that easy. The biggest game changer IMO has been the spot lock technology. Everybody knows how to master that one....even me.
Posted By: Top Waters
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 08:55 PM
I installed Active Target a couple of weeks ago and am really impressed with what I can see under water. But let's stop and think about where this is headed. I have no problem with technology changing the way we do things. Just look how it impacts our lives in other ways from how we make coffee in Keurigs to using trail cameras to know which deer stand to go to next. 20 years ago we looked at graphs that gave use greyscale arches on a 6" screen and we thought that was so awesome. If you think FFS is awesome now, in 20 years (probably less) we will be looking at images of fish that are so clear you will be able to identify whether it is a Florida bass, spotted bass, or a Guadalupe bass. Heck, they may even have a feature that shows whether the fish want a jerk bait or a jig based on how their fins are flapping. The game has changed.....and it will keep changing.
Posted By: june-bug
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 08:56 PM
I saw someone asked Josh recently on how accurately he could judge the fishes size on FFS and I believe he said that he is usually within a half pound or so. I do believe that for the guys like himself and some others that have learned how to use it to the fullest it is absolutely the biggest game changer ever. Going out and catching a DD has always been something really special. An unusual occurrence that many of us and our friends waited for years to happen.. It's becoming a daily occurrence for JJ and that to me just takes something away from the overall accomplishment. I agree with you grout-scout that if the world, state or even lake records fall due to FFS it will definitely mean less to me also. In my opinion there should probably be an asterisk by it in the books. What these guy's are doing is amazing and I'm not knocking it but it's only a matter of time before many, many more will learn the technology and become close to or better than he currently is. It seems to me that after a while if you just go out and catch a DD a couple times a week at some point it's just not impressive any more.
Posted By: Big Swimbait
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 08:58 PM
I think it is for these special fish that ordinarily wouldn't get caught. I truly believe there's a percentage of these large Florida's that simply don't bite outside the spawn. Livescope puts them in a vulnerable position with a bait literally invading their space repeatedly. It is a game changer and it will be responsible for tons of tournaments won and already has. Especially the tour levels.
I agree. The guys that have learned to use it are targeting fish of all sizes. Wheeler and the father and son Jones' have put on a clinic at Mother Fork this week.
Posted By: GarySHO
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 09:07 PM
Catching fish is only part of what FFS does for you. You can see how fish relate to structure during different weather fronts or after a fast rise or how they respond to a color etc. You can tell if the fish are spooky or aggressive or actively eating on a deep school of shad you would never see before. You can start to put the puzzle together and expect certain scenarios beforehand based on what you know about the lake or weather changes and what you have seen before on the FFS on similar prior trips.
Posted By: Hook'em79
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 09:12 PM
Without a doubt.
Posted By: manhunter
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 09:19 PM
I listened to an interview with John Soukup (pro Angler and owner of The Bass Tank) and he was telling a story about how he and his son have "no electronics days" of fishing. He said his 12 year old gets more stoked to go "naked" than use the technology. I think there is something pure and exciting about the unknown and not knowing what lurks beneath. However, to compete these days you simply have got to have it or get left behind.
Posted By: MTH82
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 09:27 PM
I saw someone asked Josh recently on how accurately he could judge the fishes size on FFS and I believe he said that he is usually within a half pound or so. I do believe that for the guys like himself and some others that have learned how to use it to the fullest it is absolutely the biggest game changer ever. Going out and catching a DD has always been something really special. An unusual occurrence that many of us and our friends waited for years to happen.. It's becoming a daily occurrence for JJ and that to me just takes something away from the overall accomplishment. I agree with you grout-scout that if the world, state or even lake records fall due to FFS it will definitely mean less to me also. In my opinion there should probably be an asterisk by it in the books. What these guy's are doing is amazing and I'm not knocking it but it's only a matter of time before many, many more will learn the technology and become close to or better than he currently is. It seems to me that after a while if you just go out and catch a DD a couple times a week at some point it's just not impressive any more.
If Josh can tell what a fish weighs to within half a pound, can you imagine what would happen to a lake if someone sees an 18+ pounder on the screen and doesn't catch it? I know many people can't judge fish that well, but with the technology at some point judging the weight of the fish will be easy. Once someone sees that lake / state / world record that place is going to get pounded. It'll be like someone getting a picture of a world record whitetail in a public hunting area.
I'd be curious to hear about what Josh has seen and hasn't been able to catch. Has he said he's seen record fish before and been unable to catch them?
Posted By: AdvTX
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 09:51 PM
There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish.
Posted By: champ 198
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:01 PM
LOL and just like that a 17.06 today, 20mph wind and 20 degree temp.
Posted By: Yankee_Bass
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:04 PM
Yes, but only because a few have figured out how to search for fish and who had already understood the seasonal movements of Bass. It's been in use for awhile.
Posted By: cephusjoe
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:20 PM
I choose not to buy it. I’m not a hater by any means but I go fishing to get away from screens. I remember when using a camera was against the rules in most tournaments.
Spot lock has my vote
Posted By: J.P. Greeson
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:20 PM
There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish.
