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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:04 PM
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Yankee_Bass
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Yes, but only because a few have figured out how to search for fish and who had already understood the seasonal movements of Bass. It's been in use for awhile.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:20 PM
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cephusjoe
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I choose not to buy it. I’m not a hater by any means but I go fishing to get away from screens. I remember when using a camera was against the rules in most tournaments.
Spot lock has my vote
Mcurtain county okie
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:20 PM
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J.P. Greeson
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There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish. Maybe I am misreading what you are saying. Are you saying you don't think any of these fish being caught with live/active type electronics should qualify for lake records? As long as they are not snagged, why wouldn't they qualify?
The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the worse the problem, the longer the trip should be. --John Gierach
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:36 PM
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bassnman
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It will (already has) change tournament outcomes. For serious tournament guys especially it will be a game changer. I am on old guy that still calls my HDS Lives depth finders. I bought Active Target and will try it out but I will never spend all day looking for a fish. I like fishing too much. I fish long and hard but its relaxing too. I suspect there are many like me. Spot Lock was the game changer for me.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:36 PM
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tmd11111
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There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish. Why not? Why stop at livescope, how about 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass and a map. Or how about fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks. Sound foolish, then so does your comment.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:40 PM
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AdvTX
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I’m saying everyone should have fun with this stuff if they want to but as far as records go they should have an asterisk or a complete separate set of records. The technology will only get better and a lot of records will fall. Imagine some guy has been fishing a small lake for 20 years and he’s stick and finally caught a 12 JJ hears about it and catches a 14 there the following week…..
I guess I’m way to old school for this stuff lol
The day after catching a lot of fish is still a good day.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:41 PM
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ezbassin
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There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish. Why not? Why stop at livescope, how about 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass and a map. Or how about fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks. Sound foolish, then so does your comment. I agree. Why go back in time. If you are one of those, get you a canoe, a paddle and a 1967 3 on the tree, 6 cylinder truck to throw it in the back of and go fishing.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:42 PM
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ezbassin
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I have active target on my boat and like it but I like my T/M spot lock feature even better. Third would be the ladder that I added to the front of my trailer so now I don't have to climb in the boat from the side using the fenders. Too old for that any more.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:50 PM
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ezbassin
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There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish. So any fish spotted with electronics as far back as a flasher and caught should not be recognized according to you. correct, because after all you did see the fish as a blip on the flasher so you know it is there.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:53 PM
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june-bug
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There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish. Why not? Why stop at livescope, how about 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass and a map. Or how about fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks. Sound foolish, then so does your comment. Can you troll around and look for, find and then study a 15lb bass's behavior that's suspended out in the middle of the lake that you would have otherwise never known was there and then play with her long enough until you finally get her to bite using 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass, a map, fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks? No you can't.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:56 PM
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bsbeantx
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Yeah but the question is where do you draw the line on technology vs sportsmanship for fair sport? The next gen live sonar could present a live 3d model rendering that even provides estimated size/weight. Larger area scans with picture like detail, even the most novice will be able to interpret the data like a pro. Hell you can see a baby’s face these days before its born so I see this evolving into more quickly.
To pick the right lure and shake it in front of a fish that you know is there doesn’t take near as much skill. There may be a learning curve today however that will end and soon this industry will have to face the ethics of live imaging.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:56 PM
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Dr JL
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 10:59 PM
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tmd11111
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There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish. Why not? Why stop at livescope, how about 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass and a map. Or how about fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks. Sound foolish, then so does your comment. Can you troll around and look for, find and then study a 15lb bass's behavior that's suspended out in the middle of the lake that you would have otherwise never known was there and then play with her long enough until you finally get her to bite using 2d sonar, gps, a flasher, paper graph, compass, a map, fluorocarbon line, graphite rods, chemically sharpened hooks? No you can't. You're right, what was I thinking. I totally forgot the Color-C-Lecor.
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 11:02 PM
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Douglas J
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There’s no way anyone can honestly say any scoped fish should be recognized as lake records or top 50 fish. Maybe I am misreading what you are saying. Are you saying you don't think any of these fish being caught with live/active type electronics should qualify for lake records? As long as they are not snagged, why wouldn't they qualify? Because he's a purist? If so, I hope his fishing consists of swimming with the fish and taking them by spear which he hand carved from a branch.
#MFGA
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Re: Curious...is Livescope Technology the biggest game changer in recent history?
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02/24/22 11:12 PM
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Frank the Tank
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