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Re: Aluminum boats [Re: Slicefixer] #14180679 11/03/21 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Slicefixer
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Funny how people with tin rigs are always trying to justify their purchase and compare it to a glass boat.


This is generally correct...lol


.........Oooooorrrrr.....

Maybe glass rig owners are having a tough time accepting that SOME Al rigs might have caught up with many of their beloved gold plated and diamond encrusted glass rigs. And, as glass has always been considered the best and finest option, the gold standard, that it's inevitable that the glass vs tin is the appropriate comparison. Also, any comparison of a high end Al to glass brings out some glass owners to stomp and skoff off at the insult regarding the comparison.

It's funny, I don't see very many glass threads where tin owners interject themselves and are commenting on their rigs.

However, both here and on BBC, it seems to be Ithe other way around.... in my opinion anyway. Start a thread about a high end Al boat and it's almost inevitable that a few glass owners will jump in and denigrate the boat in question and/or Al boats in general....all in a thread started regarding an Al rig......

Don't get me wrong, I think the finest bass boat currently manufactured is a Basscat. Glass boats, many of them anyway, are most probably the best option for most missions....more comfortable, driest, etc, but, it's certainly not the 100% lock that it was in the past.

The original post asked for input between glass and aluminum. You seem a little upset.

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Originally Posted by rj74955
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Originally Posted by tmd11111
Funny how people with tin rigs are always trying to justify their purchase and compare it to a glass boat.


This is generally correct...lol


.........Oooooorrrrr.....

Maybe glass rig owners are having a tough time accepting that SOME Al rigs might have caught up with many of their beloved gold plated and diamond encrusted glass rigs. And, as glass has always been considered the best and finest option, the gold standard, that it's inevitable that the glass vs tin is the appropriate comparison. Also, any comparison of a high end Al to glass brings out some glass owners to stomp and skoff off at the insult regarding the comparison.

It's funny, I don't see very many glass threads where tin owners interject themselves and are commenting on their rigs.

However, both here and on BBC, it seems to be Ithe other way around.... in my opinion anyway. Start a thread about a high end Al boat and it's almost inevitable that a few glass owners will jump in and denigrate the boat in question and/or Al boats in general....all in a thread started regarding an Al rig......

Don't get me wrong, I think the finest bass boat currently manufactured is a Basscat. Glass boats, many of them anyway, are most probably the best option for most missions....more comfortable, driest, etc, but, it's certainly not the 100% lock that it was in the past.

The original post asked for input between glass and aluminum. You seem a little upset.


Naw, not at all....hehehe.... "tired" is more appropriate.

Just a bit tired of glass boat aficionados posting things dissing tin boats like....."Lund isn't a bass boat"..... something that a simple and quick search would show to be false.....

Or......

(paraphrasing)"I've ridden in em' all and there is no comparison between the ride of a tin boat and a glass boat"......etc etc etc...

These type of statements (and many, many similar) are made with very few being countered.....so I did.

In regards to Lund, and I don't own one nor have I ever, there are a couple of recent/current threads on another site. In these threads several actual owners of Lund bass boats, and whom had previously owned high end glass boats, all stated their Lund was equal to, or superior to, their glass boat experiences.

Meanwhile, here come glass owners to denigrate a boat they admit (usually once pressed) they've never owned, ridden in. nor, in some cases, ever seen. The same thing happened in this thread....

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Re: Aluminum boats [Re: IKELEVI] #14180768 11/03/21 11:05 PM
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Looks like I ruffled a few feathers

Re: Aluminum boats [Re: IKELEVI] #14180974 11/04/21 02:27 AM
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i've had a " tin " boat for 20 years , 17' 8" Tracker . Bought it new for $21K with an upgraded motor ( 2002 , 115HP Merc , fuel injected --- which I found is actually a Yamaha upper unit with a Merc lower unit ) .
It has been used quite a bit , not much in rough water/weather just because I prefer not to fish in that . It's sit's outside , with a cover over all the time . Haven't spent any money on the boat itself and it's in great shape I replaced the carpet myself last year , new graphs , new TM , other than that ---- nothing . It's tough in wind without a spot lock trolling motor to " slow " fish and it's probably harder to use a trolling motor just because it's moves in the wind too easy .
Gary Dobbins rode in a 2080 last year and was very impressed ---- and he's probably been in most glass boats as a comparison . As a material itself , I prefer aluminum VS fiberglass and I would buy a high end Tin with spot lock before I would buy glass .

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Re: Aluminum boats [Re: IKELEVI] #14181004 11/04/21 03:22 AM
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I have owned glass and tin. They both have there plus and minuses. Glass boats are obviously the higher end boat. But you sure pay for that. And that’s ok. I can get places in a tin boat that no glass boat can go because the glass boat is bigger and heavy. Which makes it a plus in high wind or on big water. But geeze as long as your catching fish. And you can catch fish out of both. So it boils down to price point and features and fishing how you want to fish. The best option is to have both. Most of the pros do have both. And most Pros that are fishing out a tin on tour are shallow water guys. And they can out fish 97 % of the people writing opinions on here.

Not sure why people have to be so snarky when this come up. I sure some one will kick me in the nuts for this post. Lol. That’s ok I will just mark that person as an a-hole and move on.

Lots of great stuff on both fiber and tin boats these days. Happy fishing.

Re: Aluminum boats [Re: IKELEVI] #14181113 11/04/21 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tmd11111
Looks like I ruffled a few feathers


You didn't "ruffle" anything.....you just posted anoooooother ignorant diss of aluminum boats and i, for one, am tiiiiiiired of em.