Maybe I am misreading what you are saying. Are you saying you don't think any of these fish being caught with live/active type electronics should qualify for lake records?
As long as they are not snagged, why wouldn't they qualify?
Posted By: bassnman
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:36 PM
It will (already has) change tournament outcomes. For serious tournament guys especially it will be a game changer. I am on old guy that still calls my HDS Lives depth finders. I bought Active
Target and will try it out but I will never spend all day looking for a fish. I like fishing too much. I fish long and hard but its relaxing too. I suspect there are many like me. Spot Lock was the game changer for me.
Posted By: tmd11111
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:36 PM
There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish.
Why not? Why stop at livescope, how about 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass and a map. Or how about fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks. Sound foolish, then so does your comment.
Posted By: AdvTX
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:40 PM
I’m saying everyone should have fun with this stuff if they want to but as far as records go they should have an asterisk or a complete separate set of records. The technology will only get better and a lot of records will fall. Imagine some guy has been fishing a small lake for 20 years and he’s stick and finally caught a 12 JJ hears about it and catches a 14 there the following week…..
I guess I’m way to old school for this stuff lol
Posted By: ezbassin
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:41 PM
There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish.
Why not? Why stop at livescope, how about 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass and a map. Or how about fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks. Sound foolish, then so does your comment.
I agree. Why go back in time. If you are one of those, get you a canoe, a paddle and a 1967 3 on the tree, 6 cylinder truck to throw it in the back of and go fishing.
Posted By: ezbassin
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:42 PM
I have active target on my boat and like it but I like my T/M spot lock feature even better. Third would be the ladder that I added to the front of my trailer so now I don't have to climb in the boat from the side using the fenders. Too old for that any more.
Posted By: ezbassin
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:50 PM
There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish.
So any fish spotted with electronics as far back as a flasher and caught should not be recognized according to you. correct, because after all you did see the fish as a blip on the flasher so you know it is there.
Posted By: june-bug
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:53 PM
There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish.
Why not? Why stop at livescope, how about 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass and a map. Or how about fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks. Sound foolish, then so does your comment.
Can you troll around and look for, find and then study a 15lb bass's behavior that's suspended out in the middle of the lake that you would have otherwise never known was there and then play with her long enough until you finally get her to bite using 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass, a map, fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks? No you can't.
Posted By: bsbeantx
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:56 PM
Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport? The next gen live sonar could present a live 3d model rendering that even provides estimated size/weight. Larger area scans with picture like detail, even the most novice will be able to interpret the data like a pro. Hell you can see a baby’s face these days before its born so I see this evolving into more quickly.
To pick the right lure and shake it in front of a fish that you know is there doesn’t take near as much skill. There may be a learning curve today however that will end and soon this industry will have to face the ethics of live imaging.
Posted By: Dr JL
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:56 PM
Gonna say, yes
Posted By: tmd11111
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 10:59 PM
There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish.
Why not? Why stop at livescope, how about 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass and a map. Or how about fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks. Sound foolish, then so does your comment.
Can you troll around and look for, find and then study a 15lb bass's behavior that's suspended out in the middle of the lake that you would have otherwise never known was there and then play with her long enough until you finally get her to bite using 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass, a map, fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks? No you can't.
You're right, what was I thinking. I totally forgot the Color-C-Lecor.
Posted By: Douglas J
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 11:02 PM
There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish.
Maybe I am misreading what you are saying. Are you saying you don't think any of these fish being caught with live/active type electronics should qualify for lake records?
As long as they are not snagged, why wouldn't they qualify?
Because he's a purist?
If so, I hope his fishing consists of swimming with the fish and taking them by spear which he hand carved from a branch.
Posted By: Frank the Tank
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 11:12 PM
Yes. Since spot lock.
Posted By: AdvTX
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 11:21 PM
Y’all are funny and it’s ok to disagree.
You can’t compare any of that to scoping. If you took it away from JJ would he ever catch another one? Would he have ever caught one at all?…..exactly
All I was trying to say is records are to special to let them get replaced this way.
And nothing against JJ I love seeing people have fun anyway they want.
Posted By: NTX Angler
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 11:42 PM
Well let's see, I fished same trees same depth same set up same time and got 0 bites. Guy with livescope same trees same area caught 16 crappie all over 14.5 inches. I went and purchased livescope the next day.
Posted By: Hulapoppin
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 11:47 PM
I have livescope, spot lock, power poles and graphs on every corner of the boat but the biggest game changer for me was when my ol lady started fishing with me. Now when all that other stuff doesn’t put fish in the boat I can pull over in a secluded area and really enjoy a day on the water.
Posted By: ezbassin
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/24/22 11:56 PM
Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport?
What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
Posted By: JoeDouble
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 12:07 AM
Public water with the same equipment you can go buy??
Posted By: tmd11111
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 12:13 AM
[quote=bsbeantx]Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport?
What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
I’ve never netted a fish with a golf club. Maybe that’s my problem
Posted By: ezbassin
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 12:28 AM
[quote=bsbeantx]Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport?
