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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: grout-scout]
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12/20/21 12:32 AM
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bockscar
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Are you as mad at TPW, the sharelunker program, Concho and Elm Creek as you are muligan and JJ?
I know facts dont matter when it comes to hating on anyone....
but watch the Miliken videos and he doesnt mention Ivie by name in the first few videos. Josh Jones doesnt really throw around waypoints either and really he isnt extremely active on socials from what ive seen in the year or so ive followed him. I had no idea the most recent fish he posted on facebook was caught at Ivie....until I saw the Concho facebook post that said it was caught at Ivie. JJ and Muligan arent the ones that solely blew the lid off it....people just connected enough dots....and even though they wont admit it and might refuse to understand it, im sure the locals didnt help that (spoiler alert they didnt help the cause and their negativity was a big reason I went because i knew it was fishing good for how salty (some of) the locals were).
Say what you want about JJ and Mulligan....they werent putting Ivie on blast. TPW, the sharelunker page, concho and elm creek allll spilled the beans way before JJ and MF did. Social media just did what social media does....and exposed itself. Locals were bitching all over socials, and they themselves really helped blow the lid off it. The salty sallys probably refuse to accept it....but they did a ton when it comes to blowing the lid off that lake.
Hey monkey lips, where did I hate on anyone. I offered a reason as to why people don’t like Jones or Milliken. Maybe if you didn’t live in the third world country known as El Paso, you’d understand. Of course you can’t comprehend it, nobody purposely goes to El Paso.
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: grout-scout]
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12/20/21 01:10 AM
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SC-001
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It’s not hate with Jones, it’s hate with the publicity that he (and Milliken) brought/bring to the lake. I don’t fish Ivie, but I can relate to a lake being publicized across the country. Nobody wants their lake to be packed. This
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: MagFluker]
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12/20/21 02:50 AM
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Used2fish
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With this bunch if you refuse to fluff JJ you’re a “hater” it’s like a cliche thing to say.
Last edited by Used2fish; 12/20/21 02:49 PM.
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: MagFluker]
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12/20/21 03:00 AM
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J.H.S.
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Josh Jones was never the issue as far as I was concerned. By all accounts he seems to be a decent dude. It was the other group of honyoks that were acting a fool by drinking and cursing and just acting stupid on their videos. I believe their exact words were something like “single handedly put Ivie on the map”. Apparently they never fished the last in the late 90’s and early 2000’s. Jones is doing something 99.9% of us can’t and won’t do. He is catching one or two fish a day and they are giants. That’s his thing and he is good. It doesn’t translate to tournament fishing and that’s okay. Also the guy is a bit of a genius if he can coax some of y’all into paying a grand to go out with him. I’d never fault a guy for making money doing what he loves.
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: SC-001]
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12/20/21 03:09 AM
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Chasin Hogs
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It’s not hate with Jones, it’s hate with the publicity that he (and Milliken) brought/bring to the lake. I don’t fish Ivie, but I can relate to a lake being publicized across the country. Nobody wants their lake to be packed. This I get it. Yall couldn't catch a monster before imagine what yall will do with more pressure.
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: Chasin Hogs]
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12/20/21 03:12 AM
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grout-scout
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It’s not hate with Jones, it’s hate with the publicity that he (and Milliken) brought/bring to the lake. I don’t fish Ivie, but I can relate to a lake being publicized across the country. Nobody wants their lake to be packed. This I get it. Yall couldn't catch a monster before imagine what yall will do with more pressure. Another one who can’t read, apparently you don’t get anything. Try re-reading what I wrote.
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Re: Josh Jones
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12/20/21 03:24 AM
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KnotTexan
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Josh Jones was never the issue as far as I was concerned. By all accounts he seems to be a decent dude. It was the other group of honyoks that were acting a fool by drinking and cursing and just acting stupid on their videos. I believe their exact words were something like “single handedly put Ivie on the map”. Apparently they never fished the last in the late 90’s and early 2000’s. Jones is doing something 99.9% of us can’t and won’t do. He is catching one or two fish a day and they are giants. That’s his thing and he is good. It doesn’t translate to tournament fishing and that’s okay. Also the guy is a bit of a genius if he can coax some of y’all into paying a grand to go out with him. I’d never fault a guy for making money doing what he loves.
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: J.H.S.]
