Has toledo had high water levels ? If so, this kills grass.

It did but it was dropped immediately. I saw the video of them spraying all the hay grass in Indian Mounds. I’m sure tpwd will tell us their spraying has nothing to do with the grass disappearing but I’m not buying it. The hay grass is gone. The lily pads are gone. And I haven’t seen a piece of hydrilla in my last four or five trips.

Yup

This almost like the Democratic agenda . Spray the grass and then try to tell you it was something different . Build back better at its finest !

Awful hard to believe the spraying had nothing to do with it

If you read the entire article, it does mention losing some grass to "over spray" from the Salvinia treatment. It also stated that TPWD outsources that spraying to a contractor. Likely the lowest bidder and we all know how that goes. I would suggest at the very least TPWD exercise some better quality control on their spraying projects.

I really belive this is the case. The spraying effected the grass, that was easy to see if you were on the lake. It seems like the spraying could have hurt the grass and the floods just did it in. Then spraying continued and still continues. I will never be convinced that spraying these chemicals in our water is a good thing, it isnt

I don't trust TPWD and Todd as far I could throw them. Everytime they interject on a lake with grass the lake goes to [censored]. Even lakes that don't ever flood.

Good luck with that grass ever coming back!

There was talk about the chemicals used in the clear cuts around the lake for logging having an effect also on the grass

Having personally witnessed them spraying hydrilla and hay grass with ZERO salvinia in the area I absolutely believe those “contractors” sprayed way more than they were supposed to. Even saw them spraying reeds????

I'm going to throw this out, kinda of left field but it actually makes some sense, would love to hear someone that knows more on the subject comment. This comes from Kelly Jordan when we spent a day together last year. He says that in the late 90's, 1998 I believe, that the type of broad leaf herbicides that farmers can use changed. I can't remember if he said it was regulated by the EPA, or the Department of Agriculture. But he believes that when they changed the formulas that could be used, and subsequently were used by farmers, that was the beginning of the decline due to runoff of those herbicides into our creeks, rivers and lakes. The timing makes sense as that in my mind is about when we started seeing the decline, but I have done absolutely zero fact checking on this nor do I believe Kelly had, just something he had heard and shared.

I have similar thoughts about golden algea and fertilizer run off from certain high agricultural areas. You only see it in 1 area of state and the 2 chains that drain from it. But I didnt even stay in a holiday inn last night.

Broadleaf herbicides generally do not kill grass by design. There is not a lot of farming done in the Sabine watershed. If you think its herbicide spraying how does the overspray go up stream. Think Eastman in Longview.