What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
I’ve never netted a fish with a golf club. Maybe that’s my problem
Could be. Try it next time you go out.
Posted By: tmd11111
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 12:29 AM
[quote=bsbeantx]Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport?
What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
I’ve never netted a fish with a golf club. Maybe that’s my problem
Could be. Try it next time you go out.
I’m left handed so not sure it would work.
Posted By: bockscar
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 01:05 AM
1. Spot lock
2. Live/Forward facing sonar
you could give me the highest end live tech....and I wouldnt trade it for spot lock. I literally could not fish without spot lock at my home lake. Its always windy there and i fish out of a tin can....spot lock is an absolute must.
Posted By: bockscar
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 01:15 AM
[quote=bsbeantx]Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport?
What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
say what you want about the fish being caught with Live....but mapping has helped people catch fish probably more than anything else out there, even spot lock. People were video game fishing with 2D.
The line in the sand gets drawn on an individual basis for the threshold of what the individual is willing to pay. Its always been like this. When Mega came out you had the trash talking...from those who didnt have it. When Livescope came out you heard the trash talking....from those who didnt have it.
Take all your tech off your boat....and I mean all, then ill take the "fair sport" argument more seriously. Just like with 2D, DI and SI.....some dudes just know how to make it work for them better than others and will make it seem like its "unfair" to outsiders. Give me, and all of you all the same tech and baits as JJ......hard pill to swallow, but theres no way any of us would have the same results JJ is having. Plain and simple. Thats a tough pill to swallow tho....and its human nature to find a excuse for why you arent able to do the same.
in my opinion
Posted By: SAdoc
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 01:17 AM
It’s just not right that these guys are turning something that should be dumb luck into a learnable skill………
Posted By: NTX Angler
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 01:18 AM
Well let's see, I fished same trees same depth same set up same time and got 0 bites. Guy with livescope same trees same area caught 16 crappie all over 14.5 inches. I went and purchased livescope the next day.
Posted By: HARD WORKN HAROLD
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 01:56 AM
Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport?
What about golf clubs that allow you to adjust the angle of the head? Are those not fair to use?
I have livescope, spot lock, power poles and graphs on every corner of the boat but the biggest game changer for me was when my ol lady started fishing with me. Now when all that other stuff doesn’t put fish in the boat I can pull over in a secluded area and really enjoy a day on the water.
OMG!!! That's funny right there.
Posted By: HARD WORKN HAROLD
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 02:13 AM
I will say this. I'm a boat official with MLF, and have had several anglers talk about FFS. Pretty much it's " when is enough, enough". One angler said this should be outlawed, it's taken alot of the skill out of the equation. But this same angler used FFS and didn't cast until he spotted a fish.All of the anglers I went with at Fork used FFS and didn't throw until they had fish in their sights.They did not always catch those fish, in fact, alot of the time the fish would follow the bait back to the boat and turn away. Saw this first hand, it was amazing. Going to have to draw a line some where. At Champlain and St. Clair last year, everyone was targeting the small mouth and did not cast until they spotted the fish. Makes me wonder what they did before FFS. The big bucks will win out, they always do. It's here to stay.
Posted By: ezbassin
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 02:42 AM
It is just a more efficient way to fish.
Posted By: Jason B.
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 04:36 AM
I’m saying everyone should have fun with this stuff if they want to but as far as records go they should have an asterisk or a complete separate set of records. The technology will only get better and a lot of records will fall. Imagine some guy has been fishing a small lake for 20 years and he’s stick and finally caught a 12 JJ hears about it and catches a 14 there the following week…..
I guess I’m way to old school for this stuff lol
I’m a little bit old school as well. Never have learned to use the fishing electronics very well. Just don’t have the patience to actually learn to use them. That being said, I don’t feel like these guys utilizing the current technology should have an asterisk next to their names in record books. There are probably thousands of anglers with these graphs on their boats, and only a handful catching these big fish. Although they make it look easy, it’s really not. However, everybody is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that. Everyone has different viewpoints on this subject. Some people will try to diminish Hannon’s numbers because he used live bait most of the time. That’s their right. Some will downplay Butch Brown’s stats because he fished on smaller, trout stocked lakes with limited access. Again, their opinion. In the end, if the angler is catching fish legally, I’ll give them full credit for what they catch.
Posted By: bloo_rainger
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 12:40 PM
We’ve now entered the Steroid era of fishing.
It is what it is, but I think we’re going to see a lot of former good sticks get left behind.
Posted By: over the hill @PK
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 01:24 PM
I just wonder where does bass fishing go next ? It is amazing to me the amount of money a person will spend to catch a giant bass. It is coming to the point where a line has to be drawn to say this is to much .Lake Ivy is at it's peak now but will not be there for long at the rate these fish are being caught .The good thing though is that most all of us Bass fisherman do release our fish back into the water .The gene pool from park& wildlife should be the best it has ever been and like usual lake fork will get the bigger share of them ,
Posted By: AdvTX
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 01:37 PM
I have livescope, spot lock, power poles and graphs on every corner of the boat but the biggest game changer for me was when my ol lady started fishing with me. Now when all that other stuff doesn’t put fish in the boat I can pull over in a secluded area and really enjoy a day on the water.
