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Complete kill off and reseed
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01/08/22 03:39 AM
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My yard is a mixture of what I call [censored]. I don’t even know what all is in it. I do know it has a lot of clover it looks like. I just want to kill it all 100%, till it up, and reseed. I’ve put seed down before though and can’t say anything ever grew. Wondering if it was because the ground is too hard and it wasn’t covered.
Anyone ever do this?
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/08/22 05:08 PM
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a few ?'s How are you going to water? what kind of grass? how big is your yard? are you going diy or hiring someone? kill off and reseed is a ton of work to do it right.
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/08/22 07:17 PM
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Sprinklers on a hose end with timers. I have free water with no real restrictions and can thoroughly water it in so that’s no issue. I don’t know what kind of grass to use. All I really care about is even color, texture, and growth rate over the whole lawn. Right now I have none of those three. I’m in a rental unit so I’m not looking for yard of the month but honestly, that wouldn’t be hard to achieve where I live.  Yard size all around is about 12,000 square feet. Only 600 gets any significant shade from one tree. Doing it myself but I have access to a bobcat with a tiller attachment. I’m thinking spray the [censored] out of it with Roundup or something like it to completely kill everything. Wait a week and respray anything that comes up. Do that one more time. Then till the top 3-4 inches, level it out, seed heavily with a starter fertilizer and rake it in.
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/08/22 07:53 PM
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before you spend all that money, i would apply a good herbicide. and fertilize every month in 4 or 5 months. you will probably like the results. ive seen alot of yards go from bad to good in 4 months
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/09/22 12:12 AM
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Sprinklers on a hose end with timers. I have free water with no real restrictions and can thoroughly water it in so that’s no issue. I don’t know what kind of grass to use. All I really care about is even color, texture, and growth rate over the whole lawn. Right now I have none of those three. I’m in a rental unit so I’m not looking for yard of the month but honestly, that wouldn’t be hard to achieve where I live.  Yard size all around is about 12,000 square feet. Only 600 gets any significant shade from one tree. Doing it myself but I have access to a bobcat with a tiller attachment. I’m thinking spray the [censored] out of it with Roundup or something like it to completely kill everything. Wait a week and respray anything that comes up. Do that one more time. Then till the top 3-4 inches, level it out, seed heavily with a starter fertilizer and rake it in. i think you need to wait 6 weeks after applying Round Up should be perfect
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/09/22 12:55 AM
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If you’re renting and are not going to be there for at least two years minimum I don’t think you would ever reap the rewards.
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/10/22 05:51 PM
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before you spend all that money, i would apply a good herbicide. and fertilize every month in 4 or 5 months. you will probably like the results. ive seen alot of yards go from bad to good in 4 months This is the route I would go too. I would be willing to bet common bermuda in there with all the salad mix. Should be able to ID it even if it's dormant. That would be the target grass I would be looking to make my dominate turf. Soil test, quality herbicides(pre and post emergent) fertilizer and mow the hell out of it. No doubt you could have it looking good in 4 months or less.
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/12/22 02:24 PM
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before you spend all that money, i would apply a good herbicide. and fertilize every month in 4 or 5 months. you will probably like the results. ive seen alot of yards go from bad to good in 4 months This is the route I would go too. I would be willing to bet common bermuda in there with all the salad mix. Should be able to ID it even if it's dormant. That would be the target grass I would be looking to make my dominate turf. Soil test, quality herbicides(pre and post emergent) fertilizer and mow the hell out of it. No doubt you could have it looking good in 4 months or less. I like the way y’all think. I always tell people you can throw a hula hoop randomly down in your lawn and it has a sprig of Bermuda in it then you can spray and have nicer lawn faster than trying to seed
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/12/22 04:05 PM
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here's a funny observation on grass. my son's in-laws bought a trampoline for the grand daughter. placed it out in the backyard and me and the son had talked behind the scene that it was going to kill his grass. well, lately the only green grass in his yard is growing under the trampoline. how's that possible? 
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/14/22 04:02 PM
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I have too much bare dirt. If anything was gonna spread out it would have done it already.
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/14/22 04:58 PM
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I have too much bare dirt. If anything was gonna spread out it would have done it already. Not necessarily. Neglected lawns look just like that. Neglected. Soil test will tell you where you're lacking and be able to dial in your NPK. Without one and if you are in the Georgetown area. Most likely a 3-1-2 like a 15-5-10 will probably be your best bet. You will see a drastic improvement if you hammer down on fert. Once you start to get some fill in and thick bermuda you can get a pro plugger off Amazon for $40.00 you can pull plugs from the thick grass and plug it into the bare areas. Easy to use and work really well. If you're dead set on the kill off, till, and reseed. You can do it. 2 apps of 41% gly will kill off just about everything. But the common bermuda that is there will survive those app and come back. So when you seed with whatever type of bermuda, you're going to end up with a couple different mixes of common. So your color difference might be a bit splotchy. For most people it's no big deal. Good thing about Gly is you can spray it and seed the next day. Looking at seed prices for something like Arden, Rio or Riveira. You're looking at about $500 for 12k square feet just for the seed.
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/15/22 02:16 AM
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Here ya go Tommar. Matt does it in 45 days. This is a good watch. Now spread that out over your 6-7 month growth season. You can take it more easy and rock it. Being able to run a backpack or push sprayer is key though for herbicides. Pre emergent, fungicides and others are much cheaper sprayed. And work much better too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DXg5WI7IUs
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/16/22 04:22 PM
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Nice video, Derek, but how many chemicals did he use and how much money would that cost? Crazy to me but that guy is a professional so worth it to him I guess.
The lawn I’m wanting to do is at Falcon Lake, not Georgetown.
Where can I get a soil test and how much it that? The soil is pretty sandy I think but it get soft and spongy when I water it daily.
I’ll take photos next week to show y’all what I’m up against.
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/17/22 04:11 PM
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After fighting this front yard for the last two years at the new house, has me wanting to do a full Control, ALT, and Delete on it. Luckily its only 45'x30'
Had pretty good luck with the St Augustine this year taking over 1/2 of it, but It still looks like holy hell no mater what i've done.
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Re: Complete kill off and reseed
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01/17/22 09:20 PM
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Nice video, Derek, but how many chemicals did he use and how much money would that cost? Crazy to me but that guy is a professional so worth it to him I guess.
The lawn I’m wanting to do is at Falcon Lake, not Georgetown.
Where can I get a soil test and how much it that? The soil is pretty sandy I think but it get soft and spongy when I water it daily.
I’ll take photos next week to show y’all what I’m up against. Yea I don't expect you to run out and find Monument and Tribute lol. I was giving you an example of what looks horrible and be turned around to look good if you take the time. Lot's of was to do it. That's why I mentioned doing it over a full growing season. Decrease weed pressure, increase nutrient availability, Watering daily like you mention is not a good idea. That could/will increase disease pressure which is going to add to your current list of problems. Get some good pics and let's take it from there. If you can get some good pics of the weeds, and if you do see some dense patches of what you believe is the turf get some close up pics so we can ID it.
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