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12/20/21 03:31 AM
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Darin S.
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Josh Jones was never the issue as far as I was concerned. By all accounts he seems to be a decent dude. It was the other group of honyoks that were acting a fool by drinking and cursing and just acting stupid on their videos. I believe their exact words were something like “single handedly put Ivie on the map”. Apparently they never fished the last in the late 90’s and early 2000’s. Jones is doing something 99.9% of us can’t and won’t do. He is catching one or two fish a day and they are giants. That’s his thing and he is good. It doesn’t translate to tournament fishing and that’s okay. Also the guy is a bit of a genius if he can coax some of y’all into paying a grand to go out with him. I’d never fault a guy for making money doing what he loves. Spot on.
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: MagFluker]
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12/20/21 01:02 PM
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Jpurdue
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It's not much of a secret what he's doing yet there's really not anyone replicating it. There's a reason for that, it's super hard.
It's extremely hard to have the patience to wander around the lake for hours on end looking for a big fish. Its hard to be able to tell that you are looking at a big bass and not a small bass or a carp etc... If you do find the fish it's hard to have the hand-eye-foot control to hold the boat/trolling motor where you need it to be to see a fish and your lure in the small 20 degree cone angle of the live scope so you can see what's happening. Then you have to avoid spooking the fish. Then you have to make a good cast and get the fish to bite. Then you have to land the beast.
Most of us will never be able to do it. It's akin to hitting a major league pitch in my mind. It looks easy until you stand in the batters box and realize just how fast a 96 mph fastball really is. Practice all you want, but the best you can hope for is a bunt.
"Bragging may not bring happiness, but no man having caught a large fish goes home through an alley." -A.L. www.LunkerLore.com
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: MagFluker]
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12/20/21 03:05 PM
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Frank the Tank
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To me, there is a 180 difference between JJ & Millie-Doosh. JJ is a class act, Millie is...... well ...... we all know what Millie is.
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: Frank the Tank]
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12/20/21 04:21 PM
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bockscar
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To me, there is a 180 difference between JJ & Millie-Doosh. JJ is a class act, Millie is...... well ...... we all know what Millie is. JJ caught a lot of strays. Dudes basically a guide....not a social media star like Miliken. They just have a similar group of acquaintances and ended up fishing together because of it last winter. Im not a big fan of Miliken because he does seem...abrasive, but JJ seems like a solid guy from his socials. Posts his family as much as he does fishing stuff. Doesnt mention or brag that hes charging and getting a fee to guide most dont and cant get. Doesnt really shove sponsors down your throat (but that might change since hes with lowrance now LOL) either. Poor bastards catching strays just because he's on em.........often!
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: Used2fish]
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12/20/21 04:28 PM
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With this bunch if you refuse to fluff JJ you’re a “hater” it’s like a cliche thing to say. Amen......... I think the most off putting deal is the end of day stringer pics and the crowd that thinks that is the "cool" thing to do. Sure catch a big fish, take some photos for your social media, don't slap it on the belly just let it go.
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: MagFluker]
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12/20/21 06:37 PM
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Okie Poke
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I believe that JJ and Milliken and all those trophy hunters should be thanked for helping out the local economy around OH Ivie. There are folks down there thriving instead of suffering. Look at it that way.....or you can look at it like you suck at big fish hunting. The latter comes with an attitude, though, so pick the first one and you'll feel better.
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Re: Josh Jones
[Re: MagFluker]
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12/20/21 08:31 PM
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SkeeterRonnie
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Absolutely zero respect for Milli Vanilli! JJ is the real deal!
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Re: Josh Jones
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12/21/21 12:30 AM
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the skipper
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Josh Jones was never the issue as far as I was concerned. By all accounts he seems to be a decent dude. It was the other group of honyoks that were acting a fool by drinking and cursing and just acting stupid on their videos. I believe their exact words were something like “single handedly put Ivie on the map”. Apparently they never fished the last in the late 90’s and early 2000’s. Jones is doing something 99.9% of us can’t and won’t do. He is catching one or two fish a day and they are giants. That’s his thing and he is good. It doesn’t translate to tournament fishing and that’s okay. Also the guy is a bit of a genius if he can coax some of y’all into paying a grand to go out with him. I’d never fault a guy for making money doing what he loves. I agree with this.
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