[quote=Hulapoppin]I YOU WIN SIR!
I guess we can’t all agree that the pros definitely shouldn’t be using it?
How many times have we all said…I know there’s one here….I feel it….I’m about to get a bite….I knew it…..it completely takes away the I wonder and anticipation.
Posted By: kscatman76
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 01:42 PM
I personally don't think it's hurt a darn thing because these fish that are being exploited have basically not been fished for.......ever. These are fish that are living basically their whole life out deep and suspended, more like a big striper than a big bass in our minds. I think they spawn deep and they simply don't leave their home range much. I think all we have done is drive over them to go beat banks for the last 80 or whatever years bass boats have been out. I think the fish that the common "bass guy" fish for are still going to be in the same spots and doing the same things and when we catch 7 plus pounders we are pumped etc. But these what I call "Megas" are just fish that have never been touched before and honestly 95% of us still won't be able to touch them. I have Livescope, I suck at it. Sure I try and it's a blast when it works etc but i'll be the first to admit I suck at it. To me it's like painting, we all can buy a brush but there are only so many Picasso's.
Posted By: JIM SR.
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 01:51 PM
electric start motors...I couldnt imagine hand cranking that 250 all day...
Posted By: SteezMacQueen
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 01:56 PM
I have all the latest, greatest game changers…I’d say it’s in the top ten, but it ain’t the best.
Posted By: Mark Perry
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 02:10 PM
I think at some point with so many using FFS and getting offshore that it will cause the shallow bite to get even better for those of us that prefer to stay shallow.
Posted By: pacertom
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 02:31 PM
I think at some point with so many using FFS and getting offshore that it will cause the shallow bite to get even better for those of us that prefer to stay shallow.
Like this thought
Posted By: Big Swimbait
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 02:44 PM
I remember fishing with Bill Fox on Toledo Bend in the 80's out of his lodge. We would bass fish the early morning bite and when that died down, he fired up the paper graph and we went striper fishing. I can't tell you how many times he told me while graphing that deep river channel that there were giant bass down there in that deep timber on the edge that will never see a lure. Obviously he was right and I think the same thing applies to all of our trophy lakes. FFS may change that.
Posted By: Jimfishes
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 02:50 PM
I choose not to buy it. I’m not a hater by any means but I go fishing to get away from screens. I remember when using a camera was against the rules in most tournaments.
Spot lock has my vote
Yep, this is my opinion too. Wife asked me the other day when I was going to get FF sonar and I replied that I don't plan to get it because I just enjoy getting out on the water and the challenge of figuring them out. I'm not fishing tournaments or trying to impress people with my fishing skills, so I'm ok with my Humminbird Helix units with SI, DI and gps. I do like my Ultrex with spot lock.
Posted By: Brent S
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 02:51 PM
Livescope and 360 will replace 2d and down imaging
Posted By: J.H.S.
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 03:05 PM
I guess I am an odd one. I go to the lake to get away from it all. I enjoy being out in nature and taking note of my surroundings. When I go out and see these guys in the middle of the lake looking down I feel like they are missing what is truly great about the sport. I feel like I am one of the few that fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing. I don't care if I ever catch a SAL, I have no desire to ever be a "sponsored fisherman" trying to make a living in the industry with wrapped boats and discounts, I don't have any need for recognition in the sport. I just love to fish. I will preface my next comment by saying this, I have nothing against FFS or those that use it, however, this is taking the natural skill and instinct out of the sport, and replacing it with a more technological, fast-paced approach, which is what I am trying to get away from when I hit the lake. I am only 33 years old, and I feel like the sport is leaving me behind, and honestly, I think I have decided I am okay with that. I am not a huge fan of what the sport is becoming from a competitive standpoint. That is just my opinion, not looking to argue (for once).
Posted By: The Netstretcher
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 03:08 PM
MLF has an article out about the 5 DDs caught at Fork this week. 4 of the 5 were caught using FFS.
Posted By: cajuncountryman
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 03:16 PM
"this is taking the natural skill and instinct out of the sport"..........................................J.H.S.- perfectly stated by you & I agree 100%. Many will never know the real thrill of finding & catching that big bass or finding a nice group of fish with their own skill & ability without the help of all the electronics that says " throw right here " Thanks J.H.S. & keep enjoying the nature on the lake as it is now- because we are killing it slowly.
JMO
Posted By: MTH82
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 04:02 PM
To me it sounds like it takes more skill and ability to catch a DD using FFS than it does without it. Without it, it's blind luck. From what it sounds like, utilizing FFS is a real learned skill. If you're not into it, that's completely fine, I just don't see how it cheapens it. Anyone can throw a lure in the water and happen to catch a DD. Not everyone is skilled enough in FFS to utilize it to catch a DD. To each their own.