Do yourself a favor, go ride in all the high end Al boats available today, Express/Avid/Vexus/Gator Trax, and yes, Lund, etc. Then post a detailed critique comparing em to your glass boat. Then at least your comments might have validity and CONTRIBUTE to the conversation vs, well, nothing.....


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Re: Aluminum boats [Re: Walker61] #14181118 11/04/21 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Walker61
I have owned glass and tin. They both have there plus and minuses. Glass boats are obviously the higher end boat. But you sure pay for that. And that’s ok. I can get places in a tin boat that no glass boat can go because the glass boat is bigger and heavy. Which makes it a plus in high wind or on big water. But geeze as long as your catching fish. And you can catch fish out of both. So it boils down to price point and features and fishing how you want to fish. The best option is to have both. Most of the pros do have both. And most Pros that are fishing out a tin on tour are shallow water guys. And they can out fish 97 % of the people writing opinions on here.

Not sure why people have to be so snarky when this come up. I sure some one will kick me in the nuts for this post. Lol. That’s ok I will just mark that person as an a-hole and move on.

Lots of great stuff on both fiber and tin boats these days. Happy fishing.




Agree almost 100%.....

The only comment I think MIGHT be in error is this one.....

"Glass boats are obviously the higher end boat"....

I'm not so sure that it's nearly as obvious as it once was. The Gator Trax boys would certainly take GREAT joy explaining how theirs can run with any glass boat.

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Re: Aluminum boats [Re: Walker61] #14181144 11/04/21 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Walker61
I have owned glass and tin. They both have there plus and minuses. Glass boats are obviously the higher end boat. But you sure pay for that. And that’s ok. I can get places in a tin boat that no glass boat can go because the glass boat is bigger and heavy. Which makes it a plus in high wind or on big water. But geeze as long as your catching fish. And you can catch fish out of both. So it boils down to price point and features and fishing how you want to fish. The best option is to have both. Most of the pros do have both. And most Pros that are fishing out a tin on tour are shallow water guys. And they can out fish 97 % of the people writing opinions on here.

Not sure why people have to be so snarky when this come up. I sure some one will kick me in the nuts for this post. Lol. That’s ok I will just mark that person as an a-hole and move on.

Lots of great stuff on both fiber and tin boats these days. Happy fishing.


I own both also. Each has it's own time and place that it shines. Go with what you like.

Re: Aluminum boats [Re: IKELEVI] #14181159 11/04/21 12:34 PM
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My biggest issue with aluminum is how easily and quickly it moves in the wind. Many people will quickly say "Spot lock has solved this problem!!" but I don't think that's necessarily true. If I'm fishing shallow and catch a fish then need to re-rig and grab a bag out of a storage compartment for a new plastic, that only takes 10-30 seconds. In that amount of time an aluminum rig could move 10-20 yards if the winds were kicking! A glass rig stays put better.

My first rig was a tin rig and after running it for 4 years then switching to glass, I recommend glass, unless you're planning on fishing backwaters and creeks/rivers and/or fish shallow 99% of the time.


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It's pretty clear the gap between the two has closed quite a bit. Go with whatever fits in your budget and more importantly your garage!


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Re: Aluminum boats [Re: Slicefixer] #14181173 11/04/21 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Slicefixer
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Looks like I ruffled a few feathers


You didn't "ruffle" anything.....you just posted anoooooother ignorant diss of aluminum boats and i, for one, am tiiiiiiired of em.

Do yourself a favor, go ride in all the high end Al boats available today, Express/Avid/Vexus/Gator Trax, and yes, Lund, etc. Then post a detailed critique comparing em to your glass boat. Then at least your comments might have validity and CONTRIBUTE to the conversation vs, well, nothing.....


Owned an Xpress years ago, also rode in and fished out of too many to list. Pretty much been around boats my whole life and I ain't no spring chicken. Never said I didn't like tin boats. Love em and they have their place. But I still stand by my comment that too many tin rig owners think they ride and handle just as well as a glass boat.

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Originally Posted by tmd11111
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Looks like I ruffled a few feathers


You didn't "ruffle" anything.....you just posted anoooooother ignorant diss of aluminum boats and i, for one, am tiiiiiiired of em.

Do yourself a favor, go ride in all the high end Al boats available today, Express/Avid/Vexus/Gator Trax, and yes, Lund, etc. Then post a detailed critique comparing em to your glass boat. Then at least your comments might have validity and CONTRIBUTE to the conversation vs, well, nothing.....


Owned an Xpress years ago, also rode in and fished out of too many to list. Pretty much been around boats my whole life and I ain't no spring chicken. Never said I didn't like tin boats. Love em and they have their place. But I still stand by my comment that too many tin rig owners think they ride and handle just as well as a glass boat.


Sir, respectfully, you have no idea what you're talking about. Once you've ridden in the latest Lund, Gator Trax, and yes, an Xpress then your opinion would have some validity. There is NO comparison between an Xpress from "years ago" and the latest iteration X21.

Check out Poche's GTrax and tell me that's the same boat as an old Xpress.....

https://youtu.be/t8aeE6GIZdM

Btw, I've also been around boats all my life.....over 5 decades to date.

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Dunkin running his Xpress X21 on the Great Lakes.....

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These are aluminum boats, but, they're a long, long, looooong way from a flat bottom hull with a console and a casting deck.

Btw, I have 2 original Trackers with Merc 50's and they ARE a loooooooong way from a glass boat. Even then they have their place and can go places you can't get to in glass, nor would I try to do so.

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