Posted By: rj74955
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 04:17 PM
It’s not just about the livescope. This wouldn’t be happening without the a-rig and the cold water. The rig has been dominating everything in cold water way before ffs came out. When you put those 3 things together it’s the perfect storm.
Posted By: J.P. Greeson
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 04:21 PM
I guess I am an odd one. I go to the lake to get away from it all. I enjoy being out in nature and taking note of my surroundings. When I go out and see these guys in the middle of the lake looking down I feel like they are missing what is truly great about the sport. I feel like I am one of the few that fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing. I don't care if I ever catch a SAL, I have no desire to ever be a "sponsored fisherman" trying to make a living in the industry with wrapped boats and discounts, I don't have any need for recognition in the sport. I just love to fish. I will preface my next comment by saying this, I have nothing against FFS or those that use it, however, this is taking the natural skill and instinct out of the sport, and replacing it with a more technological, fast-paced approach, which is what I am trying to get away from when I hit the lake. I am only 33 years old, and I feel like the sport is leaving me behind, and honestly, I think I have decided I am okay with that. I am not a huge fan of what the sport is becoming from a competitive standpoint. That is just my opinion, not looking to argue (for once).
Good points Josh! There's nothing better than the sunrise or sunset while you are on the water, or getting to see a deer or otter going about their business while you are out fishing. We all spend way too much time staring at screens.
Posted By: bockscar
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 04:54 PM
I guess I am an odd one. I go to the lake to get away from it all. I enjoy being out in nature and taking note of my surroundings. When I go out and see these guys in the middle of the lake looking down I feel like they are missing what is truly great about the sport. I feel like I am one of the few that fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing. I don't care if I ever catch a SAL, I have no desire to ever be a "sponsored fisherman" trying to make a living in the industry with wrapped boats and discounts, I don't have any need for recognition in the sport. I just love to fish. I will preface my next comment by saying this, I have nothing against FFS or those that use it, however, this is taking the natural skill and instinct out of the sport, and replacing it with a more technological, fast-paced approach, which is what I am trying to get away from when I hit the lake. I am only 33 years old, and I feel like the sport is leaving me behind, and honestly, I think I have decided I am okay with that. I am not a huge fan of what the sport is becoming from a competitive standpoint. That is just my opinion, not looking to argue (for once).
Didnt you say you were buying a Mega 360?
Posted By: kscatman76
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 04:57 PM
So you guys that say your not buying a FF sonar because it's ruining fishing and you enjoy just figuring them out yourself and yada yada......are you using a fish finder? gps maps on them? down scan or side scan? Cause if you are your just being hypocritical because at some point and time each of those technologies were exactly like Livescope or FF sonar are, they were tools someone used to catch more fish and eventually we all used them as they became the standard. If you wanna drive around a lake with no graph and no clue how deep your fishing and throw your purple auger tail worm out and just enjoy looking at nature and fishing more power to you no doubt about it that's awesome. But none of you are doing that. Each of you have a graph, a gps or down and side imaging and that was THE technology in their day.
Posted By: grout-scout
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 05:23 PM
To me it sounds like it takes more skill and ability to catch a DD using FFS than it does without it. Without it, it's blind luck. From what it sounds like, utilizing FFS is a real learned skill. If you're not into it, that's completely fine, I just don't see how it cheapens it. Anyone can throw a lure in the water and happen to catch a DD. Not everyone is skilled enough in FFS to utilize it to catch a DD. To each their own.
These guys are finding the fish and casting directly to them. There is not a question of doubt in the world that it is easier to catch a fish with FFS, than without it. How many giant bass was Jones catching before LS/AT? And how many is he catching now? Millikens caught all those giant fish at Ivie because of his FFS.
Now yeah, it takes a special person to just troll around looking for 1 fish to throw to.
Posted By: AdvTX
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 05:46 PM
I seriously doubt I can make this make any sense because I’m not the best at putting my thoughts into type. I’m not just talking out of my….I’ve been in several boats with it and have seen it myself and thought about it. scoping doesn’t only effect the boat using it. Imagine your favorite cove has 300 fish in it but only 15 are in the mood to eat and before you get there and without you knowing several people went through scoping….yes they may have had a bunch follow but they caught the ones in the mood and this over time will have an effect on making fish more “smart” or lure shy.
I totally get it, we all have such limited time now and everyone wants shortcuts but nothing we have used in the past comes close to scoping so that argument doesn’t work.
Posted By: bassnman
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/25/22 11:02 PM
I have active target on my boat and like it but I like my T/M spot lock feature even better. Third would be the ladder that I added to the front of my trailer so now I don't have to climb in the boat from the side using the fenders. Too old for that any more.
Me 2!! I agree 100%. That ladder rocks.
Posted By: J.H.S.
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 12:00 AM
I guess I am an odd one. I go to the lake to get away from it all. I enjoy being out in nature and taking note of my surroundings. When I go out and see these guys in the middle of the lake looking down I feel like they are missing what is truly great about the sport. I feel like I am one of the few that fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing. I don't care if I ever catch a SAL, I have no desire to ever be a "sponsored fisherman" trying to make a living in the industry with wrapped boats and discounts, I don't have any need for recognition in the sport. I just love to fish. I will preface my next comment by saying this, I have nothing against FFS or those that use it, however, this is taking the natural skill and instinct out of the sport, and replacing it with a more technological, fast-paced approach, which is what I am trying to get away from when I hit the lake. I am only 33 years old, and I feel like the sport is leaving me behind, and honestly, I think I have decided I am okay with that. I am not a huge fan of what the sport is becoming from a competitive standpoint. That is just my opinion, not looking to argue (for once).
Didnt you say you were buying a Mega 360?
At one point I had considered purchasing the 360. But having sat back and reevaluated exactly why it is I fish, and at exactly what level it is I fish at, I decided that honestly it’s not something I need. I’m not a professional. I have no desire to be. I don’t need to have the latest and greatest. The more I sat back and looked at things I have decided I really just enjoying going, no matter what the outcome is of the day is. Just like with phones and other technologies we are missing things going on around us. And for what? I don’t need a SAL to validate myself as a fisherman. It’s just not important to ME. What others decide to purchase for whatever reasons they decide to purchase it are their own reasons and I’ve spent to much time on here wrongly judging others for it. I’m simply stating my reasons for not having one, and for the foreseeable future not purchasing FFS (360 included). We all have our own reasons for fishing. Some people need that picture with a 30 pound sack or 13+ pound fish, and that’s okay. I don’t. I’ve said it before but I’m a nobody in this industry and I’m 110% good with staying that way.
Posted By: bockscar
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 12:44 AM
At one point I had considered purchasing the 360. But having sat back and reevaluated exactly why it is I fish, and at exactly what level it is I fish at, I decided that honestly it’s not something I need. I’m not a professional. I have no desire to be. I don’t need to have the latest and greatest. The more I sat back and looked at things I have decided I really just enjoying going, no matter what the outcome is of the day is. Just like with phones and other technologies we are missing things going on around us. And for what? I don’t need a SAL to validate myself as a fisherman. It’s just not important to ME. What others decide to purchase for whatever reasons they decide to purchase it are their own reasons and I’ve spent to much time on here wrongly judging others for it. I’m simply stating my reasons for not having one, and for the foreseeable future not purchasing FFS (360 included). We all have our own reasons for fishing. Some people need that picture with a 30 pound sack or 13+ pound fish, and that’s okay. I don’t. I’ve said it before but I’m a nobody in this industry and I’m 110% good with staying that way.
Ok. I just remember you last week gassing up 360 and how it was better for the way you fish than forward facing sonar and mentioning it . So the whole "enjoy being out in nature" comment surprised me since you seemed very pro 360 about a week ago. Glad you figured out what was important to you. Staring at a screen can def take some fun out of it.
Posted By: Douglas J
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 01:04 AM
I guess I am an odd one. I go to the lake to get away from it all. I enjoy being out in nature and taking note of my surroundings. When I go out and see these guys in the middle of the lake looking down I feel like they are missing what is truly great about the sport. I feel like I am one of the few that fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing. I don't care if I ever catch a SAL, I have no desire to ever be a "sponsored fisherman" trying to make a living in the industry with wrapped boats and discounts, I don't have any need for recognition in the sport. I just love to fish. I will preface my next comment by saying this, I have nothing against FFS or those that use it, however, this is taking the natural skill and instinct out of the sport, and replacing it with a more technological, fast-paced approach, which is what I am trying to get away from when I hit the lake. I am only 33 years old, and I feel like the sport is leaving me behind, and honestly, I think I have decided I am okay with that. I am not a huge fan of what the sport is becoming from a competitive standpoint. That is just my opinion, not looking to argue (for once).
Didnt you say you were buying a Mega 360?
Josh is this your boat with a "wrap" on it?
Posted By: tmd11111
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 01:17 AM
I guess I am an odd one. I go to the lake to get away from it all. I enjoy being out in nature and taking note of my surroundings. When I go out and see these guys in the middle of the lake looking down I feel like they are missing what is truly great about the sport. I feel like I am one of the few that fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing. I don't care if I ever catch a SAL, I have no desire to ever be a "sponsored fisherman" trying to make a living in the industry with wrapped boats and discounts, I don't have any need for recognition in the sport. I just love to fish. I will preface my next comment by saying this, I have nothing against FFS or those that use it, however, this is taking the natural skill and instinct out of the sport, and replacing it with a more technological, fast-paced approach, which is what I am trying to get away from when I hit the lake. I am only 33 years old, and I feel like the sport is leaving me behind, and honestly, I think I have decided I am okay with that. I am not a huge fan of what the sport is becoming from a competitive standpoint. That is just my opinion, not looking to argue (for once).
Didnt you say you were buying a Mega 360?
Josh is this your boat with a "wrap" on it?
I’ll vouch for Josh’s abilities, he kicks most butts in our club tournaments. As for his boat, that’s a Lowe Favorite Edition. It came that way.
Posted By: Ibock
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 01:39 AM
What I don’t like about all this tech is it takes a lot of the mental game out of it. It takes a lot of persistence and mental toughness to throw into water you have no idea if where you are casting even holds a fish. How many times do you cast in the same location? Obviously in every sport you have to draw a line of fairness and how hard you want the game to be. In football you can’t tackle people by the face mask ,you can’t have stick em on your hands, you can’t hold. Etc. We have to come up with rules for games all the time. Sometimes you have to change rules based on technolgy. Bragging about a fish you caught on a camera is like bragging about a fish you catch on live bait…its still cool but its not the same as a txrig plastic worm that you had to work to make the fish bite. I feel the A rig is similar. It’s like have 5-10 lines in the water. I know that’s its not that simplistic but every know that people would not be catching fish like we have seen without all this help. I mean some fly fisherman think using a lure is cheating…just my 2 cents
Posted By: tmd11111
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 01:51 AM
Just because it lets you see a fish it doesn’t mean it will bite no matter what you toss in front of it
Posted By: Ibock
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 02:17 AM
Agree but the chances go up 1000 percent.
Posted By: J.H.S.
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 02:50 AM
I guess I am an odd one. I go to the lake to get away from it all. I enjoy being out in nature and taking note of my surroundings. When I go out and see these guys in the middle of the lake looking down I feel like they are missing what is truly great about the sport. I feel like I am one of the few that fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing. I don't care if I ever catch a SAL, I have no desire to ever be a "sponsored fisherman" trying to make a living in the industry with wrapped boats and discounts, I don't have any need for recognition in the sport. I just love to fish. I will preface my next comment by saying this, I have nothing against FFS or those that use it, however, this is taking the natural skill and instinct out of the sport, and replacing it with a more technological, fast-paced approach, which is what I am trying to get away from when I hit the lake. I am only 33 years old, and I feel like the sport is leaving me behind, and honestly, I think I have decided I am okay with that. I am not a huge fan of what the sport is becoming from a competitive standpoint. That is just my opinion, not looking to argue (for once).
Didnt you say you were buying a Mega 360?
Josh is this your boat with a "wrap" on it?
Yes sir. That is my boat but it’s not a wrap. I bought the Lowe Favorite fishing edition boat from Sandy creek in Breckenridge (well what used to be Sandy creek). That is how the boat came. I’m in no way associated with favorite it’s just the way the boat comes when purchased. Like the ranger nascar edition boat. Pretty soon it will just be all black because the stickers are scratching off from all the salt cedars.
Posted By: J.H.S.
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 02:57 AM
At one point I had considered purchasing the 360. But having sat back and reevaluated exactly why it is I fish, and at exactly what level it is I fish at, I decided that honestly it’s not something I need. I’m not a professional. I have no desire to be. I don’t need to have the latest and greatest. The more I sat back and looked at things I have decided I really just enjoying going, no matter what the outcome is of the day is. Just like with phones and other technologies we are missing things going on around us. And for what? I don’t need a SAL to validate myself as a fisherman. It’s just not important to ME. What others decide to purchase for whatever reasons they decide to purchase it are their own reasons and I’ve spent to much time on here wrongly judging others for it. I’m simply stating my reasons for not having one, and for the foreseeable future not purchasing FFS (360 included). We all have our own reasons for fishing. Some people need that picture with a 30 pound sack or 13+ pound fish, and that’s okay. I don’t. I’ve said it before but I’m a nobody in this industry and I’m 110% good with staying that way.
Ok. I just remember you last week gassing up 360 and how it was better for the way you fish than forward facing sonar and mentioning it . So the whole "enjoy being out in nature" comment surprised me since you seemed very pro 360 about a week ago. Glad you figured out what was important to you. Staring at a screen can def take some fun out of it.
I wasn’t gassing up anything. Out of the two 360 would fit me better than FFS. Doesn’t mean I’m going out to buy it. I live less than 6 feet 98% of the year so honestly my biggest tool is my trolling motor and lithiums. I’m a lousy offshore angler.
Posted By: Douglas J
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 03:02 AM
I guess I am an odd one. I go to the lake to get away from it all. I enjoy being out in nature and taking note of my surroundings. When I go out and see these guys in the middle of the lake looking down I feel like they are missing what is truly great about the sport. I feel like I am one of the few that fish purely for the enjoyment of fishing. I don't care if I ever catch a SAL, I have no desire to ever be a "sponsored fisherman" trying to make a living in the industry with wrapped boats and discounts, I don't have any need for recognition in the sport. I just love to fish. I will preface my next comment by saying this, I have nothing against FFS or those that use it, however, this is taking the natural skill and instinct out of the sport, and replacing it with a more technological, fast-paced approach, which is what I am trying to get away from when I hit the lake. I am only 33 years old, and I feel like the sport is leaving me behind, and honestly, I think I have decided I am okay with that. I am not a huge fan of what the sport is becoming from a competitive standpoint. That is just my opinion, not looking to argue (for once).
Didnt you say you were buying a Mega 360?
Josh is this your boat with a "wrap" on it?
Yes sir. That is my boat but it’s not a wrap. I bought the Lowe Favorite fishing edition boat from Sandy creek in Breckenridge (well what used to be Sandy creek). That is how the boat came. I’m in no way associated with favorite it’s just the way the boat comes when purchased. Like the ranger nascar edition boat. Pretty soon it will just be all black because the stickers are scratching off from all the salt cedars.
Makes sense, how do you like it?
I am considering adding a tin rig to the fleet
Posted By: Theroofingguy
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 03:03 AM
So dumb question… if I was looking to buy a 12” screen live unit, who gives the best bang for the buck?
Posted By: tmd11111
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 03:07 AM
So dumb question… if I was looking to buy a 12” screen live unit, who gives the best bang for the buck?
Garmin 1222 GPSmap non touch $1899 or if going Lowrance the 12" Carbon that BPS has on sale for $1499.
Posted By: Douglas J
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 03:10 AM
So dumb question… if I was looking to buy a 12” screen live unit, who gives the best bang for the buck?
Garmin 1222 GPSmap non touch $1899
I had a 1222 on my Erya and now on my new Cat I went with 1022. I chose the 1022 because it fit under my cover and was less bulky on the bow of my boat. But I kind of wished I would have went with the 1222. Bigger is better
Posted By: J.H.S.
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 03:21 AM
For me it’s great. I live shallow most of the year and tend to get into some gnarly stuff. It’s 19’10 so it actually handles rough water pretty decent. It’s got a 150 4 stroke on the back so you won’t be winning any races but it goes plenty fast enough. The best thing about it is the fishing deck. It’s huge. You sacrifice on storage but the fishing room can’t be beat. I think tin rigs have come along way and with the gas prices jetting up like they have been, it saves money both pulling and operating. I very much have enjoyed fishing out of it.
Posted By: jiggmann
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 03:47 AM
To me it sounds like it takes more skill and ability to catch a DD using FFS than it does without it. Without it, it's blind luck. From what it sounds like, utilizing FFS is a real learned skill. If you're not into it, that's completely fine, I just don't see how it cheapens it. Anyone can throw a lure in the water and happen to catch a DD. Not everyone is skilled enough in FFS to utilize it to catch a DD. To each their own.
Not to mention boat control in 20mph wind boat drifts presenting your lure to the fish where it gets a reaction way more to it than seeing the fish and throwing your bait to it and catching it! These guys that are doing it on a regular basis skill level is off the charts it’s not easy
Posted By: ogles824 (aka Lakewaydr50)
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 03:05 PM
My opinion? I'll be running some sort of "Live" system on my rig; don't know what that will be yet, but it will be done mainly because of tournament fishing. If I weren't going in the tournament direction probably not. If I were a guide or did a ton of crappie fishing, I'd have it for those situations as well. Just to go out and enjoy nature or a day away from everything and everybody; in my opinion, having something like this on your boat would turn a day of enjoyment into a day of work, defeating the whole purpose for being out there.
Posted By: B.K.S.
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 03:18 PM
Game changer? Yes for some, just like SI, Power Poles, Spot Lock & ect………. Me no, I just don’t fish that way an I’m not going to. I like to bank run, bladed jig I call a Stutter Bug, square bill, flip, throw a jig or a spinner bait, that’s my thing. If I “luck” into a dd, as someone said doing that then great, been trying 45 years I guess I’ll stay with it. I’m also not scared to fish against anyone using that, my thought is I hope the majority are, it leaves my spots less crowded! Mi Dos Centavos!
Posted By: bockscar
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 04:04 PM
I wasn’t gassing up anything. Out of the two 360 would fit me better than FFS. Doesn’t mean I’m going out to buy it. I live less than 6 feet 98% of the year so honestly my biggest tool is my trolling motor and lithiums. I’m a lousy offshore angler.
Same here! But im slowly talking myself into live! LOL nice rig and truck bud...just scrape off those logos! Tin Rigs are the way to go if you fish shallow...no other way IMO. Unless youre a pro of course and get a new boat yearly!
Posted By: J.H.S.
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 05:17 PM
I wasn’t gassing up anything. Out of the two 360 would fit me better than FFS. Doesn’t mean I’m going out to buy it. I live less than 6 feet 98% of the year so honestly my biggest tool is my trolling motor and lithiums. I’m a lousy offshore angler.
Same here! But im slowly talking myself into live! LOL nice rig and truck bud...just scrape off those logos! Tin Rigs are the way to go if you fish shallow...no other way IMO. Unless youre a pro of course and get a new boat yearly!
Lol living out here in the land of the salt cedar has pretty well taken care of the boat stickers. Won’t be long and I’ll just be a black aluminum boat running down the lake.
Posted By: Theroofingguy
Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history? - 02/26/22 07:02 PM
User friendly and I know the more you use it the better you get but cost, user friendly and best bang for the buck. Mind you I’ve been a Humminbird guy for a while and I see nothing mentioned about mega live? Out of the three is humminbird better for the 360? Or if you had to choose the live or go 360 which one would you prefer and why?